- Jul 25, 2017
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Yeah, but read what I wrote in that particular post, look at her picture, then imagine her speaking those words in a deep, guttural, growling voice...Do you realize that no matter what you write, it is simply impossible to understand the essence of what is written without being distracted by Jamie’s magnificent figure in your signature?
- Dec 24, 2018
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Oh no - my point is S2E1 will be a patreon/ss release, until S2E5, at which point it will be STeam Season 2 release. Potentially Ocean will do an early access style thing with steam, as that helps get awayfrom patreo hiccups, but I guess we have to see how WiaB's early access goes from the next release. The standard thing on Steam would be to only release the full seasons - that was also the plan with WiaB until the patreon purge. So we'll see how S2 gets delivered, but I'd expect full seasons on steam, not chapters.
Well, I, for one, waited until I could actually play the game before returning to this thread, so ya don't speak for me.
- Jun 15, 2022
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I wonder if this has always been the case in this thread, I mean this war. I've only been here for two years and firstly played SG at 2023 beginning.
- Jun 2, 2022
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That's makes sense
. That way Ocean won't need to update both Patreon and steam parallel.
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I'm actually pretty satisfied with the latest version - it's even better than the "Chapter 5 Beta". The new scenes add some nice depth to the setting, though the lighting might be a tad dark. But hey, it kinda fits the overall mood of the story, so I'm not sweating it.
Even the fancy UI, which I usually don't pay much attention to (no offense to the devs, I just have some beef with frontend folks), is well-executed. If I hadn't already played SG a bunch of times, I'd be even more hyped about this update/release.
As for the lack of sex scenes, it's no biggie for me. I'm all for a solid, well-written story over a quick thrill. And when the characters are fleshed out enough to make you care about them, the eventual sex scenes become even more satisfying.
Anyway, I'm gonna dive back into the game before I get bombarded with angry emojis and slippers for being too optimistic
Even the fancy UI, which I usually don't pay much attention to (no offense to the devs, I just have some beef with frontend folks
), is well-executed. If I hadn't already played SG a bunch of times, I'd be even more hyped about this update/release.As for the lack of sex scenes, it's no biggie for me. I'm all for a solid, well-written story over a quick thrill. And when the characters are fleshed out enough to make you care about them, the eventual sex scenes become even more satisfying.
Anyway, I'm gonna dive back into the game before I get bombarded with angry emojis and slippers for being too optimistic
- Dec 24, 2018
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Precisely. Chapter updates are typically meant to be the WIP, not the finished product. The season breaks the ambitious size into manageable chunks. Yes, I have games on Steam over 100GB, but no I do not want AVN's that size, with every chapter as a DLC.That's makes sense
Also, to go through the time consuming steam approval for each and every DLC update for a new chapter - imagine this thread every release. Not for the faint of heart. I mean, any dev could try to go tame on the base game and upload DLC that's higher than the rating etc. The fewer times Ocean needs to go through that approval process, the better.
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I don't fully recall. I think the real hate started the moment Ch 1 was reworked (so early 2021). I've seen some of those haters (of the changes) complain that Ocean turned the game into a blue-balling slow-burn - yet the first page of this thread (from 2019) mentions the phrase "slow burn" many times in relation to the original release.
- Jun 15, 2022
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> Blue-balling
Just imagine to hate the dev because he doesn't give you opportunity to jerk off on a pixel waifu. Some people need a life.
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This is not at all about people being tired of anything. The point here is that out of the last 15-20 pages so far, there are at most 1-2 page of "negative" comments that can really be taken. There is nothing wrong with legitimate criticism. However, you won't find critical comments that have a particular basis in reality across pages.
Endless and pointless screaming, whining, crying about something that was never in Summer's Gone. Like Ocean a milker, a shit dev, waaaa, waaaa, i want this, i want that, no new content, no sex scenes, etc., etc., etc. For f*cks sake, if someone can't write a fair and credible post, it would be better if they kept the crap to themselves, because no one is interested in that.
The Season 1 target rating was 16+, and it would be very good for everyone to think logically about how that a person would feel if they had previously spent thousands or tens of thousands of dollars/euros on music licenses, and then the owner of the license suddenly announced that sorry, you can no longer use the music in your AVN, and you won't get a cent back? I think in this case Ocean chose the lesser bad thing.
The following seasons target rating is 18+, because the different music contracts. Oh, and there's still the big thing that Summer's Gone is Ocean's AVN, and tell the story the way it he wants to. And as usual, the loudest hysterics against his decisions are those, who didn't support him with a penny before, and who didn't/won't buy the SG S1 when it released.
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It's interesting that WIAB currently has the 'early release' flair on Steam, suggesting that Ocean will update chapters on both Patreon and Steam at the same time (if my understanding of 'early release' is correct)
- Dec 24, 2018
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My understanding from the devlogs has been he's releasing it at Ch3.5, earlier simply to provide a way forward and keep it going. Seeing Zoey, Katie and Ayua's mum being mentioned and the way they're mentioned in SG suggests to me he's pretty committed to keeping WiaB and the flagship story-wise. I've always thought of SG as the fallout of what happened, or the resolution maybe? I also liked the mention of Gefritzel on the notice board 'intelligent snake has escaped' - suggesting the snake survived and was brought to Wollust. Those aren't super spoilers, but I thought they were nice touches.
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This is why there is so much criticism of slow burn. The games should be fairly short, the average length of a jerk-off session of a "customer."
- Jun 15, 2022
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They were short 5 years ago, when updates came out once a month. Updates with 300-400 renders for 10 minutes of gameplay, opened in 720p window. Objectively speaking, it's much better now. Even if they are released rarely, there are 3-4 hours of gameplay with high-quality visuals. VNs like evolved from PS2 to PS5 in several years.
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umm... Season 1 is now targeting 16+, from the start of SG it was AVN "Adult Visual Novel" which is now "Visual Novel". If music license was issue than why pull out some content and some not? That's not bcz of music. Why still some renders are still of previous models and not new one? It's half assed work. And we'll likely get another Update to season1 to fix those issues (more delaying on season 2 ep1? can't say). When Dev gave audience a taste and than pull out it out of their mouth, people will ramble and show negative response, plus it doesn't lessen the effect that the development cycle is trash and not improving. People will try to shit on other things too than just out of emotions even if they don't mean it. I don't know about others as I'm not aware of every single person's reasoning behind the argument but the only thing I have the problem with is development cycle which is 1chapter per year and it's not improving(we'll see season 2).
It is Ocean's Game and he has the right to whether doom it overtime or make immortal overtime. Audience has right to criticize even if they are never pleased and will never be pleased
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- Apr 25, 2020
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If anyone believes that with more money or more people it'll be faster is delusional. Otherwise AAA games would be released in a matter of days by now (they still take 5+ years to make)