VN Ren'Py Abandoned Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[BobTheDuck]

Nah man, i would really really hate these two variations.

I like summer and would like her coming back as a LI BUT imo it works best for the story if shes simply dead BUT (again) imo we missed that point in the story already. There would be no need to keep everything nebolous if she would just be dead and someone should have pointed it out.

Also Nia should be aware if she would have died realisticly.

And i entirely lack creativity how Summer will come back and why/where she is gone. It would be way easier if shes simply dead because otherwise Ocean would have to have a really coherent great plot about that in his sleeve. I cant see any reason which would realistically explain her abscence and NO WAY to make contact in our times while still giving her the possibility to come back easy peasy.

The only thing i could somehow vaguely imagine is that Summers family is closer to the Zane's and its somehow related to some kind of deal to keep Nika away from the Zane's. But in this case Noji would have to be the one enforcing the "deal" and i think she would feel way worse if her decision did lead to Nika's state and would proably have reverted it.

So yeah, i really like Summer, but in lack of good ideas of her being away and how to bring her back, i would vote for her being dead at this point

I just hope it wont turn out to be some shit like Nika is fully aware of everything (and everyone else too) and all this mystery is just for us viewers because Nika is suppressing his memorys ... uggh.

My scenarios weren't the best and were pretty tongue in cheek, more to point out that Summer hasn't been waiting out of sight, in the wings waiting to make her grand main stage debut ...necessarily. She could, but it don't think she needs to even if she is alive. These are just a couple of ways it could be retconned - we find out from Emilio what the ral score is, or we find out as AMber's therapy helps Nika be more honest and he reveals what he's been hiding in his memory, whether simply trauma of what he witnessed or whatever.

Nia doesn't need to know, because if Summer survived, Nia could still find Summer's house and ask her parents. Or find out from the new people living in the house that the old owners moved interstate or whatever. Summer was just as important to Nia in many ways as Summer was to Nika - in some ways more, as Nia didn't have friends and Nika always had Nami.

But yeah, just throwing out ideas while we wait to see. Ocean'll do his story regardless of what I think about Summer anyway, she's important to him for the plot, so I guess she's one of the more detailed plot plans Ocean's cooked up

 

[Don Sucio]

Ah, I know Ocean can do things like that, and he'll do them well enough ...but how commonplace is that scenario in AVN's already? I'd love to find out things like:

- Nika got too handsy, and Summer told her parents, Summer hates Nika now, and the parents give in because SHE want's to move far far away (I know it's not likely);
- or we see more and more flashbacks, until we find out exactly what happened to Summer that Nika's blocking out.

I find out those two interesting.

The first one would be wild, i mean, Nika would be the bad guy, something like harassment or abuse? It could have been interesting in old SG, but don´t you think maybe is too much for the new SG, too much dark?
Anyway i would be happy with something like Nika being the cause of her escape.

The second one is the most plausible for me, i think Ocean is going to bring back Summer at some point and Nika will continue having flashback revealing step by step what happened.

I don´t know how capable is Ocean, i know he is good, for me one of the best in this VN world, but how good is he actually? I have my expectations really up, he is doing all i want in a VN right now but i think if he is going to "screw it up" at some point is going to be with this Summer thing. I hope i´m wrong but we will see.

What i really need to know asap is the violent incident, i think that would reveal so many things, and i need it because i have always suspected from Nami or her implication somehow.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I find out those two interesting.

The first one would be wild, i mean, Nika would be the bad guy, something like harassment or abuse? It could have been interesting in old SG, but don´t you think maybe is too much for the new SG, too much dark?
Anyway i would be happy with something like Nika being the cause of her escape.

The second one is the most plausible for me, i think Ocean is going to bring back Summer at some point and Nika will continue having flashback revealing step by step what happened.

I don´t know how capable is Ocean, i know he is good, for me one of the best in this VN world, but how good is he actually? I have my expectations really up, he is doing all i want in a VN right now but i think if he is going to "screw it up" at some point is going to be with this Summer thing. I hope i´m wrong but we will see.

