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Nami is one of the main LIs and MC will eventually bang her, it's just delayed until S2. It's okay since they're just roommates and Noji their Asian landlady.
We can choose to believe that, but we all know the truth...

The Jacuzzi scene got added in 2022, WiaB got yeeted from Patreon for incest in 2022... Then suddenly all mentions of adoption were removed. I get why Ocean did it, if he wasn't cautious, all his projects would die on the vine.
 

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Not defending him, WiAB should be out by now and has been his main focus. but if you actually read the DevLog he did postwork on the 5k render meaning he wont have to when he finishes the last 2000 and directly said this as well.
Do you read his Dev logs carefully? I won't sing my old song about post-processing being just a way to milk his Patreons. I did that before with all the examples. Now I will use only Ocean's words. He said that he does post-processing for 500 renders a day. Now remember how much time has passed since that log when Ocean said that Wiab was ready and only post-processing remained? If you multiply 500 by the number of days that have passed, it turns out that post-processing could have been done not only for Chapter 4 of Wiab, but for the entire season.
 
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WiaB got yeeted from Patreon for incest in 2022
In 2024.

We can choose to believe that, but we all know the truth...
Even me, with my complete lack of imagination, can come up with several retcon explanations why Noji, Nami, and Nika live together without being related to each other. It may seem far-fetched or implausible to some, but then again, who cares. People are perfectly fine with Spiderman or House M.D., even though both are pure fiction that can’t stand any serious criticism. As long as people like the story and the characters, they’re willing to suspend their disbelief to the maximum.

"but we all know the truth" - It's a fictional story in the making and the author is known for changing it on the fly. We know shit.

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My bad, nearly 8am and haven't slept.

Even me, with my complete lack of imagination, can come up with several retcon explanations why Noji, Nami, and Nika live together without being related to each other. It may seem far-fetched or implausible to some, but then again, who cares. People are perfectly fine with Spiderman or House M.D., even though both are pure fiction that can’t stand any serious criticism. As long as people like the story and the characters, they’re willing to suspend their disbelief to the maximum.

"but we all know the truth" - It's a fictional story in the making and the author is known for changing it on the fly. We know shit.
"Adoption is a process whereby a person assumes the parenting of another, usually a child, from that person's biological or legal parent or parents."

You can't explain why a woman with no familial relation has solely raised two children from the ages of three to eighteen and them not be classed as a family unit. That is why every mention of adoption was removed, because Patreon counts step-siblings as incest. The change wasn't because the narrative called for it, it was because Patreon was cracking skulls.

Nika and Nami even share the same surname and you're telling me we don't reeeally know... Come on dude.
 

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My bad, nearly 8am and haven't slept.
More sleep, less zone :KEK:
"Adoption is a process whereby a person assumes the parenting of another, usually a child, from that person's biological or legal parent or parents."
Good. Although it has nothing to do with Noji.
You can't explain why a woman with no familial relation has solely raised two children from the ages of three to eighteen and them not be classed as a family unit.
She agreed with their parents that she would look after the children while they're targeted by the cult. The parents were killed. She fled to another part of the country to save children. Since then they have lived with her.
Or maybe she's in the witness protection program. I'm not sure.
That is why every mention of adoption was removed, because Patreon counts step-siblings as incest. The change wasn't because the narrative called for it, it was because Patreon was cracking skulls.
Yup. Just what I said - now they're roommates, Noji is their landlady. "No funny business between roommates" is now only a Noji's weird rule. They'll bang, mkay?
Nika and Nami even share the same surname and you're telling me we don't reeeally know... Come on dude.
Coincidence. Half of the Wollust are Zanes. A very common last name in that place.
But I don't even need this excuse. Nika's last name is Cyrus, but who told you that Nami is Cyrus too? Who told you that Cyrus isn't a fake name that Noji gave him when she run away from the cult?
BTW Noji is Miyazaki now.
 

