VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[`Ray`]

Hey Guys, sorry to hear about what happened here...

As a result, I have created an Off-topic thread for Summer's Gone. Other Popular games have one too.

Do the On-topic discussion here and the Off-topic discussion there (Waifu Wars, Anything else).

Link:- https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-off-topic-discussion.112868/


redknight00 Hope you can add the link to the off-topic thread on the OP.

Thanks

 

[forthewins]

And we're also just out of the introduction (Ch3) and the first big differences are starting to form.

So we're three years into the development of the game, and by your own admission we're just out of the introduction. Assuming an introduction is typically 1/6th of the game at most, we're on track for a completed game around 2037?

 

[Joshuam303]

when is chapter 4 getting released?

 

[phacer]

so, no more off topics but we still got this kind of messages complaining about the game, great.

 

[forthewins]

so, no more off topics but we still got this kind of messages complaining about the game, great.

I'm not complaining about the game, but I'm genuinely very worried about the development. If it's going to continue to be 8 months and then a small update, then 8 months+ and a small update expecting the game to be finished in 15 years is actually a rather optimistic expectation.

And if that's the plan I'd prefer to know now and not get anymore emotionally invested in its development than I already am. Because I have really liked the game so far.

 

[Razrback16]

I'm not complaining about the game, but I'm genuinely very worried about the development. If it's going to continue to be 8 months and then a small update, then 8 months+ and a small update expecting the game to be finished in 15 years is actually a rather optimistic expectation.

And if that's the plan I'd prefer to know now and not get anymore emotionally invested in its development than I already am. Because I have really liked the game so far.

Ya I think dev speed for this game is at the top of the list for a lot of people in terms of concerns since it's projected to be around 30 chapters in length. I welcome the longer story for far better immersion and character / narrative development, but as so many have noted, the projected pace is literally ~10-20 years at this rate to completion.

Bright side is that it seems Ocean has made some efficiency tweaks to his processes and hopefully that will lead to quicker chapter releases. The key to watch here, will be the Chapter 4 to Chapter 4.5 dev window in terms of time. If it continues to be significantly long, then yeah, I can see why some folks might just start checking out.

 

[rerderrum]

I'm not complaining about the game, but I'm genuinely very worried about the development. If it's going to continue to be 8 months and then a small update, then 8 months+ and a small update expecting the game to be finished in 15 years is actually a rather optimistic expectation.

And if that's the plan I'd prefer to know now and not get anymore emotionally invested in its development than I already am. Because I have really liked the game so far.

Just one thing, next update will have >2000 stills and probably an absurd amount of animation renders with a quality not a single dev I know can provide and that in less then 8 months. That's a small update? Cmon. Ocean stated he did over 100 renders one day in Feburary... I know someone working with Blender in his job who got a BA and he isn't that fast.
Edit: Pls no thread ban

 

[AngelsAfterDark]

Just one thing, next update will have >2000 stills and probably an absurd amount of animation renders with a quality not a single dev I know can provide and that in less then 8 months. That's a small update? Cmon. Ocean stated he did over 100 renders one day in Feburary... I know someone working with Blender in his job who got a BA and he isn't that fast.
Edit: Pls no thread ban

See for me the problem here is that yes Ocean brings the best quality to the table I can't stress that enough but between the last update and this upcoming one I don't think much will happen. the last update was like 70% basketball and I'm assuming ch 4 will be more focused on the fantasy game. All of that is nice dont get me wrong but it doesn't work when the game only have 1 or 2 updates a year, at this point we want to see the story unfold but having to wait a year just to see the MC play basketball or a fantasy game.. It sucks honestly and that drags the main story development. I love everything Ocean is doing with the game and all the side stuff like Bball and the fantasy stuff would be really enjoyable if the updates were more frequent so we could get the story going as well but seeing as that is not the case I'd rather do without it and have the game focus solely on character and story development.

 

[Ragnar]

See for me the problem here is that yes Ocean brings the best quality to the table I can't stress that enough but between the last update and this upcoming one I don't think much will happen. the last update was like 70% basketball and I'm assuming ch 4 will be more focused on the fantasy game. All of that is nice dont get me wrong but it doesn't work when the game only have 1 or 2 updates a year, at this point we want to see the story unfold but having to wait a year just to see the MC play basketball or a fantasy game.. It sucks honestly and that drags the main story development. I love everything Ocean is doing with the game and all the side stuff like Bball and the fantasy stuff would be really enjoyable if the updates were more frequent so we could get the story going as well but seeing as that is not the case I'd rather do without it and have the game focus solely on character and story development.

Yes, try the new College themed game from VinovellaGames. Just two updates in one month and already has mistery, missing people, sex scenes, strange cults, whatever you want. Ocean makes some good looking babes don't get me wrong but the pacing is glacial both in game and irl.

 

[RolandG.]

See for me the problem here is that yes Ocean brings the best quality to the table I can't stress that enough but between the last update and this upcoming one I don't think much will happen. the last update was like 70% basketball and I'm assuming ch 4 will be more focused on the fantasy game. All of that is nice dont get me wrong but it doesn't work when the game only have 1 or 2 updates a year, at this point we want to see the story unfold but having to wait a year just to see the MC play basketball or a fantasy game.. It sucks honestly and that drags the main story development. I love everything Ocean is doing with the game and all the side stuff like Bball and the fantasy stuff would be really enjoyable if the updates were more frequent so we could get the story going as well but seeing as that is not the case I'd rather do without it and have the game focus solely on character and story development.

The very high quality of the work that Ocean delivers here is of course one reason why the updates are a long time coming.
As I understand it, Ocean is also always working on his other game.

I think that is the main reason for the long wait.
In my opinion it would have been smarter to finish one game after the other, but that's up to him.

