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Making sex scenes is what takes the longest, and pregnant sex scenes need to be unique, because you can't just slap a belly onto the sex animation and have it look good. Therefore there are no pregnant scenes yet, but it'll come in due time.
 

preglovr12

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Making sex scenes is what takes the longest, and pregnant sex scenes need to be unique, because you can't just slap a belly onto the sex animation and have it look good. Therefore there are no pregnant scenes yet, but it'll come in due time.
I figured, it just seems pretty odd to have it be piecemeal like this. Seems odd to add pregnancy while not really adding it. I understand Diane because of her story but not really Jenny, especially because she's not too keen on the idea. It probably would have been a better idea to roll it all out at once.
 

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I figured, it just seems pretty odd to have it be piecemeal like this. Seems odd to add pregnancy while not really adding it. I understand Diane because of her story but not really Jenny, especially because she's not too keen on the idea. It probably would have been a better idea to roll it all out at once.
Just think about the workload on it though. You do that all at once, it's going to require its own unique update for EACH lady.

Better to have this sidestep then work the final touches of a pregnancy when it can all come than working on ALL the ladies at ONE time which would be even more hellish.
 

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There is a small problem with the Egyptian gods, because throughout the history and change in Egyptian cults," the gods' responsibility" has changed.
Hathor was the goddess of love, joy, dance and all pleasures and games.
Bastet was the goddess of love, fertility and motherhood.
Married women wanting offspring turned to Bastet.

Certain features overlapped. Anyway, Hathor and Bastet were sisters, and according to the description, they did some odd things, but Hathor did it during the day and Bastet did it at night.

In any case, the statues of black cats point to the goddess Bastet.


In general, I wonder why so many people think that the implementation of pregnancy for most or even all women with whom MC will have sexual intercourse is treated as a fetish?

Bastet is the goddess of fertility, among others.
Dr. Priya deals with infertility treatment.
Miss Okita, while commenting on the magnitude of MC's incest, speaks of an above average MC libido.
Aqua wants a child from MC.
Diane wants a child.
In my opinion, this may be DC's way of introducing universal acceptance of women to the "harem" MC in the SS.

It should be noted that monogamy is a cultural concept. In cultures that allow polygamous relationships, women find it normal to be one of several wives or concubines.
To justify acceptance for MC's "harem", it is enough for DC to introduce some culture to the SS that accepted the fact that one man had several concubines.
I think that the pregnancies being treated as a fetish more than anything, stems from the fact that Diane's story line was the first pregnancy related story, and that culminated into what essentially amounts to Diane and the MC running Summerville Breeding and Dairy inc. :p

Now, while monogamy is strictly a cultural phenomenon, I find your characterization of "women find it normal to be one of several wives or concubines" more than a little problematic. Women in cultures that have been traditionally polygamous, are also, with the exception of some tribal cultures, living in highly patriarchal cultures where most often patriarchy stems from a bullshit religious tradition that automatically assumes women to be second class and essentially property of men. So a statement that "women find it normal to be one of several wives" is just as problematic as claiming that women find it normal to wear a burkha in ISIS or in Iran. They've never had a choice in the matter in the first place. The fact that women in cultures that are traditionally polygamous, find it "normal" doesn't mean that it's because of their free will, but instead because of cultural and religious indoctrination, conditioning and oppression.

Personally, I really don't need DC introducing any cultural concept as backwards and idiotic as any of the more commonly known polygamous cultures or traditions to provide background to essentially fucking around. At the end of the day, we're talking about a game here, and to me a game that doesn't have any specific historical or cultural setting aside from generic western/north American town, doesn't need a cultural concept forced into it to justify the MC knocking up half the town. :)
 
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preglovr12

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Just think about the workload on it though. You do that all at once, it's going to require its own unique update for EACH lady.

Better to have this sidestep then work the final touches of a pregnancy when it can all come than working on ALL the ladies at ONE time which would be even more hellish.
What exactly are you saying? There's going to be a lot of work regardless and we don't know how it's being added. Having the few sprites and a couple of scenes in the hospital bed is nothing when compared to having an animated sex scene (or more than one). If we have to wait half a year for one massive solely focused pregnancy update that'll disappoint a lot of people that aren't into it. Unless that update is the final update of the whole game of course, which would be fine.

