mayfly

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Why is this game that was created in some guy's basement not being run like a seasoned professional games studio??
Why did this guy not have a clear defined plan for growing his business the second he started even thinking about sketching out his first nipple???
Why is this guy who is clearly ripping off his fans keep gaining monetary support month after month??
Why is it that nothing of what I say makes any difference in how this game is produced whatsoever???
 

FamousPotato

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Why is this game that was created in some guy's basement not being run like a seasoned professional games studio??
Why did this guy not have a clear defined plan for growing his business the second he started even thinking about sketching out his first nipple???
Why is this guy who is clearly ripping off his fans keep gaining monetary support month after month??
Why is it that nothing of what I say makes any difference in how this game is produced whatsoever???
There's sarcasm buried deep behind these legit questions.
 
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steelsmiter

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Whoopsie, let's remove that unrelated quote
Yes, but AWAM aren't really pornographic, yet. It's telling a story and setting up stuff for the future. The last release I played, there wasn't even any sex yet, except for maybe one scene with the husband. It's been about four months since, though. Very similar to Dual Family, really, in that regard. It was writing a story and not rushing to throw porn into the mix. Also the same for Where The Heart Is.

I guess I don't get why people need to come to these slow paced erotic novels and complain about a slow pace whenre there are hundreds of VNs out there that are much faster paced that they can choose from.
I'm neutral to it, and have done the thing you tell me to do. I was using AWAM to point out that games taking too long isn't a phenomenon unique to 2d games, although the two have their own set of concerns.

It reminds me of the people that would go into an RPGMaker game thread and complain that it's RPGM.
In the interest of fairness, RPGM is a bit clunkier if they go in hard on the interface and maps, it's harder to control, harder to type in names, and often much laggier for those of us with low end video cards. There have been RPGM games done right (which is to say, those that allow you to either type names, or not even bother with names, those that opt for a menu location change rather than a map based one. Can't really fix the difference in controls though), but they're the exception rather than the rule. Much the same for Ren'py games. Admittedly they both have the problem for us low end users that the creators often want to put in memory prohibitive animations that take too long.

In the SS for the year released more, and it corresponds to the genre of porn. While AWAM is a banal, lazy visual erotic novel, with beautiful graphics, but absolutely empty plot and the same characters, just a lot of the same text on the background of beautiful pictures.
I like AWAM, so my only real complaint is how slow and lazy it is. I'll eventually get to it, when someone noteworthy shoves a dick in someone else, and it's not a tease.

I get what you mean, but from my own experience, animating and positioning 3D models is easier than with hand-drawn art like in summertime saga
Oh yes. I am painfully aware each game (and each game type) has its own separate set of pitfalls. I can't really speak to the animation issue, but I do tend to prefer the ones that work better on my piece of shit computer. The images alone take quite a bit more man hours since there's not a lot of stock like there is with 3d though...
 

j4yj4m

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I wonder if we can get DC 100k $ per month, would he be any faster with his updates...
Not until he finds another artist who'll fit his liking. One has to keep in mind that there hasn't been a new development goal after 25k. That's the amount of money he actually asked for. So right now I'd say it doesn't really matter for the overall development speed wether he makes 30, 50 or 60k. Sure, he could hire more coders and a third animator but that woudn't really change much.
 

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Naw, the next update is probably long since finished, they are just artificially delaying it until the next patreon payment cycle, aka May 1st. Once he gets his 50 grand he will give his patreons the next update.
And someone has been caught...
 

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Naw, the next update is probably long since finished, they are just artificially delaying it until the next patreon payment cycle, aka May 1st. Once he gets his 50 grand he will give his patreons the next update.
And you know this how
 

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I'm amazed this thread hasn't been locked lmao. Just another two weeks till release :cautious:
I belive its less than 2 weeks and i belive that its hard to moderate this thread so it stay the purge all the time instead of only 24 hours. xD
 

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It's a shame that this game has hit the all too common issue of "as the $$$ / month increases, the development mystically slows down to a crawl"-issue. At this point it's reached the point where it's much more sane to check for updates every 6 months at most if you want to actually see some progress worth mentioning.
 

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Here is a screen from the stream when it has not yet been banned on YouTube, made 05.05.2018. I do not have access to all of his streams, but if you find all of his records, you will see a lot of what is drawn, which never appeared in the game.
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That's actually art which was made by one of those artists who applied to work for DC. He showed it on stream and then started to correct it (like MC's hand, shading, etc.). It wasn't made by DC and wasn't supposed to be in the game.
 

CrispJr

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Jesus christ stop writting essays defending or attacking an incest porn ren'py game on a pornography piracy website.

What's wrong with you people?
Well, we get people like you.
Then, we have people who bitch about people not giving deep reasoning behind their disappointment.

Many people don't find it difficult or time consuming to write a well construed post about their likes or dislikes of the game. If the things these people post is seen to you as an "essay..." There's really nothing that can be done about you.

This discussion is just a sign that the game is good and people care about it. I mean, it is pulling in over half a mill a year.
 
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j4yj4m

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That is, it now turns out that there are people capable of copying his drawing, but he refused them in order to ... what ... again a number of questions. Well, okay, except for this image there already was a lot of material in the streams that the light never saw, can you explain that too?
The streams are part of his portfolio and people expect him to stream a couple of times a week. So at times, when there's no real "non spoiler content" left he does stuff for future updates (like for example there's quite a bit of Rump and mafia stuff for 0.20 already). Most of the art he does will be used at some point, so it's not really wasted time overall. Sure, there'll certainly be some things which may never be used, but as far as I see it, it's not that's much.

When it comes to hiring people, he obviously wasn't happy with how it turned out. I don't know the reason but it's fine with me. I'd rather wait a little longer and have DC draw the whole game then having to rely on someone else and loose out on quality/creativity. But that's probably just my opinion.
 
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That is, it now turns out that there are people capable of copying his drawing, but he refused them in order to ... what ... again a number of questions. Well, okay, except for this image there already was a lot of material in the streams that the light never saw, can you explain that too?
That picture is kinda bad if the goal was to copy his style. The lighting and shading are off and the anatomy is wonky (but to be fair early summertime saga art was wonky but that's because dc was rushing it out).
It seems more like fanart than anything else.
 
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