Maccabbee

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Well, I don’t know if I’m smart enough, because even a blind donkey is supposed to notice that Zara is a future love interest.
Maybe, or maybe it's wishful thinking on your part. I'm not saying she isn't. I'm just saying shit can get in the way of that happening. You're the one being an offensive prick. I'm just talking.
 

Julius Kingsley

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Maybe, or maybe it's wishful thinking on your part. I'm not saying she isn't. I'm just saying shit can get in the way of that happening. You're the one being an offensive prick. I'm just talking.
I didn’t mean to offend—just two dudes talking. The only thing that could really get in the way of that is Ocean not finishing the game, which will probably happen.
 

UncleFappy

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Hey, I've been out of the loop for a long while. When was the last dev-update from Ocean? Curious to see how far along he is (isn't? :p) since season 1 wrapped up.
 

Krytax123

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Thankfully there lies in the glorious internet ways to still find that really epic hot tub scene with MC and Nami :sneaky:
This scene was just dumb and not even hot imo, i think its just made a bigger deal because its deleted now and wont matter at all when we get real lewds and more sexyness in general
 

AlexFXR

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When Ocean pulls the trigger to move from Germany to another part of Europe, for example, I certainly expect a few weeks of disrupted workflow at a minimum and knowing what is going on makes it easier for me to accept/understand the future slowdown, whenever it hits.
Yes, we've heard it many times. He constantly wants to move to Spain, spends a lot of time on it and in the end he never moves. Now Ocean doesn't need to move, he's learned to laze around without it, now he posts pictures and promises a lot of crap, like in the last few months, the main thing is that no one notices that game development is at a standstill.
 
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yossa999

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Which is why Ocean removed the mention of adoption and cut Nami humping Nika in the hot tub.
Mention of adoption - yes. Jacuzzi humping scene - no, it just didn't fit with more reserved personality of Nami that was needed for 16+ S1. Judging by the previews this scene will return in all its glory in the S2.
 
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byaaahh

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Mention of adoption - yes. Jacuzzi humping scene - no, it just didn't fit with more reserved personality of Nami that was needed for 16+ S1. Judging by the previews this scene will return in all its glory in the S2.
You say that it was to make Nami more "reserved", yet she still talks about Nika getting a "semi" after she sat on him. It has nothing to do with her character being toned down. Her merely sitting on his lap can be perceived as non-sexual, her grinding on him cannot.

Removing that scene was an attempt to kill two birds with one stone, lower the steam rating and avoid any potential branding of incest (since Noji raising them both since toddlers is seen by everyone as adoption) by Patreon. It's only being re-added to the Steam release because it had no effect on lowering Steam's rating.
 

yossa999

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You say that it was to make Nami more "reserved", yet she still talks about Nika getting a "semi" after she sat on him. It has nothing to do with her character being toned down. Her merely sitting on his lap can be perceived as non-sexual, her grinding on him cannot.

Removing that scene was an attempt to kill two birds with one stone, lower the steam rating and avoid any potential branding of incest (since Noji raising them both since toddlers is seen by everyone as adoption) by Patreon. It's only being re-added to the Steam release because it had no effect on lowering Steam's rating.
Nami is one of the main LIs and MC will eventually bang her, it's just delayed until S2. It's okay since they're just roommates and Noji their Asian landlady.
 

byaaahh

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Nami is one of the main LIs and MC will eventually bang her, it's just delayed until S2. It's okay since they're just roommates and Noji their Asian landlady.
We can choose to believe that, but we all know the truth...

The Jacuzzi scene got added in 2022, WiaB got yeeted from Patreon for incest in 2022... Then suddenly all mentions of adoption were removed. I get why Ocean did it, if he wasn't cautious, all his projects would die on the vine.
 

AlexFXR

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Not defending him, WiAB should be out by now and has been his main focus. but if you actually read the DevLog he did postwork on the 5k render meaning he wont have to when he finishes the last 2000 and directly said this as well.
Do you read his Dev logs carefully? I won't sing my old song about post-processing being just a way to milk his Patreons. I did that before with all the examples. Now I will use only Ocean's words. He said that he does post-processing for 500 renders a day. Now remember how much time has passed since that log when Ocean said that Wiab was ready and only post-processing remained? If you multiply 500 by the number of days that have passed, it turns out that post-processing could have been done not only for Chapter 4 of Wiab, but for the entire season.
 
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yossa999

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WiaB got yeeted from Patreon for incest in 2022
In 2024.

We can choose to believe that, but we all know the truth...
Even me, with my complete lack of imagination, can come up with several retcon explanations why Noji, Nami, and Nika live together without being related to each other. It may seem far-fetched or implausible to some, but then again, who cares. People are perfectly fine with Spiderman or House M.D., even though both are pure fiction that can’t stand any serious criticism. As long as people like the story and the characters, they’re willing to suspend their disbelief to the maximum.

"but we all know the truth" - It's a fictional story in the making and the author is known for changing it on the fly. We know shit.

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byaaahh

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My bad, nearly 8am and haven't slept.

Even me, with my complete lack of imagination, can come up with several retcon explanations why Noji, Nami, and Nika live together without being related to each other. It may seem far-fetched or implausible to some, but then again, who cares. People are perfectly fine with Spiderman or House M.D., even though both are pure fiction that can’t stand any serious criticism. As long as people like the story and the characters, they’re willing to suspend their disbelief to the maximum.

