VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[RNasc4444]

That's mostly because the WIAB kids grew up with Dylan forcing brutal competitions between them, and trying to toughen them up for their future life of crime. It wasn't helped (in the original story) by all the hidden incest and sibling rivalry between Leia and Katie. At a guess, I don't think Leia was a total cunt (to anyone except Katie and Monica) until after Will abandoned her when they were 16 (and without explaining or contacting her in any way for years). It definitely made more sense with them being incestuous twins than it does now...

I feel like it's implied both Leia and William were assholes by how they treated Katie. And that was before William left. But yeah like I said I don't fault the children entirely because their upbringing plays a big part in who they become.

But that's the spider part that disturbed you ?

Like I said it was a different game back then
And God I fucking miss crackhead Nami

And bro, its not like its easy to keep up with all the girls you dislike, im picky myself but you are on a different level, so give me a break

No no no! Give ME a break! It's a fairly short list and hasn't changed much in years!
From SG I'm neutral about most characters. I strongly dislike Summer, Nia and Zara. Then comes the tier with the Cyrill bitches, Kate, Miriam etc... After that comes the characters that are slowly being "fixed" like Marla and Amber.

Ok just basically, right now it's Summer, Nia, Zara... That's it. But worry not I'm sure Leia will take the lead on my hate list as soon as she shows up in SG. Wouldn't mind bashing that bitch's skull in...

 

[Krytax123]

I feel like it's implied both Leia and William were assholes by how they treated Katie. And that was before William left. But yeah like I said I don't fault the children entirely because their upbringing plays a big part in who they become.


Like I said it was a different game back then
And God I fucking miss crackhead Nami


No no no! Give ME a break! It's a fairly short list and hasn't changed much in years!
From SG I'm neutral about most characters. I strongly dislike Summer, Nia and Zara. Then comes the tier with the Cyrill bitches, Kate, Miriam etc... After that comes the characters that are slowly being "fixed" like Marla and Amber.

Ok just basically, right now it's Summer, Nia, Zara... That's it. But worry not I'm sure Leia will take the lead on my hate list as soon as she shows up in SG. Wouldn't mind bashing that bitch's skull in...

Thats it? really? sure?

So you cant wait to continue your Mila and Vic playthroughs when the next episode drops hm?

 

[RNasc4444]

Thats it? really? sure?

So you cant wait to continue your Mila and Vic playthroughs when the next episode drops hm?

I mostly shit on the chubby cripple to fuck with Mavi Even though I kinda wish she wasn't so annoyingly sweet and naive. But I'd carry her chubby ass around all day and night for a single shot at her sister

And Mila...I really wish we didn't have to move in with her. It bothers me how preachy and judgy she is. Then there's the whole circus freak body type thing. Me no likey.

That's it. I like them both as friends to the MC. Not at all as LI's though. They are nowhere near the Summer, Nia, Zara tier. Those three I don't even want so see on my screen

 

[Krytax123]

I mostly shit on the chubby cripple to fuck with Mavi Even though I kinda wish she wasn't so annoyingly sweet and naive. But I'd carry her chubby ass around all day and night for a single shot at her sister

And Mila...I really wish we didn't have to move in with her. It bothers me how preachy and judgy she is. Then there's the whole circus freak body type thing. Me no likey.

That's it. I like them both as friends to the MC. Not at all as LI's though. They are nowhere near the Summer, Nia, Zara tier. Those three I don't even want so see on my screen

Yooo but you see my problem right? It was about keeping up with your dislike of LI's. And now youre explaining your dislike tierlists for the girls ...

(i feel exactly the same with vic and mila btw )

 

[Maccabbee]

I mostly shit on the chubby cripple to fuck with Mavi Even though I kinda wish she wasn't so annoyingly sweet and naive. But I'd carry her chubby ass around all day and night for a single shot at her sister

And Mila...I really wish we didn't have to move in with her. It bothers me how preachy and judgy she is. Then there's the whole circus freak body type thing. Me no likey.

That's it. I like them both as friends to the MC. Not at all as LI's though. They are nowhere near the Summer, Nia, Zara tier. Those three I don't even want so see on my screen

Yooo but you see my problem right? It was about keeping up with your dislike of LI's. And now youre explaining your dislike tierlists for the girls ...

(i feel exactly the same with vic and mila btw )

Yikes. Y'all are just... I would "ignore" y'all, but it's too entertaining to read this stuff.

 

[Ferlucio]

Can someone spoil me, is there any sex scenes here or nah?
The tags are rather sparse and while I'm all for slow burn games if there is none in 6 years I'd rather go for something else.

 

[Maccabbee]

Can someone spoil me, is there any sex scenes here or nah?
The tags are rather sparse and while I'm all for slow burn games if there is none in 6 years I'd rather go for something else.

No sex, just story. Some kissing. Heavy petting. One four-way-makeout session. Optional hand-holding.

