Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.4468] [Kompas Productions]

[Username7]

The decision may have been made at the beginning of the year but that wasn't when coding stalled. Coding stalled back in September of last year. Coding has been stuck at 69% since at least last october (there is a pic of the progress, from then, somewhere back in the morass that is this thread). My question is, why has the coding stalled? Because only patreon subs can see the progress reports we do not have a clear idea of what has been going on. Being a coder myself I do not see a reason why the coding stopped. If they made a decision to roll out the updates in small bits you'd think they would have started that back when the coding came to a halt in order to start debugging.

Interesting because my posts here #73,284 and here #73,564 would say otherwise, I do apologize for the lack of screenshots with the second you'll just have to take my word on that, just because percentage doesn't move doesn't mean task aren't getting done case in point this month they've closed out 5 posing task yet the needle hasn't moved much I greyed out the older task.

 

[meh1995]

That's not a shadowban. That's a regular ban. A shadowban is a ban someone doesn't notice, like when you just get removed from searchs on Xitter.

I mean, most of the other users didn't notice it, including myself at first. I genuinely thought people just left.

 

[meh1995]

I'm curious, as I see a lot of people complaining about this thread/game not receiving an "abandoned" tag. How does the tag affect the games development? It's not as if there will be any monetary decline if/when it gets the tag, right? Or am I missing something here?

Depends on the game. Some people usually won't try a game marked as abandoned, because you'll only get a half-assed experience that isn't finished, or worse, a promising game that doesn't have any more activity.

STS case is special, though, I genuinely believe this is a "too big to fall" sort of scenario. That being said, marking games without updates as abandoned IS part of the site's rules, so it is unfair that some games are marked as abandoned, while this one isn't. I bet it doesn't have anything to do with the fact that some mods here also work for DC.

 

[Senigata]

I mean, most of the other users didn't notice it, including myself at first. I genuinely thought people just left.

Well, a shadowban in Discord's case would have the person still be part of the server, but their posts cannot be seen. So in this case, it's just a sneaky standard ban that just doesn't get announced.

 

[meh1995]

Well, a shadowban in Discord's case would have the person still be part of the server, but their posts cannot be seen. So in this case, it's just a sneaky standard ban that just doesn't get announced.

Sure. Still a pretty despicable practice, though.

 

[McSlut]

I'm curious, as I see a lot of people complaining about this thread/game not receiving an "abandoned" tag. How does the tag affect the games development? It's not as if there will be any monetary decline if/when it gets the tag, right? Or am I missing something here? Also some poeple said that DC is pushing an update because of the possiblity of the tag.

 

[Senigata]

Sure. Still a pretty despicable practice, though.

Never said it wasn't. Blocking or banning someone just out of sheer disagreement is the coward's way out. It's why I always chuckle when someone on here greatly announces they blocking someone. As if that doesn't make them look like cucks who can't make a proper argument.

 

[phoenixman123]

For what i understand first update will tiny, about 2 scenes at most, he will be releasing the game by the same size update every 2-3 months, i mean people waiting years for it to be released like this and the excuse its for testing for bugs.

I read the notice as both updated Debbie and Jenny routes in full. I guess once it’s eventually out we can get an insight into what we’ll actually be getting in the updates and will know what to expect next.

 

[jaaazzzooo]

STS case is special, though, I genuinely believe this is a "too big to fall" sort of scenario. That being said, marking games without updates as abandoned IS part of the site's rules, so it is unfair that some games are marked as abandoned, while this one isn't. I bet it doesn't have anything to do with the fact that some mods here also work for DC.

Sure I agree with the point of enforcing equal rules for everyone.
But poeple saying that DC is pushing the update because of this tag is a huge cope imho.

 

[McSlut]

dude i'm legit sad about this whole thing. i miss the times when i actually got excited about this game with the people on here, i remember the good times with the teacher update, the roxxy update, the eve update and so on. where did it go so wrong? DC should have just canceled the dating systema and all this other pie in the sky shit, kept the original resolution and shitty code and just finished the last couple updates: judith, annie, rhonda, a remake of the mia update, sex club library (we would have gotten those by now) and then started a new project. where did it all go so wrong? it's been going downhill even before the tech update with the pretty underwhelming main story updates tbh

 

[Senigata]

I read the notice as both updated Debbie and Jenny routes in full. I guess once it’s eventually out we can get an insight into what we’ll actually be getting in the updates and will know what to expect next.

Read it like that, too. Like they're releasing each finished story in pieces, with the 'house' stories being the first done upon release. So Debbie and Jenny. Which, I guess many people actually only care about because incest.

 

[Username7]

Holy shit I've been reading the Discord and how the fuck did Dogeek keep his job as long as he did. Apparently on top of being an unlikable cunt to everyone. He named a bunch of variables "booger aids" and never left any comments on any of his work while also doing everything as stupidly complex as possible to show off what a smarty pants coder he was.