I think it's all the little stories like the gym class or the planned fantasy game that make the story as a whole so interesting.
I would not like to do without all these side stories, for me they simply belong to it, with them the story and the individual characters live and grow.

I can only hope that Ocean never loses his motivation and continues to work on his game, even if I fear that it will take years to complete.

 

[G27111]

anything can change with development though, more people could come in and support which could make a dev hire people to help or upgrade their system to do more.. thats why when you use previous update speed as a reference it doesnt really work or make sense.

he showed some numbers in his other game thread the other day which shows his speed has increased. Story wise a lot can happen or change in just one chapter, big events can happen which speed up some character development and things like that, im not worried about it.

 

[Razrback16]

As I understand it, Ocean is also always working on his other game.

I think that is the main reason for the long wait.
In my opinion it would have been smarter to finish one game after the other, but that's up to him.

Ya I have said the same in the past - this is one of the key reasons I only back to a certain level on Patreon since I know only half the work time is going into SG. My understanding is that he spends one day working on Summer's Gone, and then the next working on Where It All Began, and back and forth, etc. All we can hope is that his workflow improvements net some very noticeable speed increases in terms of releases.

And he is subcontracting some of the work (like the aforementioned sports arena that Wibble created for him) so that's good to see.

Like others have mentioned, I'm really excited about the size & scope of the game with all the characters, social apps otw, etc, it's just negatively offset by the dev time between chapters up to this point.

 

[AngelsAfterDark]

Yes, try the new College themed game from VinovellaGames. Just two updates in one month and already has mistery, missing people, sex scenes, strange cults, whatever you want. Ocean makes some good looking babes don't get me wrong but the pacing is glacial both in game and irl.

I saw this one pop up a few weeks ago, I didn't care much for it because I played the devs other game fetish locator and I wasn't a fan, it felt like a straight up porn game and that's not my kinda thing.

 

[Mortarion]

If it's going to continue to be 8 months and then a small update, then 8 months+ and a small update expecting the game to be finished in 15 years is actually a rather optimistic expectation.

Ocean has never released "small" updates.

 

[AngelsAfterDark]

The very high quality of the work that Ocean delivers here is of course one reason why the updates are a long time coming.
As I understand it, Ocean is also always working on his other game.

I think that is the main reason for the long wait.
In my opinion it would have been smarter to finish one game after the other, but that's up to him.

I think it's all the little stories like the gym class or the planned fantasy game that make the story as a whole so interesting.
I would not like to do without all these side stories, for me they simply belong to it, with them the story and the individual characters live and grow.

I can only hope that Ocean never loses his motivation and continues to work on his game, even if I fear that it will take years to complete.

I agree I wouldn't want the game to be any different than it is. when this game is set and done all those side stuff like Basketball, fantasy role playing and whatever else Ocean has in store will be great and a nice little break from the main story. But we not even sure if we'll ever get to the finishing line so with that uncertainty I'd prefer the game solely focus on the story. Once again I love the side stuff but with only 1 update a year it's just not worth it, at least not for me.

But it doesn't matter cause at the end of the day it's Oceans game and he can do whatever he wants with it.

 

[forthewins]

Ocean has never released "small" updates.

I played the game in one go up until the last update, and was excited about it. Then I waited for months for that update and was disappointed by how little it moved the plot moved forward. So you can call it whatever you want, but to me it felt like a small update.

And considering that's now the only update that's been released in the past year and a half, that's kind of crazy.

 

[TonyMo]

I played the game in one go up until the last update, and was excited about it. Then I waited for months for that update and was disappointed by how little it moved the plot moved forward. So you can call it whatever you want, but to me it felt like a small update.

And considering that's now the only update that's been released in the past year and a half, that's kind of crazy.

Wasn't that rework of Chapter One ?

 

[Fortuna ღ]

I played the game in one go up until the last update, and was excited about it. Then I waited for months for that update and was disappointed by how little it moved the plot moved forward. So you can call it whatever you want, but to me it felt like a small update.

And considering that's now the only update that's been released in the past year and a half, that's kind of crazy.

The updates objectively aren't small. It doesn't matter whether or not you look at the render count, animations, or actual story being brought forth. None of them were small in quantity. The fact that it took you little time to complete it does not make it short. Also, while on the topic, what does a normal update look like for you? Summer's Gone right now is larger than a fair amount of games on this site, despite still being in its introductory stages. Ocean's doing a great job with what he has. I don't think many of you understand just how crazy it is that Ocean's bringing out updates to a game of this quality in just 6-8 months. Do you know just how hard it is to develop an AVN? Much less something on the level of Summer's Gone. Please keep in mind that he does most of this work himself the next time you're frustrated about development times

 

[Dr. Average]

I have every faith in Ocean. The quality of the presentation that he delivers as a singular person is uncanny as Lady Fortuna mentioned. That level could only be described by a person who is driven by such a high level of admiration, passion and talent. I see many people talk about how he's going to end up dropping these projects, but me personally playing his VNs...it's filled with love. He's only getting stronger in my eyes.

 

[LostGhost]

Y'all keep forgetting he's working on 2 games + with quality he's making it sure drags the update time and it's not like people are going to stop playing because the update is taking time

The very high quality of the work that Ocean delivers here is of course one reason why the updates are a long time coming.
As I understand it, Ocean is also always working on his other game.

I think that is the main reason for the long wait.
In my opinion it would have been smarter to finish one game after the other, but that's up to him.

I think it's all the little stories like the gym class or the planned fantasy game that make the story as a whole so interesting.
I would not like to do without all these side stories, for me they simply belong to it, with them the story and the individual characters live and grow.

I can only hope that Ocean never loses his motivation and continues to work on his game, even if I fear that it will take years to complete.

You know it will take same amount of delay for one game