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We even have the naughty headpattingI mean, I'm not complaining, I still get a good dose of camera angles..
You have Camera angles for the heterosexual male audience.
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And the camera angles for the girls and gay men in the audience.
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We need to call in the expert. What do you think about this headpatting Mr. Darkdevil66
Screw you, Chief
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Hey, hey, hey. This is a good Christian website. We'll have none of that sinful content here!
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i'd don't like 'em either but i'll give 'em a pass ....... but my disdain for Vic and Mila it's "UNMEASURABLE"
easily the 2 worst characters in Summer's Gone.
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i know that you're prolly know this but everytime I play SG again. I can't just ignore Bella's jealous of Nia being close to Nika. she's cute hehe
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Nooooo... Really? Expand a little on that. What do you hate about them?
I think Mila is a little preachy and her body makes me dry heave but other than that she's fine. Pretty face and from what we can tell she makes for a really good friend. The chubby cripple mostly only has one flaw. She's a little too nice/innocent/sweet/naive. Other than that I like her. I've said a thousands times I have negative romantic interest in either of them but I like them as friends to the MC.
And I really want to help Vic get back on her feet. Literally.
Same about the minus romantic interest, maaaaaaaaaybe vic at some point if she gets out of the wheelchair (come on, who wants a crippled gf in a erotic story ... i know im evil) but i share the other posters disdain for mila. But anyway, Vic's a sweetheart even if maybe a liiittttle bit obsessed.
Or disdain is too much but i simply dont like her a lot maybe as much as ... Troy? No i think i even like troy more.
Her judgemental attitude annoys me (about Nia, about Bella), her looks are really really the worst for me, i just see a seahorse when i look at her.
The whole thing with bella and mila entirely failing to take accountability for it until nika pointed it out annoyed me too.
Shes kinda the typical girl who thinks about her own morals so highly and considers herself such a good person while in truth shes rather judgemental, bigoted, cowardly and just doesnt seem all that smart.
Let me ask the other way around:
Whats to like about Mila ? (if your not into fattys *cough* i mean thick girls?) Poor girl stereotype? Damsel in distress? But is there anything about her character which is this great or pleasant? Or unique or likeable? I just dont see it.
The Krogan Dude
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Duh... she likes golf ?
This made her even less likeable to me, who tf likes golf and even more when youre poorDuh... she likes golf ?
she doesnt even have golfing friends, does she intend to go playing there alone? Weirdest wannabe hobby for a poor girl ever lol
BobTheDuck
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I don't really like MIla's model, but I'll bite.
Mila is the first girl at the college to try to befriend Nika. She goes out of her way to let him know he can talk to her, potentially crossing boundaries by making it personally awkward. She also accepts some of Nika's statements at face value, even when they both know he is lying, so I'd say she's actively trying to help him fit in; by this, I mean she doesn't push the issue, and respects his right to keep things to himself. She also pushes Vic at Nika, she can see how much Vic and NIka both need friends.
Personally I don't like that last one, well meaning friends can be a curse at times, but her intention is good.
Lastly, she tries to be self sufficient, and is trying to make her own way.
Compared to Bella, Mila's actively working to minimise the affect of her past on her present. Bella's got a free playing field relatively speaking, and basically avoids moving forward because her life is comfortable enough that she can hide from painful questions.
As a model, Bella is better, but as far as personality traits, Bella's a loose canon, and Mila is far more trustworthy. You're judging Mila for things she did when she was a teenager, without keeping in mind Bella's an even worse level of two facedness. Consider how she treats Kate and even Robyn - 'judgemental, bigoted, cowardly' completely describes Bella.
Excellent game so far. I don't mind the slow burn as long as it doesn't get abandoned (seems like maybe the dev is taking on too much making a prequel for this at the same time?). There are so many unfinished games here it's a shame.
Anyway, the girls in this look amazing after the rework. I played the uncut version so they looked good from the start, but then went back to the chapter 5 beta update to try to figure out if it was a separate thing or new content at the end and immiedately saw that many some of those early scenes through the first few days are pretty rough in the original. Some real nightmare looks on a few of their faces, but the rendering is much better now, definitely some of the best looking in AVN I've played so far.