As far as my understanding of the plot goes, some of the girls are done, there's not another update that could add pregnancy sex alongside content without it being purely bonus content. Based on the polls, Roxxy and friends need the new rigging and pregnancy, but that's it. Having pregnancy sex isn't mentioned.
 

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What exactly are you saying? There's going to be a lot of work regardless and we don't know how it's being added. Having the few sprites and a couple of scenes in the hospital bed is nothing when compared to having an animated sex scene (or more than one). If we have to wait half a year for one massive solely focused pregnancy update that'll disappoint a lot of people that aren't into it. Unless that update is the final update of the whole game of course, which would be fine.

As far as my understanding of the plot goes, some of the girls are done, there's not another update that could add pregnancy sex alongside content without it being purely bonus content. Based on the polls, Roxxy and friends need the new rigging and pregnancy, but that's it. Having pregnancy sex isn't mentioned.
This half step is to ease up the workload at the end when they just have to add pregnancy scenes which is my point.

This isn't a few sprites, it's DC having to work various different scenes with a belly added to it such as ripples with that in different positions.

My point is that if you did pregnancy as one massive update, for all the girls already did versus this "half step" which allows the rest to be added by itself later, it's certainly different workloads when you start from 0 -> 10 versus with this where it's a 4 -> 10
 

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I mean, in the end there's indeed a good reason why pregnancy sex won't happen anytime soon. If we look at what's broadly scheduled for the game to finish it looks probably more or less like this:

  • All schoolgirls, except for Eve, will get another update, some smaller, like Roxxy, some big ones, like those who haven't content right now (Judith, Ronda, Annie) ~5
  • We'll get an update each for Mrs. Johnson and Debbie ~2
  • We'll have the coming main story (maybe even 2 updates for that), the prom/endgame and the library ~3/4
  • We'll see an update for the teachers and a single one for Coach Bridget ~2
  • We'll get the dating system (maybe even 2 here aswell?) and a harem feature ~2/3
  • There'll probably be another 2 or 3 surprise updates for christmas, halloween, whatever ~3
  • And there'll certainly have to be 1 or 2 updates to wrap everything up (telescope, story connections, etc.) and hopefully one update to bring the incest back ~2

If we assume that some will be longer and some will be shorter, each update may take 2 to 2,5 months on average which would mean that those ~20 updates may take 40 to 50 months to be made. That's realistically another 3,5 to 4 years without that much "unplanned" content added. At least as long as DC doesn't find anybody else who'll help him to draw or unless they find some other way to basically double the current speed. Not that I'd mind it taking that long, but that's probably what to expect.
 
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My point is that if you did pregnancy as one massive update, for all the girls already did versus this "half step" which allows the rest to be added by itself later, it's certainly different workloads when you start from 0 -> 10 versus with this where it's a 4 -> 10
For sure, but a lot of what you're talking about is what Dogeek said, just adding a belly to an existing scene, so I'm not sure it really is "4" -> 10. It might be considering we don't really know what "10" looks like, I sure hope it's more substantial than that.

Yeah I was low-balling it quite a bit.
 

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the walkthrough really needs an update, since the thirteenth point the current walkthrough is wrong.
certainly because since this walkthrough was created the beginning of the game has changed.
you see in the walkthrough it seem they want us to meet all the teachers in one day, but in the current
game it's impossible because the night fall and the school close.

someone can update the walkthrough please ? :)

many thanks.

p.s: it's seem the game has three other walkthrough focused on specific quest,
I think it would be clearer if all the walkthrough were compiled into one. :unsure:
 

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I think that the pregnancies being treated as a fetish more than anything, stems from the fact that Diane's story line was the first pregnancy related story, and that culminated into what essentially amounts to Diane and the MC running Summerville Breeding and Dairy inc. :p