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More sleep, less zone :KEK:
I've been binging Yellowstone and 1883, so my sleep is all fucked up.
Good. Although it has nothing to do with Noji.
She agreed with their parents that she would look after the children while they're targeted by the cult. The parents were killed. She fled to another part of the country to save children. Since then they have lived with her.
Or maybe she's in the witness protection program. I'm not sure.
So the biological parents put their children into her care, to raise for in indeterminate period of time. Sounds like the definition of adoption to me. Maybe it wasn't done through the legal system, but it fits the definition to a T.
Also, at least one parent of Nika is still alive, they've lived in Wollust the whole time, so those are out.
Yup. Just what I said - now they're roommates, Noji is their landlady. "No funny business between roommates" is now only a Noji's weird rule. They'll bang, mkay?
We know that they are no longer deemed step-siblings, but the story was conceptualised and released as them being that. No amount of obfuscation will change the fact that Nika and Nami were, by definition, adopted by Noji.
Coincidence. Half of the Wollust are Zanes. A very common last name in that place.
But I don't even need this excuse. Nika's last name is Cyrus, but who told you that Nami is Cyrus too? Who told you that Cyrus isn't a fake name that Noji gave him when she run away from the cult?
BTW Noji is Miyazaki now.
It probably is likely they were placed in Noji's care for their protection. With William likely being Nika's dad, the gangs likely started targeting people close to Leia because she started stepping on her business. We don't know yet why Nami, who is likely Daphne's daughter, was placed there too.
 
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This game still kicking? Or more likely moulding in a shallow grave? I have not followed it in some time due to its slow progress. While brilliant content (that which is there) its still shocking to see a game from 2019 still only in a "season 1" state and not done yet or much deeper in, closer to complete. It is unfortunate, if this is due to the developer not having support, funds, large enough studio and personnel to assist with this project as I can imagine its pretty intense if you go at it alone or with many limitations. That being said, its also disappointing that nothing new has been released in such a long time and that updates and content are sparse (which this game/developer seems notorious for), this includes the devs other game, which is also good but still divides the resources and attention, better to complete one before moving to the next IMO. Sigh...:confused:
 
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She agreed with their parents that she would look after the children while they're targeted by the cult. The parents were killed. She fled to another part of the country to save children. Since then they have lived with her.
Or maybe she's in the witness protection program. I'm not sure.
It probably is likely they were placed in Noji's care for their protection. With William likely being Nika's dad, the gangs likely started targeting people close to Leia because she started stepping on her business. We don't know yet why Nami, who is likely Daphne's daughter, was placed there too.
Wo Wo Wo. I have played the game a long time ago, and thought to myself to give it another playthrough before the next update is "probably" dropped in near future. So I decided to read some comments in the thread to see what's what. I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT A CULT OR GANG BUSINESS OR NAMIS DAD??? What's that about?
 

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Wo Wo Wo. I have played the game a long time ago, and thought to myself to give it another playthrough before the next update is "probably" dropped in near future. So I decided to read some comments in the thread to see what's what. I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT A CULT OR GANG BUSINESS OR NAMIS DAD??? What's that about?
The gang is briefly mentioned in SG, but they seem to be one of the main antagonists in the prequel game, Where it all Began.
 

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Oh, I haven't played where it all began. Guess it's mandatory to play that for SG. Thanks
They are being developed concurrently, usually with alternating chapter releases. We are expecting a WiaB release in the next couple of months.

Be warned though, it will have you wondering who in SG is related to whom in WiaB.
 

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So the biological parents put their children into her care, to raise for in indeterminate period of time. Sounds like the definition of adoption to me. Maybe it wasn't done through the legal system, but it fits the definition to a T.
So every friend of a family who stays for a while with children while their parents are away adopts them? That doesn't work like this. Whatever it might look like - there is not a word about adoption anywhere in the game.

Don't get me wrong, I won't be surprised at all by any absurd decisions on the part of the content distribution platforms, for example they can decide that if a guy doesn't explicitly ask a girl before sex - whether she is of sound mind and agrees to sleep with him without any coercion - then this is a forced sex and should be banned.
Also, at least one parent of Nika is still alive, they've lived in Wollust the whole time, so those are out.
Nah, Nika being a Willie's or Leia's son is a red herring.
We know that they are no longer deemed step-siblings, but the story was conceptualised and released as them being that. No amount of obfuscation will change the fact that Nika and Nami were, by definition, adopted by Noji.
There is no obfuscation there is a change of the original story. There is no fact about the adoption in the game now. As well as Nika didn't put a gun to Marla's head. That didn't happen in the current game.
It probably is likely they were placed in Noji's care for their protection. With William likely being Nika's dad, the gangs likely started targeting people close to Leia because she started stepping on her business. We don't know yet why Nami, who is likely Daphne's daughter, was placed there too.
Speculation upon speculation. None of this was explicitly stated in the game. Sure, you can believe it, but don't be surprised if it turns out to be wrong. :KEK:
 