Anyway, the girls in this look amazing after the rework. I played the uncut version so they looked good from the start, but then went back to the chapter 5 beta update to try to figure out if it was a separate thing or new content at the end and immiedately saw that many some of those early scenes through the first few days are pretty rough in the original. Some real nightmare looks on a few of their faces, but the rendering is much better now, definitely some of the best looking in AVN I've played so far.
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Like the MC, Bella is borderline psychotic and suffering from extreme PTSD. Mila also dealt with bullying and grew up in an abusive/neglectful home, but seems a lot more healthy mentally.
Haha okay well,
She recognized Nika having seeerious (aka suicide killer) troubles and thinks linking him up with wheelchair girl is this smart glorious play. I think thats rather lame.
Like - im there for you - aka i introduce you to someone else and fuck off. I havent seen her doing a lot for Nika.
I wont mention how i think that out of a avn/story/movie/drama/whatever introducing a guy with the character of nika to a girl with the character of Vic would probably most likely not the best idea lol
Even in this story it can lead (play a part in) Nika becoming overwhelmed. You could argue he needs the shock therapy i guess lol
And didnt Nika meet the guys and Nami (again) before he did meet Mila? Maybe i remember it wrong but it was not like she was the one guiding him around introducing him to everyone, it was more people flocking around nami and nika lol
She has concluded that Nika needs help and told nika how she knew someone who killed themself and blames herself for her being passive just to procced to be ... passive with nika? I mean are introducing him to Vic (who he already knew and who already crushed on Nika) and ... i have to scroll up to find the other point ... oh yeah not pushing when he lies ... really these amazing feats you make them out to be?
Its not like she could not "respect his right to keep to himself" when the only other option is being simply shut down by him lol
Thanks for trying to make her more likeable for me tho Bob
Edit: I skipped the Bella part as i dont really see how that is related? Werent we talking about Mila? I only brought Bella up because of their history where Mila fucked up in ways i really cant stand. I blame her less for being afraid as a kid but i blame her for not taking any accountability for it at first until confronted about it and taking smack about bella despite the backstory.
She did not talked shit about bella because bella behaved shitty or bullied her, it was out of rejection and i REALLY cant stand people behaving like that. She felt entitled to bellas friendship, didnt got it because of her "betrayal" and started talking shit about her, thats just ugh
But this wasnt meant to compare bella and mila. If we start doing that, we can bury Mila already :>
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I get that you don't like her, but you've demonised her for the same faults you accept in Bella. That's why I made the comparison. SUre they're different, but Bella's far more antisocial, far more a bitch. It's only that the story forces you to interact whith her that you find out about her trauma. It's pretty lame to like the judgmental attitudes etc. in one character but hate them in another. Basically, you like Bella's model and screen time more than Mila, you're not really looking at her as a character independant the visual aspect and the forced aspect of the narrative.Haha okay well,
She recognized Nika having seeerious (aka suicide killer) troubles and thinks linking him up with wheelchair girl is this smart glorious play. I think thats rather lame.
Like - im there for you - aka i introduce you to someone else and fuck off. I havent seen her doing a lot for Nika.
I wont mention how i think that out of a avn/story/movie/drama/whatever introducing a guy with the character of nika to a girl with the character of Vic would probably most likely not the best idea lol
Even in this story it can lead (play a part in) Nika becoming overwhelmed. You could argue he needs the shock therapy i guess lol
And didnt Nika meet the guys and Nami (again) before he did meet Mila? Maybe i remember it wrong but it was not like she was the one guiding him around introducing him to everyone, it was more people flocking around nami and nika lol
She has concluded that Nika needs help and told nika how she knew someone who killed themself and blames herself for her being passive just to procced to be ... passive with nika? I mean are introducing him to Vic (who he already knew and who already crushed on Nika) and ... i have to scroll up to find the other point ... oh yeah not pushing when he lies ... really these amazing feats you make them out to be?
Its not like she could not "respect his right to keep to himself" when the only other option is being simply shut down by him lol
Thanks for trying to make her more likeable for me tho Bob
Edit: I skipped the Bella part as i dont really see how that is related? Werent we talking about Mila? I only brought Bella up because of their history where Mila fucked up in ways i really cant stand. I blame her less for being afraid as a kid but i blame her for not taking any accountability for it at first until confronted about it and taking smack about bella despite the backstory.