 

[BobTheDuck]

That's fine but I just found the whole intro scene jarring honestly. It creeped me out. Always did, still does a little. I don't see that as normal child behavior. Whatever Ocean tried to portray there it missed the mark with me. I lean towards future psycopaths more than well adjusted young adults. I think that scene is partly a remnant of a game that doesn't exist anymore but was kept because "fuck it".

Not getting into the debate about "Summer, Y/N" but this bit. It's a dream of someone who is traumatised by the elements of the dream. It should be jarring. If Summer disintergrated at the end of it before Nika woke up (after he realised he was kissing a zombie that was now trying to eat him tongue first) that would have been so wonderfully Capcom. And it wouldn't prove Summer was dead or alive, just that NIka has a fucked up brain that dreams weird obsessive shit.

So that intro scene says a lot about NIka, how he views Summer more than how SUmmer actually is. Mayb Nika's the actual one who likes pitting spiders against each other, just like he did the photo of Nami's dead hamster? I just hope Ocean doesn't lean too much into the dream aspect of it: "and then Nika woke up" vibes are a cheap way to resolve some of those issues. Dreams are the brain trying to process what overwhelms its thought process during the day, after all.

Yikes. Y'all are just... I would "ignore" y'all, but it's too entertaining to read this stuff.

Save ignores for the true stars of the zone who talk about DAZ and Blender in non-art/assets threads This stuff is actually awesome to debate instead. If people have spent time developing a detailed opinion about SG's characters or story, chances are they'll notice things I didn't. Helps to give me perspective outside my own biases/prejudices/preconceptions.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

ut yeah like I said I don't fault the children entirely because their upbringing plays a big part in who they become.

Isn't that too much responsibility to place on landlords?

 

[The unseen]

But that's the spider part that disturbed you ?

Christ, Nami was ugly in that version.

 

[wizardcock]

Christ, Nami was ugly in that version.

yeah, and Summer`s frighteningly beautiful

 

[Maccabbee]

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yeah, and Summer`s frighteningly beautiful

Fuckin Resident Evil level nightmare material right there.

 

[Maccabbee]

No sex, just story. Some kissing. Heavy petting. One four-way-makeout session. Optional hand-holding.

Rereading this made me think a bit: I think most people don't get that Vic is a fucking predator (in the best way possible). She's the one that approaches you on that fateful walk, and is striking up conversation with you, and is clearly interested despite your coldness. What happens derails things.

Later, yeah, she's in a bad way physically and emotionally, but still is ultra sweet to everyone unless she's melting down.

She is very socially forward, and has unapologetic interest in everyone and greets hostility with genuine friendliness. She's "soft" and "nice", but sexually interested and makes that plain. In the hangout, if you play it right and get the four-way makeout session (one of the hottest scenes in any AVN, fight me), she's the one that kicks it off!!!! I also don't get why people that call her fat. Only thing fat on her are her cheeks and breasts. She's petite, thin, and light (though in reality, those tits would weigh more than my thighs, and I am not small).

I also find it amusing that a girl named Summer looked more like a winter, while Vic looks very summery.

 

[yossa999]

Rereading this made me think a bit: I think most people don't get that Vic is a fucking predator (in the best way possible). She's the one that approaches you on that fateful walk, and is striking up conversation with you, and is clearly interested despite your coldness. What happens derails things.

Later, yeah, she's in a bad way physically and emotionally, but still is ultra sweet to everyone unless she's melting down.

She is very socially forward, and has unapologetic interest in everyone and greets hostility with genuine friendliness. She's "soft" and "nice", but sexually interested and makes that plain. In the hangout, if you play it right and get the four-way makeout session (one of the hottest scenes in any AVN, fight me), she's the one that kicks it off!!!! I also don't get why people that call her fat. Only thing fat on her are her cheeks and breasts. She's petite, thin, and light (though in reality, those tits would weigh more than my thighs, and I am not small).

I also find it amusing that a girl named Summer looked more like a winter, while Vic looks very summery.

She's not fat, but she's not athletic either, especially compared to Zara or Bella, or better yet, compare her to Louise, the girl who was in the night street basketball game at the end of Chapter 5. Louise is also petite, but very fit.

The only scene where we see Vic completely naked, which crosses my mind - are those special renders with a collar and a condom. And there she has a sexy tummy, which Fabienne talked about to Butch in Pulp Fiction.

Spoiler: Vic

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I don't know how, but Ocean managed to make half of the renders with Vic absolutely unattractive to me, and half where I find her very attractive and a few where she's absolutely gorgeous. Overall, she's probably the most interesting character for me in terms of the plot, because it's unclear what her future role is in this whole story, and how she is/was connected to the MC (something in the past?). But she appears in almost all the events, one way or another. She's always somewhere nearby.

 

[Hobocop Harrier du bois]

She's not fat, but she's not athletic either, especially compared to Zara or Bella, or better yet, compare her to Louise, the girl who was in the night street basketball game at the end of Chapter 5. Louise is also petite, but very fit.

The only scene where we see Vic completely naked, which crosses my mind - are those special renders with a collar and a condom. And there she has a sexy tummy, which Fabienne talked about to Butch in Pulp Fiction.

