RNasc4444

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For the joy of RNasc who will be able to Shoot her down
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Ngl this would be goated! What I wouldn't give to feed that detestable bitch a plate of shotgun to the face! :LOL:

Better yet follow DPC's footsteps and make it an arcade shooter minigame. But all zombies are Summer.

I don't give a shit how many more sad story retcons Ocean introduces to paint her in a brighter light. I'm not getting fooled! Also that shit isn't even canon in any playthrough of mine because I NEVER go to the camwhore's place.
 

Krytax123

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Ngl this would be goated! What I wouldn't give to feed that detestable bitch a plate of shotgun to the face! :LOL:

Better yet follow DPC's footsteps and make it an arcade shooter minigame. But all zombies are Summer.

I don't give a shit how many more sad story retcons Ocean introduces to paint her in a brighter light. I'm not getting fooled! Also that shit isn't even canon in any playthrough of mine because I NEVER go to the camwhore's place.
Did you got beaten up regularly by your childhood sweetheart or somehting or why the hate? :LOL:
 

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Did you got beaten up regularly by your childhood sweetheart or somehting or why the hate? :LOL:
Wait are you seriously asking? Or just joking around?

I feel like I've answered this a million times. But here it goes again. Few reasons why Summer is a disgustingly awful child:

- Befriends Nami only to basically turn on her to the point of treating her like shit.
- Her idea of entertainment is pitting 2 animals against each other and watching them fight
- Her idea of "flirting" is physical violence
- Treats her own little cousin like shit too

And all this is after Ocean softened her up quite a bit. I don't really blame her as all children are a product of their upbringing but I refuse to go easy on her either. Also this is not specific to Summer. I've been very outspoken about both of Ocean's protagonists being huge pieces of shit too.

On the Summer topic, for a while, a few years ago, I was even entertaining the idea of the MC's trauma being accidentally killing Summer trying to break up an argument between her and Nami. And then him and Nami hiding the body but the MC having forgoten the whole thing due to how traumatizing it was. That ship sailed too, sadly. I would have enjoyed Summer being actually dead dead and having no shot at appearing in the story later.
 

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"Her idea of entertainment is pitting 2 animals against each other and watching them fight"
C'mon bro!!!!! they were freaking spiders..... :ROFLMAO: In fact you're talking about this girl likes
she's an adult? She was just a kid maybe 13 at most? Hopefully you're just joking lol!
 

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"Her idea of entertainment is pitting 2 animals against each other and watching them fight"
C'mon bro!!!!! they were freaking spiders..... :ROFLMAO: In fact you're talking about this girl likes
she's an adult? She was just a kid maybe 13 at most? Hopefully you're just joking lol!
Is your argument here that spiders aren't animals? Or just playing semantics? Because I do include insects in the broader "animals" term here.
Are you arguing that someone who's 13 can't tell right from wrong? Shit in the US these "children" are driving at 16. A moral compass is kinda expected a little earlier than that, no?
And no, I'm *dead* ( :ROFLMAO: ) serious. If your child behaves at 13 or 14 like Summer did, you are a failure as a parent.
 

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Note to self: If your kid starts a mortal kombat tournament with bugs, it might be time to put him/her up for adoption.
And if you suddenly find comments in this thread that suspiciously resemble something your kid might have posted, don't rush to punish him and change the parental control password; perhaps the little shit has nothing to do with it, and it's just some regulars have been recently unbanned.
 

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This week there's a devlog, right? Ocean must comment on something about taxes or excuses that WiAB is taking away his sleepless nights.
He already uses mystical post-processing as an excuse. Well, if the post-processing is ready, then it will be the phone's turn or the music license. Ocean doesn't like to come up with new excuses, he usually uses the old ones in a circle.
p.s. That's right, the log will be on Wednesday.
 
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Is your argument here that spiders aren't animals? Or just playing semantics? Because I do include insects in the broader "animals" term here.
Are you arguing that someone who's 13 can't tell right from wrong? Shit in the US these "children" are driving at 16. A moral compass is kinda expected a little earlier than that, no?
And no, I'm *dead* ( :ROFLMAO: ) serious. If your child behaves at 13 or 14 like Summer did, you are a failure as a parent.

Seriously, dude, you need to get a grip. She didn't turn on Nami, Nami turned on her out of jealousy of Nika, and Nami felt betrayed by Summer, when Summer still liked her, but loved Nika. Summer even says she doesn't hate Nami, and probably realized that Nami was jealous. Summer is a confrontational tomboy as a kid, and never fought Nami, and apparently only beat up on guys as a kid. Yeah, she was 13 in that scene, as I think it was the day before she disappeared. Some people mature earlier than others, but really, griefing on her because she likes spider fights? Get over yourself.

They weren't forcing them to fight (like, how do you force a spider to do anything?). They put two spiders together hoping they'd fight. They didn't even fight! The spiders fucked!
 
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He already uses mystical post-processing as an excuse. Well, if the post-processing is ready, then it will be the phone's turn or the music license. Ocean doesn't like to come up with new excuses, he usually uses the old ones in a circle.
p.s. That's right, the log will be on Wednesday.
Good night to you too Alexander.
 