She did not talked shit about bella because bella behaved shitty or bullied her, it was out of rejection and i REALLY cant stand people behaving like that. She felt entitled to bellas friendship, didnt got it because of her "betrayal" and started talking shit about her, thats just ugh
But this wasnt meant to compare bella and mila. If we start doing that, we can bury Mila already :>
You're expecting 1st year college students all with different degrees of trauma and shitheadedness to all be logical and make good choices? College AVN's are ALL about the stupid choices, or how to survive the stupid choices. Mila has good intentions, while Bella starts with malicious pranks. And yes, Mila's the first girl (other than Nami, I did mention girl rather than Trey) that takes the time to talk with Nika. I don't count the interaction with Bella as a conversation - Nika was just finding out who the anti-Nami person was.
Also, yes, Mila's actions as a kid were shitty. So were Nika's we can guess, based on the dropped charge, and so were Nami's based on her and Nika's suss deal. Zara's attitudes? Still a bit shitty. Bella's are very shitty, not sure her mental issues would gt her off the hook for her criminal activities. It's a college AVN, they're only barely adult, especially seeing there's no 18+ content - thy might be legal, but they're damn well acting immature
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Utterly and completely disagree here. The rest of your post is great as usual but this is 100% bs. Not a single one of those adjectives even remotely apply to Bella in my opinion but they fit Mila like a glove.
Bella is antagonistic. Bella is arrogant, spoiled, mean. But judgemental, bigoted or cowardly? Fuck no! She doesn't even believe half the crap she says. She says it to antagonize people and keep them at bay while making sure they fear her enough to not strike back or cross her. Because she won't go back to tolerating being bullied. In her mind she will do 10x what was done to her. She mocks and belittles as a defense mechanism in my perspective.
Like I've said before, I have respect for both Bella and Vanessa, who are portrayed as awful people at first glance, because I find their facade to be as transparent as can be.
Also fuck Kate! She's a piece of shit! Mean girl type bitch. I'll glady watch Bella beat her ass.
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I'll raise your disagreement by 1
Bella is judgmental. How many times does she judge Nika on his looks and lack of wealth? And the same for MIla, but that's a different thing as we discover there is bad blood, but she still judges Mila on her poverty, much like the people she despises. And doesn't she judge the Holgersons without having any real proof of anything? Our whole perspective on Stefan is biased on Bella's judgment. THen the way she talks at the diner, also judging people for ostentatious wealth. And judging NIka over Elsa being out of his league and him staring hopelessly...
Bigoted, well see above. She is bigoted toward poor people, and poor people germs.
Cowardly, well, okay, not so accurate a descriptor, but about as equivalent as it applies to Mila. As Mila was beaten up her whole life, does coward really suit her? In her case it's pavlovian reflex, learned behaviour. Mila also has stood up for people, so coward doesn't fully describe her.
Edit: I focused on that bit and didn't flesh out my reply. 'she will do 10x what was done to her.' This is what most bullies start from. This is why she bullied Nami, sight unseen (how did that even happen?). Both Bella and Vanessa I have trouble with, in that I wouldn't be friends with them in real life, because I'd be switched off by their antics. As characters in an AVN, they stir up a lot of narrative choices, so they're great as antagonists, even if they're not 100% intended as such. Having such polarising characters works wonders for the depth of the story and where it can go. I imagine Adrianna will be similarly feisty.
In the same way, Kate is not meant to be a nice character, and her motives are underhanded. I can't wait to see how Ocean shoehorns her into the drama, much in the same way Vanessa is dangerous - but because of her connections to the Holgersons though, the magnitude of how she can screw Nika up is much higher than anything Kate can do.
It'll be interesting to see how nasty a piece of work Melanie is. I wonder if she'll be hidden in the background somewhere this update - I'm guessing it's too early to actually interact with her this next chapter.
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After realizing that things went too far, Mila had the courage to took Bella's defense knowing that would also make her a target. Which was brave considering everybody seemed to be afraid of Melanie. Years later, Bella became herself a second Melanie Cerill bullying a newcomer with no friends like Nami ( easy target ) out of spite but somehow Mila is a coward but Bella isn't ?