What i really need to know asap is the violent incident, i think that would reveal so many things, and i need it because i have always suspected from Nami or her implication somehow.

I think as time goes on SG will have some darker stuff, I mean Bella did do a hit and run, Melanie attempted to murder Vic as a kid, whatever Nami did and the violent incident was also are going to be dark. I think the no dark path is more that there is no path where Nika becomes one with the dark side. It's his story of redemption from over thinking and over feeling, not the story of how he breaks anyone. So dark themes will still be present, just not choices moving away from healing. That's how I understand it anyway. There will be tension, not everything will be hadpats and handholding.

So if that's true, there can still be some disturbing things other than Seigbert.

Capability we'll find out. While the story keeps us interested, he's doing it well, that's the only real criteria for me.

I don't think we'll find out about the violent incident too quickly. A reval like that will tell too much, Nika will make us work for that knowledge

 

[Don Sucio]

I think as time goes on SG will have some darker stuff, I mean Bella did do a hit and run, Melanie attempted to murder Vic as a kid, whatever Nami did and the violent incident was also are going to be dark. I think the no dark path is more that there is no path where Nika becomes one with the dark side. It's his story of redemption from over thinking and over feeling, not the story of how he breaks anyone. So dark themes will still be present, just not choices moving away from healing. That's how I understand it anyway. There will be tension, not everything will be hadpats and handholding.

So if that's true, there can still be some disturbing things other than Seigbert.

Capability we'll find out. While the story keeps us interested, he's doing it well, that's the only real criteria for me.

I don't think we'll find out about the violent incident too quickly. A reval like that will tell too much, Nika will make us work for that knowledge

I´m with you, yeah.

I can wait some more years before finding out what happened in the violent incident . But i think it could be revealed between season 2 or 3, maybe 3 or 4? (I don´t remember how many seasons is going to have the game).

About the dark path i have said so many times that i always have been a fan of dark paths, i enjoy being the "bad boy", freedom in games are the best. But i understand why Ocean decided to retire that path, the story is (imo) better with a redemption arc, more emotions.

But i think is still viable to be a little dark, for example take revenge on certains characters or maybe line up with bad characters like that girl who is bad and Bella´s enemy (i don´t remember her name, maybe Cerill, Melani? ). There may be options where Nika is bad buuut is still healing, or at least i hope so. I want to see some fetishes that maybe are "dark", like femdom (Veronica?), peggind (Maja?) and that stuff, i think those fetishes fit better in a "dark" path, and of course those situations where the MC lose, like that time when Zara and Nadia(?) lock up Nika in the locker room , that scene was very hot imo but at the end nothing happened, i would be happy with more of that but with a proper ending . Is good too imo to have some situations where Nika lose, after all he is not Superman and i think makes him more real.

Buuuut, as always Ocean has the answers we are looking for.

 

[Hobocop Harrier du bois]

I´m with you, yeah.

I can wait some more years before finding out what happened in the violent incident . But i think it could be revealed between season 2 or 3, maybe 3 or 4? (I don´t remember how many seasons is going to have the game).

About the dark path i have said so many times that i always have been a fan of dark paths, i enjoy being the "bad boy", freedom in games are the best. But i understand why Ocean decided to retire that path, the story is (imo) better with a redemption arc, more emotions.

But i think is still viable to be a little dark, for example take revenge on certains characters or maybe line up with bad characters like that girl who is bad and Bella´s enemy (i don´t remember her name, maybe Cerill, Melani? ). There may be options where Nika is bad buuut is still healing, or at least i hope so. I want to see some fetishes that maybe are "dark", like femdom (Veronica?), peggind (Maja?) and that stuff, i think those fetishes fit better in a "dark" path, and of course those situations where the MC lose, like that time when Zara and Nadia(?) lock up Nika in the locker room , that scene was very hot imo but at the end nothing happened, i would be happy with more of that but with a proper ending . Is good too imo to have some situations where Nika lose, after all he is not Superman and i think makes him more real.

Buuuut, as always Ocean has the answers we are looking for.

Maja sadly isn't an LI. Ocean has confirmed this. At best you'll get some booba and ass shots i guess.

