VN Ren'Py Abandoned Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[BobTheDuck]

That would be great! Tell you what, make a save where you reject Vic for me but you have to play all the sad parts in which you are reminded that you rejected that adorable, cute, naive little cripple with the puppy eyes and sunshine personality

I still haven't been able to reject her in any playthrough because I feel so damn bad and guilty.

But yeah, it would 100% be amazing if you could reject her and get on the Maja path instead with Vic's blessing

I've done it once, just to see all the choices... it wasn't easy or pleasant to do

 

[AlexFXR]

Secondly I feel like I don't glaze Maja all that much at all. Precisely because we've known for a couple of years that she's been demoted from the LI position. I like her above all other characters but I've made my peace with her side character role a long time ago.

I don't understand at all why developers create characters that can't become LI. The exception might be old or ugly characters.

 

[yossa999]

Those words would actually mean something had I not witnessed 579 changes to SG in the past 5 years. I think Ocean has proved time and time again that a lot of what he says is worthless. What is true today can very well be a mere figment of your imagination tomorrow. Such is the Ocean way.

Spoiler: Ocean

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First of all I only very occasionally "yell" at Maviarab and the random Ocean man juice sipper when they reply to or mention me.

You see, Bob's copium works just perfectly on you!

Secondly I feel like I don't glaze Maja all that much at all. Precisely because we've known for a couple of years that she's been demoted from the LI position. I like her above all other characters but I've made my peace with her side character role a long time ago.

Now if you'll excuse me, I just got home and need to drop a couple of Zara's at the pool, if you catch my drift

Spoiler: Catching the drift

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[jadepaladin]

I have no clue how you're supposed to get a lewd-able scene out of Maja with the way the story is currently presented outside of a non-canon special scene and I absolutely do not want to give Ocean ideas that will distract him from actively working on the story itself.

If it's a one off in the story it feels cheap, hurts Vic whether or not your romance her, and seems out of character for Maja. If Vic is okay with it...there's no way she's ready for something like that yet. If you wait too long to do the scene, it's gonna feel out of place. Reject Vic and have Maja take her place? Maja isn't a LI so that wouldn't make sense either. I just don't know how you'd write one in and make it coherent.

I somewhat agree with Alex. Maja is too attractive to not be a LI. Granted, I don't think all characters should exist for the sake of the MC but it's the same problem Julia had in BARS, she was attractive but off limits being a relative in a non incest game. There would have been almost no pushback if Julia was unattractive or in an existing relationship. Maybe Maja just needs another guy in her life. (I'm gonna get quartered for that).

 

[BeingADikDik]

I have no clue how you're supposed to get a lewd-able scene out of Maja with the way the story is currently presented outside of a non-canon special scene and I absolutely do not want to give Ocean ideas that will distract him from actively working on the story itself.

If it's a one off in the story it feels cheap, hurts Vic whether or not your romance her, and seems out of character for Maja. If Vic is okay with it...there's no way she's ready for something like that yet. If you wait too long to do the scene, it's gonna feel out of place. Reject Vic and have Maja take her place? Maja isn't a LI so that wouldn't make sense either. I just don't know how you'd write one in and make it coherent.

I somewhat agree with Alex. Maja is too attractive to not be a LI. Granted, I don't think all characters should exist for the sake of the MC but it's the same problem Julia had in BARS, she was attractive but off limits being a relative in a non incest game. There would have been almost no pushback if Julia was unattractive or in an existing relationship. Maybe Maja just needs another guy in her life. (I'm gonna get quartered for that).

Maja was originally a LI. She was the fourth(?) female encountered in the game and still has relationship points. Plans change, but there is no doubt she was originally going to be a LI and given the WIAB heritage of SG, the idea of her and Vic sharing is not out of the question.

 

[LHDLLB]

I don't understand at all why developers create characters that can't become LI. The exception might be old or ugly characters.

I like that not every women in the game is a LI and they are beautiful women, it add realism and makes the world feels bigger. Sure it is frustrating that we have a landlady as good looking as Nojiko rotten away with Nick while Miss Marla is a LI but make all the other women ungly seems like a bas idea.

 

[RNasc4444]

I don't understand at all why developers create characters that can't become LI. The exception might be old or ugly characters.

Great side characters can make a world, story or game shine brighter. Same with background characters. They can really add to the depth, complexity and authenticity of a story.

Sure it sucks when you're drawn to one of them and want to know more about them but overall I don't think we should incentivize devs to create less of these or ask them to create games with 127 LI's

 

[Elduriel]

Maja is too attractive to not be a LI.

there are barely any unattractive women in the game though, so that's not saying much. In fact I find it kinda funny, not one fat girl, really? But that's almost typical for AVNs.

 

[RNasc4444]

Spoiler: Ocean

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You see, Bob's copium works just perfectly on you!

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Spoiler: Catching the drift

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This is precisely why I enjoy bantering with you even if you hate my guts
10/10 would banter again!

 

[jadepaladin]

Maja was originally a LI. She was the fourth(?) female encountered in the game and still has relationship points. Plans change, but there is no doubt she was originally going to be a LI and given the WIAB heritage of SG, the idea of her and Vic sharing is not out of the question.

That makes sense. I think I got into SG right before the heavy remake stuff started. I remember it looking a lot more basic and having more music. I still have the OG version of WIAB installed somewhere.

 

[LHDLLB]

there are barely any unattractive women in the game though, so that's not saying much. In fact I find it kinda funny, not one fat girl, really? But that's almost typical for AVNs.