Spoiler: Vic

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I don't know how, but Ocean managed to make half of the renders with Vic absolutely unattractive to me, and half where I find her very attractive and a few where she's absolutely gorgeous. Overall, she's probably the most interesting character for me in terms of the plot, because it's unclear what her future role is in this whole story, and how she is/was connected to the MC (something in the past?). But she appears in almost all the events, one way or another. She's always somewhere nearby.

Vic's a teddy bear. Cute, soft, warm, cuddly and you have to pick her up because she can't walk. She's perfect.

 

[RNasc4444]

Not getting into the debate about "Summer, Y/N" but this bit. It's a dream of someone who is traumatised by the elements of the dream.

Very fair. And I think we've discussed this before but the fact that this is how his traumatized brain portrays her raises even more red flags. If you love someone to the point of almost obsession, to the point you can't let her go, wouldn't your brain portray your idealized version of her?

His dream/nightmare portrayal of Summer matches the other tidbits we got of her personality though. Her agressive nature when Nami first brings her home and her assholish atittude in the icecream scene with Elsa and the MC.

Anyways I'm more concerned on how her future appearance will affect the story. I did once say (and fully maintain today) that Summer being alive and showing up in the future would be the single greatest detriment to this story there could possibly be.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

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yeah, and Summer`s frighteningly beautiful

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[RNasc4444]

She's not fat, but she's not athletic either

Problem is that it's hard to judge given the lack of consistency in Ocean's character models.

In the intro, right before her accident, she seems slimmer than in those renders. And it would make sense for her to gain some weight right after being confined to a wheelchair. Provided her appetite remains the same. That lack of mobility would result in less energy being spent therefore more fat being accumulated.

I think she's fairly attractive in most even though she has the single worst render in the entire freaking game.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Very fair. And I think we've discussed this before but the fact that this is how his traumatized brain portrays her raises even more red flags. If you love someone to the point of almost obsession, to the point you can't let her go, wouldn't your brain portray your idealized version of her?

His dream/nightmare portrayal of Summer matches the other tidbits we got of her personality though. Her agressive nature when Nami first brings her home and her assholish atittude in the icecream scene with Elsa and the MC.

Anyways I'm more concerned on how her future appearance will affect the story. I did once say (and fully maintain today) that Summer being alive and showing up in the future would be the single greatest detriment to this story there could possibly be.

I hate being out of reacts. I'll owe you one internet coffee cup of like.

Even the flashbacks are Nika's idealised/traumatised/avoidance memories, so even they could be false. But your point about Summer being aliv and returning... well I don't care if she's alive or dead, just that she should remain out of the story except for flashbacks. I mean if Ocean brings her back, the whole point of healing through a combination of choice and communal support is superceded by a monopoly get out of jail free card.

Nika should work through his trauma without Summer in my opinion, it's a stronger story. Much better if Summer does appear, that sh appears right at the end, in the bad ending, and Nika leaves with her Natural BOrn Killers style. Or She turns up at Nika's epilogue wedding, and he wonders who she is, turns around to look at his bride, and we never see Summer again, like passing ships.

Something non derivative. We've seen too many old flame/returning ex stories to even care. Her as a disruptor and her plot works better if it can't b solved in the game, and that can be its own game later.

 

[Don Sucio]

She's not fat, but she's not athletic either, especially compared to Zara or Bella, or better yet, compare her to Louise, the girl who was in the night street basketball game at the end of Chapter 5. Louise is also petite, but very fit.

The only scene where we see Vic completely naked, which crosses my mind - are those special renders with a collar and a condom. And there she has a sexy tummy, which Fabienne talked about to Butch in Pulp Fiction.

Spoiler: Vic

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I don't know how, but Ocean managed to make half of the renders with Vic absolutely unattractive to me, and half where I find her very attractive and a few where she's absolutely gorgeous. Overall, she's probably the most interesting character for me in terms of the plot, because it's unclear what her future role is in this whole story, and how she is/was connected to the MC (something in the past?). But she appears in almost all the events, one way or another. She's always somewhere nearby.

I´m not a fan of Vic but she is the one who can change Nika, i´m pretty sure. Her personality is the opposite to Nika, and she is really fucked up...

About her body, i think she is hot, there is this scene where Vic needs to pee and Nika helps her... For me, hot.
I usually prefer bodies like Zara or Bella, even Nami, but what can i say, i lke to grab some "meat" too while i fuck (sorry for the unnecessary information).

It´s her personality what i dislike , too childish for me... But it has its own charm too, i suppose.

Anyways I'm more concerned on how her future appearance will affect the story. I did once say (and fully maintain today) that Summer being alive and showing up in the future would be the single greatest detriment to this story there could possibly be.

I think Summer being back (and alive) would be logical if Ocean wants the MC to fight againts his demons agains, like some type of proof for his state of mind. And maybe make the player choose between continue with his path or maybe change things and get near to Summer.

I wouldn´t mind her being alive but i don´t care too much if she is dead.