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Seriously, dude, you need to get a grip. She didn't turn on Nami, Nami turned on her out of jealousy of Nika, and Nami felt betrayed by Summer, when Summer still liked her, but loved Nika.
If this is your interpretation of what happened then we are playing different games, therefore discussion is pointless. I don't play the Steam version in the OP so maybe there's a disconnect there.
 

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Wait are you seriously asking? Or just joking around?

I feel like I've answered this a million times. But here it goes again. Few reasons why Summer is a disgustingly awful child:

- Befriends Nami only to basically turn on her to the point of treating her like shit.
- Her idea of entertainment is pitting 2 animals against each other and watching them fight
- Her idea of "flirting" is physical violence
- Treats her own little cousin like shit too

And all this is after Ocean softened her up quite a bit. I don't really blame her as all children are a product of their upbringing but I refuse to go easy on her either. Also this is not specific to Summer. I've been very outspoken about both of Ocean's protagonists being huge pieces of shit too.

On the Summer topic, for a while, a few years ago, I was even entertaining the idea of the MC's trauma being accidentally killing Summer trying to break up an argument between her and Nami. And then him and Nami hiding the body but the MC having forgoten the whole thing due to how traumatizing it was. That ship sailed too, sadly. I would have enjoyed Summer being actually dead dead and having no shot at appearing in the story later.
Seriously, dude, you need to get a grip. She didn't turn on Nami, Nami turned on her out of jealousy of Nika, and Nami felt betrayed by Summer, when Summer still liked her, but loved Nika. Summer even says she doesn't hate Nami, and probably realized that Nami was jealous. Summer is a confrontational tomboy as a kid, and never fought Nami, and apparently only beat up on guys as a kid. Yeah, she was 13 in that scene, as I think it was the day before she disappeared. Some people mature earlier than others, but really, griefing on her because she likes spider fights? Get over yourself.

They weren't forcing them to fight (like, how do you force a spider to do anything?). They put two spiders together hoping they'd fight. They didn't even fight! The spiders fucked!
My point of view is Nami being jealous because Nika prefers spend the time with Summer and not with her, but yeah… I think Summer was a little selfish because she literally separated Nika from Nami (Nika chose that too so…) I think both of them have their own fault :)

About spiders and insects fights… I have to confess… I watch sometimes those youtube videos about a spider vs a scorpion or those things… I don’t see it really bad, i mean, i can understand why someone wouldn’t like it but i don’t think is something real bad.
 

RNasc4444

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My point of view is Nami being jealous because Nika prefers spend the time with Summer and not with her, but yeah… I think Summer was a little selfish because she literally separated Nika from Nami (Nika chose that too so…) I think both of them have their own fault :)

About spiders and insects fights… I have to confess… I watch sometimes those youtube videos about a spider vs a scorpion or those things… I don’t see it really bad, i mean, i can understand why someone wouldn’t like it but i don’t think is something real bad.
Yeah I guess I can see that. But Nami brought Summer "in" as reinforcement against the MC in their sibling rivalry. Then Summer "betrayed" Nami and shut her out. The MC's "fault" in the matter is perfectly understandable. But one thing I've always noticed is that Ocean seems to portray children in very polar opposites in both games. The MC, Summer, Leia and William are very nasty kids that contrast with how sweet people like Elsa, Bella, Mila and even Nami are portrayed. So they kinda stand out to me. People can agree or not, it's just how I see it.

That's fine but I just found the whole intro scene jarring honestly. It creeped me out. Always did, still does a little. I don't see that as normal child behavior. Whatever Ocean tried to portray there it missed the mark with me. I lean towards future psycopaths more than well adjusted young adults. I think that scene is partly a remnant of a game that doesn't exist anymore but was kept because "fuck it".
 

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Yeah I guess I can see that. But Nami brought Summer "in" as reinforcement against the MC in their sibling rivalry. Then Summer "betrayed" Nami and shut her out. The MC's "fault" in the matter is perfectly understandable. But one thing I've always noticed is that Ocean seems to portray children in very polar opposites in both games. The MC, Summer, Leia and William are very nasty kids that contrast with how sweet people like Elsa, Bella, Mila and even Nami are portrayed. So they kinda stand out to me. People can agree or not, it's just how I see it.

That's fine but I just found the whole intro scene jarring honestly. It creeped me out. Always did, still does a little. I don't see that as normal child behavior. Whatever Ocean tried to portray there it missed the mark with me. I lean towards future psycopaths more than well adjusted young adults. I think that scene is partly a remnant of a game that doesn't exist anymore but was kept because "fuck it".
That's mostly because the WIAB kids grew up with Dylan forcing brutal competitions between them, and trying to toughen them up for their future life of crime. It wasn't helped (in the original story) by all the hidden incest and sibling rivalry between Leia and Katie. At a guess, I don't think Leia was a total cunt (to anyone except Katie and Monica) until after Will abandoned her when they were 16 (and without explaining or contacting her in any way for years). It definitely made more sense with them being incestuous twins than it does now...
 
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