Now, while monogamy is strictly a cultural phenomenon, I find your characterization of "women find it normal to be one of several wives or concubines" more than a little problematic. Women in cultures that have been traditionally polygamous, are also, with the exception of some tribal cultures, living in highly patriarchal cultures where most often patriarchy stems from a bullshit religious tradition that automatically assumes women to be second class and essentially property of men. So a statement that "women find it normal to be one of several wives" is just as problematic as claiming that women find it normal to wear a burkha in ISIS or in Iran. They've never had a choice in the matter in the first place. The fact that women in cultures that are traditionally polygamous, find it "normal" doesn't mean that it's because of their free will, but instead because of cultural and religious indoctrination, conditioning and oppression.

Personally, I really don't need DC introducing any cultural concept as backwards and idiotic as any of the more commonly known polygamous cultures or traditions to provide background to essentially fucking around. At the end of the day, we're talking about a game here, and to me a game that doesn't have any specific historical or cultural setting aside from generic western/north American town, doesn't need a cultural concept forced into it to justify the MC knocking up half the town. :)
I'm afraid you don't understand what I'm going at all. It's not about introducing some Arab patterns to the SS. Far be it from me.
The thing is to place such a culture somewhere near the town.
The very awareness of this and the upbringing of the SS heroes together with the knowledge that something like this exists and is doing well is enough to make them more open to such a possibility.

Personally, I thought more about the Native American tribe, in which one practiced not so much polygamy as the lack of a traditional family. I even prefer the matriarchal system there.

Let's say that as a result of consuming some local alcoholic products or plants, men quickly become imoptants and the tribe created a system to survive that older women rule there, and fathers are young men ... for example teenagers who have relationships with many women.

Something like this can be implemented without major problems. In the most economical version with new content, it is enough to add a book describing this culture and that, for example, Miss Bissette in the lesson would have students read it as something that will familiarize them with local customs. Suffice it to add that this tribe has a legend about a "chosen one" who is immune to this incoming infertility, that he appears every few generations and saves this tribe because he is extremely prolific, all his children are healthy and strong.
That women who are in a relationship with him live long, healthily and happily as long as they are ready to share it with other women, and you can recognize him by the fact that he has exceptionally handsome masculinity and is always ready for sex.
Let the "whispers" start circling the school and town scene with Judith and Annie in the locker room that MC is the chosen one from tribal legends and you have everything covered. You've explained why so many women want him to be the father of their child. Why do so many women want to be in a relationship with him and why they accept his relationship with other women.

A good idea is the basis for almost everything.
Islamic harems look bad in modern Western climates, but culture (made up), but referring to the indigenous people has a much greater sense and looks more attractive.

I know that some do not need such things, but I think that most people prefer such things than leaving loose ends that look meaningless.
 
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ponk01

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@ponk01:
Which walkthrough do you mean? There's an which seems up to date to me. Else it's probably a good way to not focus on a single-path walkthrough, since there's no given order in which you have to play.
i mean this one: https://f95zone.to/threads/summertime-saga-walkthrough-faq-thread.4559/

there is no clear link called "walkthrough" for the walkthrough you showed me in the first post
of this thread why they posted a link for a walkthrough not up to date ? it's a bit silly, thanks
for the link to this walkthrough i don't really like the multi-path walkthrough because
it's a bit boring to jump between the different paths and the one you give me you can't download it,
i prefer the single-path walthrough you have just to follow it and that all. i don't very like thinking
when i play a porn game I reserve that for the public games like resident evil etc....

when i play a porn game i just want to have good graphism and a good story if possible that all.


it's not that I prefer, but I will manage.

thank you. ;)
 

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for the link to this walkthrough i don't really like the multi-path walkthrough because
it's a bit boring to jump between the different paths and the one you give me you can't download it,
i prefer the single-path walthrough you have just to follow it and that all. i don't very like thinking
when i play a porn game I reserve that for the public games like resident evil etc....

when i play a porn game i just want to have good graphism and a good story if possible that all.
Yeah, I guess that's really down to preference. Those "official" walkthroughs became a thing quite recently so I'd guess the one linked is from before.
 
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