"but we all know the truth" - It's a fictional story in the making and the author is known for changing it on the fly. We know shit.
"Adoption is a process whereby a person assumes the parenting of another, usually a child, from that person's biological or legal parent or parents."

You can't explain why a woman with no familial relation has solely raised two children from the ages of three to eighteen and them not be classed as a family unit. That is why every mention of adoption was removed, because Patreon counts step-siblings as incest. The change wasn't because the narrative called for it, it was because Patreon was cracking skulls.

Nika and Nami even share the same surname and you're telling me we don't reeeally know... Come on dude.
 
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yossa999

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My bad, nearly 8am and haven't slept.
More sleep, less zone :KEK:
"Adoption is a process whereby a person assumes the parenting of another, usually a child, from that person's biological or legal parent or parents."
Good. Although it has nothing to do with Noji.
You can't explain why a woman with no familial relation has solely raised two children from the ages of three to eighteen and them not be classed as a family unit.
She agreed with their parents that she would look after the children while they're targeted by the cult. The parents were killed. She fled to another part of the country to save children. Since then they have lived with her.
Or maybe she's in the witness protection program. I'm not sure.
That is why every mention of adoption was removed, because Patreon counts step-siblings as incest. The change wasn't because the narrative called for it, it was because Patreon was cracking skulls.
Yup. Just what I said - now they're roommates, Noji is their landlady. "No funny business between roommates" is now only a Noji's weird rule. They'll bang, mkay?
Nika and Nami even share the same surname and you're telling me we don't reeeally know... Come on dude.
Coincidence. Half of the Wollust are Zanes. A very common last name in that place.
But I don't even need this excuse. Nika's last name is Cyrus, but who told you that Nami is Cyrus too? Who told you that Cyrus isn't a fake name that Noji gave him when she run away from the cult?
BTW Noji is Miyazaki now.
 

byaaahh

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More sleep, less zone :KEK:
I've been binging Yellowstone and 1883, so my sleep is all fucked up.
Good. Although it has nothing to do with Noji.
She agreed with their parents that she would look after the children while they're targeted by the cult. The parents were killed. She fled to another part of the country to save children. Since then they have lived with her.
Or maybe she's in the witness protection program. I'm not sure.
So the biological parents put their children into her care, to raise for in indeterminate period of time. Sounds like the definition of adoption to me. Maybe it wasn't done through the legal system, but it fits the definition to a T.
Also, at least one parent of Nika is still alive, they've lived in Wollust the whole time, so those are out.
Yup. Just what I said - now they're roommates, Noji is their landlady. "No funny business between roommates" is now only a Noji's weird rule. They'll bang, mkay?
We know that they are no longer deemed step-siblings, but the story was conceptualised and released as them being that. No amount of obfuscation will change the fact that Nika and Nami were, by definition, adopted by Noji.
Coincidence. Half of the Wollust are Zanes. A very common last name in that place.
But I don't even need this excuse. Nika's last name is Cyrus, but who told you that Nami is Cyrus too? Who told you that Cyrus isn't a fake name that Noji gave him when she run away from the cult?
BTW Noji is Miyazaki now.
It probably is likely they were placed in Noji's care for their protection. With William likely being Nika's dad, the gangs likely started targeting people close to Leia because she started stepping on her business. We don't know yet why Nami, who is likely Daphne's daughter, was placed there too.
 
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N0madS0uL

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This game still kicking? Or more likely moulding in a shallow grave? I have not followed it in some time due to its slow progress. While brilliant content (that which is there) its still shocking to see a game from 2019 still only in a "season 1" state and not done yet or much deeper in, closer to complete. It is unfortunate, if this is due to the developer not having support, funds, large enough studio and personnel to assist with this project as I can imagine its pretty intense if you go at it alone or with many limitations. That being said, its also disappointing that nothing new has been released in such a long time and that updates and content are sparse (which this game/developer seems notorious for), this includes the devs other game, which is also good but still divides the resources and attention, better to complete one before moving to the next IMO. Sigh...:confused:
 
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She agreed with their parents that she would look after the children while they're targeted by the cult. The parents were killed. She fled to another part of the country to save children. Since then they have lived with her.
Or maybe she's in the witness protection program. I'm not sure.
It probably is likely they were placed in Noji's care for their protection. With William likely being Nika's dad, the gangs likely started targeting people close to Leia because she started stepping on her business. We don't know yet why Nami, who is likely Daphne's daughter, was placed there too.
Wo Wo Wo. I have played the game a long time ago, and thought to myself to give it another playthrough before the next update is "probably" dropped in near future. So I decided to read some comments in the thread to see what's what. I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT A CULT OR GANG BUSINESS OR NAMIS DAD??? What's that about?
 

byaaahh

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Wo Wo Wo. I have played the game a long time ago, and thought to myself to give it another playthrough before the next update is "probably" dropped in near future. So I decided to read some comments in the thread to see what's what. I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT A CULT OR GANG BUSINESS OR NAMIS DAD??? What's that about?
The gang is briefly mentioned in SG, but they seem to be one of the main antagonists in the prequel game, Where it all Began.
 
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