 

[Mamaragan]

I think as time goes on SG will have some darker stuff, I mean Bella did do a hit and run, Melanie attempted to murder Vic as a kid, whatever Nami did and the violent incident was also are going to be dark. I think the no dark path is more that there is no path where Nika becomes one with the dark side. It's his story of redemption from over thinking and over feeling, not the story of how he breaks anyone. So dark themes will still be present, just not choices moving away from healing. That's how I understand it anyway. There will be tension, not everything will be hadpats and handholding.

So if that's true, there can still be some disturbing things other than Seigbert.

Capability we'll find out. While the story keeps us interested, he's doing it well, that's the only real criteria for me.

I don't think we'll find out about the violent incident too quickly. A reval like that will tell too much, Nika will make us work for that knowledge

I don't think sg will have darker scenes. Ocean really made it clear when he deleted the gun scene. The game will have, I think, some adult themed scenes, and I don't mean the sexual kind. But actual dark shit like the OG game was supposed to have? Nah. I think that's reserved for WIAB.

 

[Don Sucio]

Maja sadly isn't an LI. Ocean has confirmed this. At best you'll get some booba and ass shots i guess.

Oh, I know!

If i´m not wrong Maja would be lewdable, maybe some sex scene before she understands what she is doing and blah blah blah. I think it´s still possible to have some fun with her, just not like a couple or something extendable to all the story.

If i´m not wrong something similar can happen with Amber. I´m replaying the game now so there are soo many thing i have forgotten.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I´m with you, yeah.

I can wait some more years before finding out what happened in the violent incident . But i think it could be revealed between season 2 or 3, maybe 3 or 4? (I don´t remember how many seasons is going to have the game).

About the dark path i have said so many times that i always have been a fan of dark paths, i enjoy being the "bad boy", freedom in games are the best. But i understand why Ocean decided to retire that path, the story is (imo) better with a redemption arc, more emotions.

But i think is still viable to be a little dark, for example take revenge on certains characters or maybe line up with bad characters like that girl who is bad and Bella´s enemy (i don´t remember her name, maybe Cerill, Melani? ). There may be options where Nika is bad buuut is still healing, or at least i hope so. I want to see some fetishes that maybe are "dark", like femdom (Veronica?), peggind (Maja?) and that stuff, i think those fetishes fit better in a "dark" path, and of course those situations where the MC lose, like that time when Zara and Nadia(?) lock up Nika in the locker room , that scene was very hot imo but at the end nothing happened, i would be happy with more of that but with a proper ending . Is good too imo to have some situations where Nika lose, after all he is not Superman and i think makes him more real.

Buuuut, as always Ocean has the answers we are looking for.

Well, as I say, we've still got Nika getting into fights, he'll go to train with Ayua for what if there are no other fights? I can imagine the scene with those two idiot racers getting violent next time he meets them. No one's pushed Nika's buttons yet either, but we saw he wants to get serious when Zara/Robin/Nadia used Nami as a lure. So someone will use his emotions against him at some point and he'll lash out. It won't dark enough to glorify violence (and I'm glad of that personally), but there will be teeth. Vanessa we already know can be dangerous in some way from the way she talks about "Miss Steiner" - that was pretty threatening, asserting dominance. And Maja having a shibari fetish ...why would we need to know that specifically where we've already seen the box of toys unless it's there? Then we've got the stuff with Bella's sister and dad. That won't be happy. So there will be dark ideas and events, but it won't be RE (as funny as that would be for at least 5 min).

I don't think sg will have darker scenes. Ocean really made it clear when he deleted the gun scene. The game will have, I think, some adult themed scenes, and I don't mean the sexual kind. But actual dark shit like the OG game was supposed to have? Nah. I think that's reserved for WIAB.

