Dragon59

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Sorry if you feel I impose self-insertion on you, but you do seem to imply that you do so with your hypothetical pregnant mother situation. I don't know what creators expect of me when consuming their work, and I understand that many consumers choose to self-insert and have no problem with that. I'm not sure how not wanting to self-insert into a work of fiction in which horrific violence is occurring is "stupid". I'm merely asking people who choose to self-insert into works of fiction or depictions of fictional scenarios not to do so, and imagine it from that perspective, same as you ask people to imagine their mothers in a pregnancy porn film.
I'm really wondering if some of this disgust at "pregnancy sex" is thinking that the semen is getting past the cervix, past the amniotic sack and giving the embryo a "body shot." As Han Solo said, "It doesn't work that way!"

And I didn't realize there were people trying to imagine the fetus' thoughts when their parents are having sex. I don't think that they are offended.
 

sirviper235

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Okay wow yeah. And that set off a whole mess lol. They're are good points here though.

I'm going to say what my original idea was and be very clear about it. To try to avoid anyone thinking it's NTR.

All right. The way I see it the best solution to the issue of how half-hearted the entire pregnancy system is is to just build a girl around it. It's her focus and pretty much all her scenes have it. She starts out already pregnant.

The very clear point here is though. This is a previous relationship she had. She is already pregnant before we start interacting with her. That way it is not NTR. If she was made pregnant during our time with her then yes it would be NTR.

Now with that firmly established there are two ways I can see this girl being implemented.

1. Easily the less popular option and probably one I wouldn't go with. Create a new girl for the game, that transfers to the school. Or is the half sibling of a character we already know about. Being a completely new girl opens up a lot of avenues to explore and possible new locations and side characters. The advantage of this is that it's a fresh new girl that can have a new design. The downside to this is it's adding more to the pile and would just take away from girls that desperately need to be fleshed out. I am not as into this idea as number two but I can't deny there is a lot of potential here.

2. Use an existing one that doesn't really have anything going on with them. Now if I were to go with this one I would choose Judith. Now why her? The answer is simple. Judith is in my opinion well suited to this kind of thing where before she and our player character started to interact there was a previous boy in her life who wasn't a good guy and just used her for sex. And then broke up. To be clear. She did not have any sex with this guy from the start of the game it happened before.

This way it's no different than the fact that Roxxy had sex with Dexter before. Or that Maria did with Tony.

And honestly Judith desperately needs an interesting storyline. As she pretty much already has a huge crush on our player character you need to make up a reason for her to not immediately go all in. This is one.

She would be afraid he wouldn't like or want her knowing she's pregnant.

Again. NOT NTR.

But these are just examples.

What do you all think.
 

nolli

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Okay wow yeah. And that set off a whole mess lol. They're are good points here though.

I'm going to say what my original idea was and be very clear about it. To try to avoid anyone thinking it's NTR.

All right. The way I see it the best solution to the issue of how half-hearted the entire pregnancy system is is to just build a girl around it. It's her focus and pretty much all her scenes have it. She starts out already pregnant.

The very clear point here is though. This is a previous relationship she had. She is already pregnant before we start interacting with her. That way it is not NTR. If she was made pregnant during our time with her then yes it would be NTR.

Now with that firmly established there are two ways I can see this girl being implemented.

1. Easily the less popular option and probably one I wouldn't go with. Create a new girl for the game, that transfers to the school. Or is the half sibling of a character we already know about. Being a completely new girl opens up a lot of avenues to explore and possible new locations and side characters. The advantage of this is that it's a fresh new girl that can have a new design. The downside to this is it's adding more to the pile and would just take away from girls that desperately need to be fleshed out. I am not as into this idea as number two but I can't deny there is a lot of potential here.

2. Use an existing one that doesn't really have anything going on with them. Now if I were to go with this one I would choose Judith. Now why her? The answer is simple. Judith is in my opinion well suited to this kind of thing where before she and our player character started to interact there was a previous boy in her life who wasn't a good guy and just used her for sex. And then broke up. To be clear. She did not have any sex with this guy from the start of the game it happened before.

This way it's no different than the fact that Roxxy had sex with Dexter before. Or that Maria did with Tony.

And honestly Judith desperately needs an interesting storyline. As she pretty much already has a huge crush on our player character you need to make up a reason for her to not immediately go all in. This is one.

She would be afraid he wouldn't like or want her knowing she's pregnant.

Again. NOT NTR.

But these are just examples.

What do you all think.
I think do I need to scroll past much more of this type nonsense. Get some friends out in the real world.
 

Dirty_Dan

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Yeah, I'm not against a (pre meeting) pregnant character being in the game, but those suggestions certainly aren't my cup of tea. And I defintely wouldn't care for any of the school characters being used to explore it.