 

[meh1995]

Sure I agree with the point of enforcing equal rules for everyone.
But poeple saying that DC is pushing the update because of this tag is a huge cope imho.

I wouldn't say it is as much for the tag as it is because patrons getting incredibly upset already. That being said, it is weird that they made the announcement today, considering that today is the day that there are no excuses about the deadline for the abandoned tag.



Want to know something funny? The game has made more money while we waited for the tech update than it did when the game was being constantly updated.

 

[McSlut]

Holy shit I've been reading the Discord and how the fuck did Dogeek keep his job as long as he did. Apparently on top of being an unlikable cunt to everyone. He named a bunch of variables "booger aids" and never left any comments on any of his work while also doing everything as stupidly complex as possible to show off what a smarty pants coder he was.

and no one else in the team or DC bothered to ask him during the whole time they were working together why he was naming the variables like that or why he wasn't leaving any comments?

 

[Russian_Girl]

He has been pretending to do something for three years, during this time games are created from scratch and released to version 1.0, it is strange that people still donate to him, they pay for air and empty promises, interest has disappeared in this project

 

[Xupuzulla]

But poeple saying that DC is pushing the update because of this tag is a huge cope imho.

Is either that or the patreons are complaining too much.
Either way the fans are angry and no one can deny that at this point.

 

[Senigata]

Holy shit I've been reading the Discord and how the fuck did Dogeek keep his job as long as he did. Apparently on top of being an unlikable cunt to everyone. He named a bunch of variables "booger aids" and never left any comments on any of his work while also doing everything as stupidly complex as possible to show off what a smarty pants coder he was.

Dogeek is the current or old coder?

 

[Username7]

Dogeek is the current or old coder?

Old he was fired for the above and also constantly adding/changing shit without asking.

 

[DaedusWolfe]

Interesting because my posts here #73,284 and here #73,564 would say otherwise, I do apologize for the lack of screenshots with the second you'll just have to take my word on that, just because percentage doesn't move doesn't mean task aren't getting done case in point this month they've closed out 5 posing task yet the needle hasn't moved much I greyed out the older task.
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While I have been following the news page for the past couple of years, I have never taken a screen shot of it. But this is the shot from last october that I remember concerning the progress of code.

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The next status update report is expected in 10-11 days. Until then: #72,879

And the current state is 69% .. yes, back then it was 162 of 233 tasks. But now it is only 178 of 255 tasks .. Still at 69%. 16 tasks done and, I believe, none of them completed this year. If nothing else that bugs/issues bar should have been seeing some action if coding had progressed far enough to start testing.

 

[SemenDaemon]

I haven't followed this thread in a while, but going back from the latest posts, this comment caught my eye so I'm gonna single you out. (It's not a personal attack against you or anything like that. I just thought this comment is worthy of some kind of response.)

"The last 100 pages are about the abandoned tag with the same people copy pasting the same 4 page arguments to the same bait while simultaneously keeping up with their "milking" debates that have been going on for months if not years." - I mean, what else is there? We can have small talk about little things in the game, but those topics have been discussed over and over again. The game haven't changed for months if not years. The constant talks about the 'Abandoned' tag reflects the state of the game itself. Simply put, the bitching and moaning is more entertaining than the game itself at this point.

"I understand doing it here and there and I do get a good chuckle out of some of them but c'mon guys a little bit of self-awareness please" - I urge you to do the same. No offense.

"Like maybe just maybe maybe talk about the game?" - We've been there, we've done that.

"Y'ALL the ones constantly on here. Y'ALL the ones with most of the posts on this thread and the cool part of that is you actually have the choice between cleaning things up or continuing the dumpster fire and y'all CHOOSE to keep it going." - And I can't blame them, honestly. They care about the game and seeing how it's going, this kind of reaction is not that surprising. And let's not act like this thread is some kind of temple, in need of its sanctity and purity to be preserved. The dumpster fire will continue until morale improves.

"You want it stop? Stop flooding the thread." - No! Keep it coming. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. The purpose is to be bothersome. To eventually reach the people who has a say-so in the development.

"Here, I'll even make it easy for everyone: If Eve wasn't trans, who would you want it to be?" - No one.

"What's one fetish you would want to see portrayed?" - Something. Anything. In my lifetime... please.

You misunderstood my point I think.
I also don't care that much whether it is a dumpster fire or not. I'll contribute in both scenarios.


Also sorry to break it to ya but I doubt DC cares about anything on this thread at this point. The most reach anyone can hope for is a fresh F95 user/lurker that tries out a couple games then decides where to spend their money. Feel free to prove me wrong on that but I don't see another way.