The dark path not being present is different to whether there will be further trauma for NIka to process. If there's no further trauma, he's just in cotton wool, he hasn't healed. Ocean took away the gun scene, but left a gun on Bella's desk. There has to be implications of consequence. The original dark path was Nika being abusive. So remove the abusive part, there can still be really dark moments, like what we know about Melanie attempting murder. I think the dark moments won't be that dark, but there will be some serious fights I imagine, especially as Bella's already done one hit and run, and Marla's done the hit. We can have more of that easily. But it won't be the main direction, otherwise it won't be about healing. Just enough seriousness to show Nika developing life skills and fortitude when Maja ties him up maybe?

 

[Mamaragan]

Well, as I say, we've still got Nika getting into fights, he'll go to train with Ayua for what if there are no other fights? I can imagine the scene with those two idiot racers getting violent next time he meets them. No one's pushed Nika's buttons yet either, but we saw he wants to get serious when Zara/Robin/Nadia used Nami as a lure. So someone will use his emotions against him at some point and he'll lash out. It won't dark enough to glorify violence (and I'm glad of that personally), but there will be teeth. Vanessa we already know can be dangerous in some way from the way she talks about "Miss Steiner" - that was pretty threatening, asserting dominance. And Maja having a shibari fetish ...why would we need to know that specifically where we've already seen the box of toys unless it's there? Then we've got the stuff with Bella's sister and dad. That won't be happy. So there will be dark ideas and events, but it won't be RE (as funny as that would be for at least 5 min).



The dark path not being present is different to whether there will be further trauma for NIka to process. If there's no further trauma, he's just in cotton wool, he hasn't healed. Ocean took away the gun scene, but left a gun on Bella's desk. There has to be implications of consequence. The original dark path was Nika being abusive. So remove the abusive part, there can still be really dark moments, like what we know about Melanie attempting murder. I think the dark moments won't be that dark, but there will be some serious fights I imagine, especially as Bella's already done one hit and run, and Marla's done the hit. We can have more of that easily. But it won't be the main direction, otherwise it won't be about healing. Just enough seriousness to show Nika developing life skills and fortitude when Maja ties him up maybe?

Maybe it's an issue about how we interpret words. Because everything you said, I don't consider it dark elements. Just adult themes. Bella's gun presence has no dark undertone, unless she suddenly tells you she shot someone, or trying to kill herself with it. The "hit and run" from Bella is more comical and vindictive than "dark". She didn't crush him under her wheel and left this clown crippled for life.

Melanie supposed attempted murder is just a story we hear from Vic, there's no flashback showing us. It's just there to establish her as the sociopathic antagonist.

Since the game is about healing, we'll be encouraged moving from anything considered "dark". This is why I don't think dark stuff are going to be present the way we think.

There will be adult themes like:
Cheating, Rivalry with other colleges that was hinted could turn nasty, the illegal races, the secrets surrounding MC, the book club, Ceril, bullying ect...

But dark stuff like rape, murder, humiliation, blackmail, death, is unlikely imo.

 

[KrusherKev]

Amber doesn't need to be a now and forever kinda love interest, she's hot now and will be an interesting lewdable character if nothing else. Maja however, she needs to be full on eventual love interest, MC hitting that only a few times would be such a waste of a hottie

 

[BobTheDuck]

Maybe it's an issue about how we interpret words. Because everything you said, I don't consider it dark elements. Just adult themes. Bella's gun presence has no dark undertone, unless she suddenly tells you she shot someone, or trying to kill herself with it. The "hit and run" from Bella is more comical and vindictive than "dark". She didn't crush him under her wheel and left this clown crippled for life.

Melanie supposed attempted murder is just a story we hear from Vic, there's no flashback showing us. It's just there to establish her as the sociopathic antagonist.

Since the game is about healing, we'll be encouraged moving from anything considered "dark". This is why I don't think dark stuff are going to be present the way we think.

There will be adult themes like:
Cheating, Rivalry with other colleges that was hinted could turn nasty, the illegal races, the secrets surrounding MC, the book club, Ceril, bullying ect...

But dark stuff like rape, murder, humiliation, blackmail, death, is unlikely imo.

Yeah, in that sense I don't expect (or personally want) things like rape or blackmail. Until we know what happened to summer though, murder or death aren't ruled out. We still have Emilio present.