I mean Mila is not fat but she is not skinny either. You mean Lizzo fat or a good chubby girl ?

 

[Elduriel]

I mean Mila is not fat but she is not skinny either. You mean Lizzo fat or a good chubby girl ?

or any kind of ugly girl, show me one from the game coz I can't remember any. And it's def not realistic (it's a game, but whatever)

 

[yossa999]

Maja was originally a LI. She was the fourth(?) female encountered in the game and still has relationship points. Plans change, but there is no doubt she was originally going to be a LI and given the WIAB heritage of SG, the idea of her and Vic sharing is not out of the question.

Damn reaction limit.
Yep, earlier in the cannon versions she was a "friend", now she's a "sister"
And yeah, if there is any sharing, then I think it will only be Vic’s initiative.
Just watching the scene in the therapy center, when Maja talks about how she helped Vic take a bath and how Vic asked her if MC would want to kiss her on a date; what an expression Maja had on her face - she will definitely never betray Vic's trust and will not allow anything to happen between her and MC behind Vic's back.

 

[Enlight432]

 

[LHDLLB]

or any kind of ugly girl, show me one from the game coz I can't remember any. And it's def not realistic (it's a game, but whatever)

I am not fan of Cindy. Is not, but if we are gonna have a unrealistic game better be for too many beautiful characters than for too little. And all the good looking girls fallen in love with the MC. Also beauty is subjective.

Just watching the scene in the therapy center, when Maja talks about how she helped Vic take a bath and how Vic asked her if MC would want to kiss her on a date; what an expression Maja had on her face - she will definitely never betray Vic's trust and will not allow anything to happen between her and MC behind Vic's back.

That is why is strange having a lewd scene with her if she is not a LI. Not saying that there is no way, Ocean seems to have thought one, just saying that I could not think of one. Will be glad to see it when the time arrive.

 

[Maviarab]

First of all I only very occasionally "yell" at Maviarab and the random Ocean man juice sipper when they reply to or mention me.

Lies...you bully me all the damn time

Secondly I feel like I don't glaze Maja all that much at all.

No...but you'd sure like to huh

 

[Deleted member 7609580]

I don't get it that sleeping with Nika is out of Maja's character thing. So far all the facts clearly suggest that she is a total nymphomaniac. From being one of the founders of the free titty movement in college to having 3 boxes of stockings, 4 of corsets, 5 of latex, 7 of sex toys and 8 of BDSM accessories. Right now it's safe for Vik because she doesn't find Nika sexually attractive to her but when that changes it's going to be a tough fight with her crazy sexual urges

100 % Nympho always stays 100 % Nympho

 

[Maviarab]

I don't get it that sleeping with Nika is out of Maja's character thing.

There was obviously quite a lot you didn't get.

I'll let BobTheDuck explain...I can't be assed.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I don't get it that sleeping with Nika is out of Maja's character thing. So far all the facts clearly suggest that she is a total nymphomaniac. From being one of the founders of the free titty movement in college to having 3 boxes of stockings, 4 of corsets, 5 of latex, 7 of sex toys and 8 of BDSM accessories. Right now it's safe for Vik because she doesn't find Nika sexually attractive to her but when that changes it's going to be a tough fight with her crazy sexual urges

100 % Nympho always stays 100 % Nympho

Actually, Maja is all about control. What is her fetish? Shibari. Chances are she likes doing they tying seeing she's always in braids. But think about her box of sin; after all, Maja's got a lot of toys. She KNOWS how to satisfy herself without a dead pocket rocket. She's also creeped out by NIka having used any of it. So she's not a dirty nympho at all. She is (at least so far) depicted as someone who has specific tastes and knows what she wants.

All her interactions with Nika suggest that she's mostly tolerating him for Vic's sake. Keep in mind, Nika has an incredibly dub moment when he starts talking with her the first time, acting like a trenchcoat dude. She's suspicious of him being a creep. But the very next thing for her is Vic being obsessed with this guy, and Maja being responsible to look after Vic. Vic wants Maja to find him, because Vic keeps telling Maja about him. Vic wants all kinds of romantic moments that she fantasizes about that she tells Maja. Maja knows it will break her sisters heart if Maja takes him from her. She's the one in charge of keeping Vic stable/happy/looked after also. So even if she finds Nika attractive, she has to overcome her loyalty to her injured sister.

I can safely say her impression of NIka isn't anywhere near the level that it would overcome her loyalty to Vic.

So, if Ocean plans lewds, it will be a moment of weakness most likely. Instead of her attraction being so high, her will is lowered, by circumstance or alcohol - remember she left Vic with a bottle to loosen the stick up Nika's ass. Or because she's stressed out trying to pay the way of all the medical bills for Vic, and just has a moment of weakness. That is the only way I can see it happening, and then, most likely only if you reject Vic's date - Maja is HELPING Vic plan her date.

Horniness isn't the only force of gravity in the world. There are other bonds.

At least, that's what's been characterised so far. Whether or not OCean thinks about it this deeply is another matter - after all, every one of Ocean's girls seem to be going to the same body piercer lately, so it's still Ocean logic we'll find out about.

For me, the possibility that there is some Maja content might be part of the manwhore path, where you end up missing out on LI's by playing the field.

 

[AlexFXR]

Great side characters can make a world, story or game shine brighter. Same with background characters. They can really add to the depth, complexity and authenticity of a story.

You're right. But to make it work, the writers create a boundary and make sure that the secondary characters don't overshadow the main ones. And when the secondary characters are more interesting than the main ones, it's a mess.