Introduce a newly divorced/widowed MILF for that sort of story line. Light of My Life has a fun plotline involving a pregnant character that was pretty good. You don't even see the husband and you still get the girl.
 

YuuMoka

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so its the first time i am going to play this game and i was wondering if i should download any of the mods or add the incest patch what would you guys recomend
 

j4yj4m

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so its the first time i am going to play this game and i was wondering if i should download any of the mods or add the incest patch what would you guys recomend
The naughty tribute mod is a good addition to the game and fixes some bugs, but I do indeed deactive some features which go too far for my taste.

The game certainly doesn't need mods, though, and the incest patch is only needed if you really like incest.
 

YuuMoka

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The naughty tribute mod is a good addition to the game and fixes some bugs, but I do indeed deactive some features which go too far for my taste.

The game certainly doesn't need mods, though, and the incest patch is only needed if you really like incest.
i see thx for the help ill check it out
 
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YuuMoka

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The naughty tribute mod is a good addition to the game and fixes some bugs, but I do indeed deactive some features which go too far for my taste.

The game certainly doesn't need mods, though, and the incest patch is only needed if you really like incest.
Hey another thing, i see that the game was meant to have incest from the star but because patreons guidelines they had to remove it, so my question is doesnt the game feel weird without the incest patch?
 

j4yj4m

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Hey another thing, i see that the game was meant to have incest from the star but because patreons guidelines they had to remove it, so my question is doesnt the game feel weird without the incest patch?
Yes, that's essentially what happened and no, not really. The incest has never been a central part of the story and as such it's not as bad. The mom became a good friend of MC's dad and the sister her daughter. So it still feels quite natural.

Edit: Sure, it's not 100% perfect but I've never been bothered by it.
 

YuuMoka

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Yes, that's essentially what happened and no, not really. The incest has never been a central part of the story and as such it's not as bad. The mom became a good friend of MC's dad and the sister her daughter. So it still feels quite natural.

Edit: Sure, it's not 100% perfect but I've never been bothered by it.
ok, thanks for the help thats all my questions.
 
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Ataman87

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ok, thanks for the help thats all my questions.
The updates before Patreon band it were all incest based and the game had plenty of incest references not just the acts between the mc - sister / mc - mother and mc - aunt. You got the incest between Eric and his mom . You had incest books in the library about it. You would see mayor Rump getting blowed by Iwanka in the teather. The aunt will tease Jenny "that she can do her too " i one of the scenes when they are arguing in the kitchen. As for Jenny - she was bisexual , she used to watch lesbian porn ( i think that was a set up for a feature family treesome but that was my opinion). She mastrubate when she cathes you looking at Mia ( watching her on the telescore) . All that chaged. And for me it feels wierd becouse all the people in the mc house are obviously related. Debbie and her "friend" are still twins and Jenny still looks like her mom the house keeper of what ever you call her as well to the mc. The developer went to damage controll back then and promused to restore the incest at some point , but i think he long droped that idea , seeing it didnt hurt his income and not doing anything to provide a incest patch like many other devs did. All and all i think at the beggining the game was suppouse to be incest heavy (no all incest ofc) but all that changed. Its up to personal preference if you like that or not.
 

Omnikuken

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Damn that wall was hurtful to read ...... And of course DC went to damage control, he had to remove the game for at least a month while rewriting most of everything. And he won't do "unofficial" patch ever, being the #1 pron game on the site would be insta-death if he tried to sneak something around the TOS

You got a few options if you can't live without your wincest : grab the earlier builds/headcanon stuff/rename them to notmom and notsis/ask around why the patch was taken down for the 10th time within a week/wait ~6 years until the game is complete and hope DC adds the promised wincest back
 

Dragon59

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/wait ~6 years until the game is complete and hope DC adds the promised wincest back
Well, we were given one encouraging hint recently. The picture of Frank (Dad) and young Jenny. He was a father figure in her youth.
 

McSlut

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don’t get it either, we all know jenny, debbie and diane are designed as mc’s family. can’t you just pretend mc is calling debbie his landlady (even in private) because he is worried he’s getting spied on by the mafia or whatever and he doesn’t want to give them more blackmail material or he is worried they might kill his family if they find out they are related?

i think this is something a modder could do in 5 minutes. just an additional text during the intro while they are at the graveyard talking about how the police asked them to keep their family relation a secret so he know refers to debbie as his landlady and he got used to it quickly.

maybe i just don’t get how it’s such a huge immersion breaker for people because i’ve played the pre incest removal versions when they came out out and dc having to change some words around that are obviously work-in-progress placeholders right now doesn’t kill my boner. yes it says landlady but my brain reads it as “mom” anyway and i’m not even into the whole incest theme.
 
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