Th fact that a hit and run can be considered comical (I personally saw it as a moment which could easily have gotten dark) shows that th focus even in darker themes will be on the surviving trauma aspect, naturally. But I hold to the point that we only know healing because there was a wound that's become a scar, and we only know a broken leg has healed once we can run again. So the dark path is gone, but there will need to be darker elements even if some (like breaking and entering) are seen as a joke rather than taken seriously. I'd love for there to be serious consequences for little things like that, simply because choices should have an impact, not just be different flavours.

So I think you're right - we're mostly agreeing, we just use different degrees to measure.

Amber doesn't need to be a now and forever kinda love interest, she's hot now and will be an interesting lewdable character if nothing else. Maja however, she needs to be full on eventual love interest, MC hitting that only a few times would be such a waste of a hottie

As much as I'd love that to be the case, Vic is really in our way

 

[Don Sucio]

Maybe it's an issue about how we interpret words. Because everything you said, I don't consider it dark elements. Just adult themes. Bella's gun presence has no dark undertone, unless she suddenly tells you she shot someone, or trying to kill herself with it. The "hit and run" from Bella is more comical and vindictive than "dark". She didn't crush him under her wheel and left this clown crippled for life.

Melanie supposed attempted murder is just a story we hear from Vic, there's no flashback showing us. It's just there to establish her as the sociopathic antagonist.

Since the game is about healing, we'll be encouraged moving from anything considered "dark". This is why I don't think dark stuff are going to be present the way we think.

There will be adult themes like:
Cheating, Rivalry with other colleges that was hinted could turn nasty, the illegal races, the secrets surrounding MC, the book club, Ceril, bullying ect...

But dark stuff like rape, murder, humiliation, blackmail, death, is unlikely imo.

Well, some things like rape or murder i´m pretty sure there aren´t going to be in this game too, but if we look to the humiliation thing we already have some scenes, for example Nika tied up in the locker room , at least for me is humiliating... Who knows if we end up in other similar situation, for example if Nika makes Vanessa angry who know what can happen, or maybe if Nika starts dating Zara or Bella and he ends up cheating on them... Maybe some type of revenge could exits, even if is just some thing like a false rumor spreading about Nika as a revenge or i don´t know, i think those things are humiliating too, would be better imo if humiliation appears in some sex scene, of course... But i don´t think that is in Ocean´s mind.

Anyway i think is really easy to satisfy those things, for example: Maja tied up Nika and she makes fun of him while she is putting a big dildo inside his... Okay, too much, but you know what i mean. In this situation Nika has agreed to do that and is just the "spice" in the moment that makes this humiliation thing appear. I don´t know, i doubt this is going to happen like i would like but i choose to believe in it for now

 

[Dr.TSoni]

As much as I'd love that to be the case, Vic is really in our way

Okay, but then don't say I never do anything for you.

 

[Penfold Mole]

Okay, but then don't say I never do anything for you.
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Wait-wait-wait-wait! I don't think it's the duck hunting season yet. I mean, it's spring!

Bob, run! ...that is, fly!?

 

[Hobocop Harrier du bois]

Okay, but then don't say I never do anything for you.
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[lukas7533]

So how does it look like release wise ? I dont have time to skim through couple thousand of pages to get that info..

 

[yossa999]

So how does it look like release wise ? I dont have time to skim through couple thousand of pages to get that info..

This game is not at all suitable for busy people. Everything happens without a hurry there, including releases.

 

[NoDeEvA]

Well, have been playing this one for the past few days, and yeah, it definitely is the best one I have ever played. Not really a problem regarding that there are no sex scenes, the story is entertaining and intriguing enough to carry the game. The graphics are the best ones I have seen in an AVN, by far, and the models are fantastic, some of them REALLY gorgeous.