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Wo Wo Wo. I have played the game a long time ago, and thought to myself to give it another playthrough before the next update is "probably" dropped in near future. So I decided to read some comments in the thread to see what's what. I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING ABOUT A CULT OR GANG BUSINESS OR NAMIS DAD??? What's that about?
It depends how long was that long time ago. :KEK:
If the last time you've played Nika was waving a gun before Marla's face - many things have changed since then.

The cult and the gang originated from WiAB - now WiAB and SG are more closely connected, but nevertheless, there is no indication in SG that Nika and Nami are somehow connected to this. Everything I wrote is just an example of an explanation made up in a minute from my head as to why they live with Noji, but she did not adopt them.
 

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So every friend of a family who stays for a while with children while their parents are away adopts them? That doesn't work like this. Whatever it might look like - there is not a word about adoption anywhere in the game.
If the child is left with the friend, for an extended period of time (in the Cyrus' case, 15 years) with no financial support or communication with their child...
Nah, Nika being a Willie's or Leia's son is a red herring.
Wasn't SG announced as being in the "Zane-universe"? Wouldn't make sense for Ocean to reveal that, only for you not to be playing a Zane
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There is no obfuscation there is a change of the original story. There is no fact about the adoption in the game now. As well as Nika didn't put a gun to Marla's head. That didn't happen in the current game.
As I've said, the fact that Noji took in two kids and raised them for fifteen years by herself, with no input from the parents cannot simply be waved away as "it's not adoption, because the script doesn't say it anymore".
Actions speak louder than words and Noji's actions are those of a parent.

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Nap time!
 
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As I've said, the fact that Noji took in two kids and raised them for fifteen years by herself, with no input from the parents cannot simply be waved away as "it's not adoption, because the script doesn't say it anymore".
Actions speak louder than words and Noji's actions are those of a parent.

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Nap time!
I always just assumed Noji was their legal guardian, if you're not playing with the i-mod. Noji behaves like their parent because she functionally is one, but that doesn't necessitate her legally or biologically being so. MC and the Cheeto could just be her wards.
 

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I always just assumed Noji was their legal guardian, if you're not playing with the i-mod. Noji behaves like their parent because she functionally is one, but that doesn't necessitate her legally or biologically being so. MC and the Cheeto could just be her wards.
The whole reason "adoption" was removed from the script was there was to be no blood relation or legal relation between the three, as incest (even step-incest) breaks Patreon's ToS.

Considering a legal guardian is court appointed, that might be a flimsy enough legal relation for Patreon to deem it a violation. You'd have a legal parent and two "wards", which sounds an awful lot like a family unit.
 

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The whole reason "adoption" was removed from the script was there was to be no blood relation or legal relation between the three, as incest (even step-incest) breaks Patreon's ToS.

Considering a legal guardian is court appointed, that might be a flimsy enough legal relation for Patreon to deem it a violation. You'd have a legal parent and two "wards", which sounds an awful lot like a family unit.
Oh. Didn't know even adopted-incest was against Patreon rules either. If thats the case, then yeah, legal guardian probably wouldn't work either. Its really just court-adoption after all.

But also, legal guardian doesn't have the same impact as "parent/mom/dad", and it gives that sense of there being a wall between the guardian and ward that isn't familial. Maybe thats enough. I dunno.

Anyways, that was a useless tangent. My bad.
 

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In 2024.


Even me, with my complete lack of imagination, can come up with several retcon explanations why Noji, Nami, and Nika live together without being related to each other. It may seem far-fetched or implausible to some, but then again, who cares. People are perfectly fine with Spiderman or House M.D., even though both are pure fiction that can’t stand any serious criticism. As long as people like the story and the characters, they’re willing to suspend their disbelief to the maximum.

"but we all know the truth" - It's a fictional story in the making and the author is known for changing it on the fly. We know shit.

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where did you get these?
 
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