Omnikuken

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(as much as is even possible after the complete Eve rewrite likely for the sake of the d-addition)over a quick and immediate solution.
The wut ? The only rewrite you might get is when/if/maybe DC goes back to wincest once the game is done in 10+ years. Other than that, it'll be some wonky stuff like we're getting now stacked on top of previous wonky stuff from older builds.
 

Saraf

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Yes, they can do that but my point was that there's no chance for that to happen as long as they are actually working on the game, which is pretty much a first. All the other cliffhangers they added, like the Eve/Odette cemetary threesome, Ross/Maria, the tony/maria scene (which will now happen), etc. were realisitc, while this one isn't really...
Why shouldnt a sharing route be possible right now?
Did patreon pop some new rules Im unaware of?


The wut ? The only rewrite you might get is when/if/maybe DC goes back to wincest once the game is done in 10+ years. Other than that, it'll be some wonky stuff like we're getting now stacked on top of previous wonky stuff from older builds.
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I meant her character was rewritten for her route,not that she will be rewritten in the future.
Otherwise not really sure what you are going for.
 

j4yj4m

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Why shouldnt a sharing route be possible right now?
Did patreon pop some new rules Im unaware of?
Hm? They are sisters and as such actual sharing is not an option or patreon may ban the game because of incest. Unless you want to say that Eve should be fine with MC fucking other women when she's not around. In that case I'd say it would diminish her whole plot pretty substancially and I hope they won't go down that route.
 

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Hm? They are sisters and as such actual sharing is not an option or patreon may ban the game. Unless you want to say that Eve should be fine with MC fucking other women when she's not around. In that case I'd say it would diminish her whole plot pretty substancially and I hope they won't go down that route.
Yeah I was thinking of the latter(the actual sharing in the in best case scenario being reserved for that magical unicorn post-release update).
Considering how heavily Odette keeps hinting towards it there seems to be some author intention behind the message(admittedly there is a point to be made about how that might just be Odette´s character being set up for later drama but...considering the light-hearted nature of the narrative I somewhat doubt that).
Probably important to keep in mind that(at last as far as Eve is concerned,the main plot sadly forcing the MC into cheating being another topic)its not just "other women" but her sister who Eve has repeatedly said she wants to see happy so I dont really see how that would diminish her plotline(going by hentai logic anyway).
 

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I've just kind of given up on this version of it, not sure why it gives the loading pop up then quits without opening the game but they aren't answering people with that problem on their patron either. Hopefully it's fixed by the next version.
 

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Yeah I was thinking of the latter(the actual sharing in the in best case scenario being reserved for that magical unicorn post-release update).
Considering how heavily Odette keeps hinting towards it there seems to be some author intention behind the message(admittedly there is a point to be made about how that might just be Odette´s character being set up for later drama but...considering the light-hearted nature of the narrative I somewhat doubt that).
Probably important to keep in mind that(at last as far as Eve is concerned,the main plot sadly forcing the MC into cheating being another topic)its not just "other women" but her sister who Eve has repeatedly said she wants to see happy so I dont really see how that would diminish her plotline(going by hentai logic anyway).
I personally don't really like the this whole "hentai/porn logic" thing to be honest, because it often simply leads bad and lazy stories. In the end they invested a lot of story time to build and develop Eve's character and her relationship with MC, to have this really nice and sweet romance and it just seems too far out of character to me. You'd need a lot of dialog and the outcome would probably still be far from good.

As said, I fully agree that the current situation isn't good, but a I don't really see a good way out, either. It's almost tragic that the new scene kinda made it even worse compared to how it was before. But yeah, just writing something to have an ending that's not totally bad seems rather unworthy to me. But that may just be my opinion which is just as good as anybody else's.
 
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I personally don't really like the this whole "hentai/porn logic" thing to be honest, because it often simply leads bad and lazy stories. In the end they invested a lot of story time to build and develop Eve's character and her relationship with MC, to have this really nice and sweet romance and it just seems too far out of character to me. You'd need a lot of dialog and the outcome would probably still be far from good.

As said, I fully agree that the current situation isn't good, but a I don't really see a good way out, either. It's almost tragic that the new scene kinda made it even worse compared to how it was before. But yeah, just writing something to have an ending that's not totally bad seems rather unworthy to me. But that may just be my opinion which is just as good as anybody else's.
We are still left with the "porn physics" where someone 3-6 feet away can neither hear nor smell that sex is happening.
The curtain between between Eve's room and the common room, must be heavily soundproofed for her not to hear what has been going on potentially every weekend.