No wonder Bella is insanely popular, she is quite the character (and hot obviously). Complex and interesting, the kind of girl that after you go through her initial barriers becomes a ride or die as long as you don't betray her trust. Definitely my favorite, but also surprised about Zara and how she rose in the last chapters, didn't expect her to be one of the main girls and get such focus, but a likeable one who also has her layers and would love to know more about. While I don't expect this game to be a harem one, would be great to know the rest of the characters in a deep level, even if as friends. MC is a bitch, but honestly, a lot of 18 year olds are. And his evolution is great, trying to escape his depression and opening up to the world, giving such an emotional aspect to the game that in my opinion is one of its catching aspects. Nami is great too, with a peculiar personality that makes her stand up. Lot of nice characters honestly (and models) like the mysterious Sasha, the "too nice that seems sketchy" Robin and bondage-loving Maja, among a bunch of other ones that I would take forever speaking about.

Interesting last chapter, opening the story with a lot more of intrigue and misteries that would love to get to know. But there goes kind of my problem with the game: it is 6 years old (or at least the thread is) and so far we only have Season 1 completed, with 5 chapters of what I read would be 32? This is what, a chapter per year? Will it even be finished, considering life has a way to get between? Or will this just be the ASOIAF of AVN's? Potential to be the greatest, but holy shit, it is too far away to see completition.

Anyway, I'm sure that what I have written isn't something that hasn't been discussed before considering this has 2373 pages by the time, but I needed to share (some) of my thoughts upon finalizing it.

 

[Don Sucio]

Well, have been playing this one for the past few days, and yeah, it definitely is the best one I have ever played. Not really a problem regarding that there are no sex scenes, the story is entertaining and intriguing enough to carry the game. The graphics are the best ones I have seen in an AVN, by far, and the models are fantastic, some of them REALLY gorgeous.

No wonder Bella is insanely popular, she is quite the character (and hot obviously). Complex and interesting, the kind of girl that after you go through her initial barriers becomes a ride or die as long as you don't betray her trust. Definitely my favorite, but also surprised about Zara and how she rose in the last chapters, didn't expect her to be one of the main girls and get such focus, but a likeable one who also has her layers and would love to know more about. While I don't expect this game to be a harem one, would be great to know the rest of the characters in a deep level, even if as friends. MC is a bitch, but honestly, a lot of 18 year olds are. And his evolution is great, trying to escape his depression and opening up to the world, giving such an emotional aspect to the game that in my opinion is one of its catching aspects. Nami is great too, with a peculiar personality that makes her stand up. Lot of nice characters honestly (and models) like the mysterious Sasha, the "too nice that seems sketchy" Robin and bondage-loving Maja, among a bunch of other ones that I would take forever speaking about.

Interesting last chapter, opening the story with a lot more of intrigue and misteries that would love to get to know. But there goes kind of my problem with the game: it is 6 years old (or at least the thread is) and so far we only have Season 1 completed, with 5 chapters of what I read would be 32? This is what, a chapter per year? Will it even be finished, considering life has a way to get between? Or will this just be the ASOIAF of AVN's? Potential to be the greatest, but holy shit, it is too far away to see completition.

Anyway, I'm sure that what I have written isn't something that hasn't been discussed before considering this has 2373 pages by the time, but I needed to share (some) of my thoughts upon finalizing it.

Really happy to know you have enjoyed the game. About the seasons, chapters and releases... Well, there are people here who can tell you better about it, but this game if my mind doesn´t fail was developed by two people, one of them left and then the project was taken only by Ocean. He has been working alone all this time (i think he continues being alone) and the first season "suffered" a remake, or if i´m wrong and it wasn´t the whole season then there were several chapters affected, this things spend soooo many time.

Yes, i know what you are thinking, 6 YEARS FOR THAT??? Indeed, there have been others problems related with Patreon, Steam and other music rights and that stuff, and Ocean is very fussy with his work, is perfect or he doesn´t stop (not a bad thing for me).

We have too the renders he makes like specials gifts for special holidays and those things.

I have said all i remember about why the project is really slow, even the first chapter of the season 2 is going to be massive, around 6.000 renders (more or less). One chapter for year is the objetive i think, or at least, i hope so, is slow, but very good stuff (imo).

That´s all i can say, i´m pretty sure other people here is better informed but i wanted to contribute

 

[Ronaldweasley 979]

Are there any sex scenes in the latest update?