The same holds with Debbie and Jenny when one or the other is in the very next room with an open passageway.

That said, it's not just "hentai/porn logic." I've known a number of people in the polyamory community who embrace the sharing the love attitude.
 

Omnikuken

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I've just kind of given up on this version of it, not sure why it gives the loading pop up then quits without opening the game but they aren't answering people with that problem on their patron either. Hopefully it's fixed by the next version.
Game takes a while to start, let it run for a bit. At least now, you got the splash screen telling you it's actually doing something. Unless you're on Android, in which case, suffering is a good option. Or changing to a better phone/PC
 

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Game takes a while to start, let it run for a bit. At least now, you got the splash screen telling you it's actually doing something. Unless you're on Android, in which case, suffering is a good option. Or changing to a better phone/PC
We're not talking wait a minute or two, we're saying doesn't start period. At least 2 others here have mentioned the same problem, I'm not looking through every page since this version posted so probably more, and on the patreon at least 3 people mentioned it in the comments, again wasn't looking through all 150+ comments so probably more. Last version opens fine in <15 seconds.
 
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Saraf

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I personally don't really like the this whole "hentai/porn logic" thing to be honest, because it often simply leads bad and lazy stories. In the end they invested a lot of story time to build and develop Eve's character and her relationship with MC, to have this really nice and sweet romance and it just seems too far out of character to me. You'd need a lot of dialog and the outcome would probably still be far from good.

As said, I fully agree that the current situation isn't good, but a I don't really see a good way out, either. It's almost tragic that the new scene kinda made it even worse compared to how it was before. But yeah, just writing something to have an ending that's not totally bad seems rather unworthy to me. But that may just be my opinion which is just as good as anybody else's.
Hm dunno,feels like you are putting the relationship on a specific pedestal which in turn colors your view of Eve´s character.
She hasnt spoken out against the idea(on the contrary,Odette hints towards her being okay with it at last in the constraints of it being her sister)and its not like strict monogamity is a theme that fueled their relationship in the first place.
Out of curiosity,what kind of development and dialogue would you expect for this narrative turn to be warranted?
 

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We're not talking wait a minute or two, we're saying doesn't start period. At least 2 others here have mentioned the same problem, I'm not looking through every page since this version posted so probably more, and on the patreon at least 3 people mentioned it in the comments, again wasn't looking through all 150+ comments so probably more. Last version opens fine in <15 seconds.
I took 4-5 minutes to scroll through posts back to #57,789 when v0.20.11 was announced. So far, you are the only one mentioning this problem here. Some questions:
  1. Have you turned the computer off and on again?
  2. Have you completely removed the previous game version?
  3. Have you checked the traceback log for report?
  4. What, if any, mods/patches are you running within the game?
  5. If you are running mods/patches, have you tried running the game "clean?"
  6. Which platform - Win/Linux/Mac/Droid?
  7. Which version of OS?
  8. Have you installed all required updates for the OS?
  9. Where are you placing the file folder on your computer? (desktop, in a top-level folder, or a folder within a folder within a folder within ... ad infinitum)
  10. How much available HD space?
  11. How much RAM installed?
  12. How old is your computer?
  13. What video card/how old is the video card?
  14. Are your video drivers updated?
  15. Have you removed previous save folders/files? - I put this last because many players go crazy when suggesting this.
 
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Omnikuken

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Just pointing out that #3 won't happen if the game fails to even start. Traceback only appears if the code fails at something it was expecting, the game not starting altogether isn't gonna make it write, since the engine isn't even loaded/working
 
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jestertlw

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Just pointing out that #3 won't happen if the game fails to even start. Traceback only appears if the code fails at something it was expecting, the game not starting altogether isn't gonna make it write, since the engine isn't even loaded/working
I'm just going through processes to check. Sometimes something starts, loads, and crashes when someone isn't fully paying attention and then successive tries just load the splash screen (or nothing at all) without the game starting. So a traceback log can exist in scenario similar to that.
 

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So I think I encountered a bug. After roxxy's route becca and missy never set up the encounters or foursome no matter how long I wait or how many times I play spin the bottle or bang roxxy. So Idk what's wrong or if there is a fix.
 

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before I dl this...which girl got content in this update??
Becca - Drop by her apartment after sleeping with her solo at the beach.
Debbie - Turn down the threesome.
Eve - Visit her room one weekend morning after the end of the story.
Grace - Catch her meditating after having at least one massage.
Jenny - Get her pregnant, sleep at home, she'll come to you.
Roxxy - New animation angle for her.
 
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