Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.4468] [Kompas Productions]
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You can't, that's what the tech-update is for.
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Yeah, DC didn't redo most backgrounds on stream nor did he make the new places either. The 80% tracker is also obviously a lie
Im sorry, did the Tech Update get released? Noooo. Then it hasn't happened, any information about it is all talk, until it is. Unless you and only you somehow got the update before every single other person even on patreon? ;/ Hmmmmm Wish I had time travel, or the ability to bend the laws of reality ^^
- Feb 22, 2018
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So anything not released doesn't exist until then ? Nice mindfuckery you're trying to dump out there
The people that were in the stream and the Picarto archives that show him drawing stuff are also a figment of our imagination that can't exist until the update releases ?
- Jun 19, 2017
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You can literally watch 2 years worth of tech update stream content in DC's archive. So unless you really want to suggest, that all of that content will never make it into the game, I'm not sure what you are trying to say?
Edit: In case anybody still cares, he did start to draw a few more Debbie poses recently, so we may indeed get a partial art replacement for her within the tech update.
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If it weren't for this for this kinkd of crap, this forum wouldn't be 1000 pages.
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Yeah he's got so little to do art wise that he's been going through and redoing buttons and some other background stuff from the early days.
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Since we are in 100% shit on the Dev mode here, I'll contribute.
The way this game handles pregnancy is laughably bad, except its not funny, not at all. As in, it is guilty of the greatest sin a video game can commit, not being enjoyable. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it has to be fun. I'm sure not all of us were having 'fun' when Joel's daughter died in our arms in 'The Last of Us' or when Alma Wade was chasing us through shadowed buildings in 'F.E.A.R'. But those games were enjoyable, and so were those moments.
SS punishes you for getting girls pregnant. It talks up a warning that pregnancy in the game is 'serious' and you'll notice the effects. Except it isn't and you won't. The only effect is that it takes viable women OUT of the game (removes content) which is a mortal sin by anyone's estimation. But after you simply wait (you don't even have to visit the kid at the hospital or ever even ACT as a parent) the girl comes back and is slutting it up for you again, ready and willing to push out another bastard.
Two possibilities exist for this absurd dichotomy. Either the Dev hates Preg content and wants as little to do with it as possible, including not allowing pregnant sex (which is insane, and does a disservice, many of us, men and women, WANT to sleep with our LI while pregnant, both in the game and IRL) and barely allowing any special interaction at all, they aren't given different content, they aren't allowed to keep their old content, they're just stripped of basically anything they had while you wait for them to bounce back, and their kid to disappear into nursery school, never to be mentioned again.
The other possibility (the more accurate one, I expect) is the Dev is fucking lazy as hell. Doesn't want to make multiple models or modify existing sex scenes (what a fucking loser, watching some of these girls ride the MC with a bump, would be hot as hell) or make any effort at all. All under the guise of 'pregnancy has consequences'.
TLDR. The Dev is pretty lazy and it shows in their work. He also tries to cover this fact up with excuses.
The way this game handles pregnancy is laughably bad, except its not funny, not at all. As in, it is guilty of the greatest sin a video game can commit, not being enjoyable. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it has to be fun. I'm sure not all of us were having 'fun' when Joel's daughter died in our arms in 'The Last of Us' or when Alma Wade was chasing us through shadowed buildings in 'F.E.A.R'. But those games were enjoyable, and so were those moments.
SS punishes you for getting girls pregnant. It talks up a warning that pregnancy in the game is 'serious' and you'll notice the effects. Except it isn't and you won't. The only effect is that it takes viable women OUT of the game (removes content) which is a mortal sin by anyone's estimation. But after you simply wait (you don't even have to visit the kid at the hospital or ever even ACT as a parent) the girl comes back and is slutting it up for you again, ready and willing to push out another bastard.
Two possibilities exist for this absurd dichotomy. Either the Dev hates Preg content and wants as little to do with it as possible, including not allowing pregnant sex (which is insane, and does a disservice, many of us, men and women, WANT to sleep with our LI while pregnant, both in the game and IRL) and barely allowing any special interaction at all, they aren't given different content, they aren't allowed to keep their old content, they're just stripped of basically anything they had while you wait for them to bounce back, and their kid to disappear into nursery school, never to be mentioned again.
The other possibility (the more accurate one, I expect) is the Dev is fucking lazy as hell. Doesn't want to make multiple models or modify existing sex scenes (what a fucking loser, watching some of these girls ride the MC with a bump, would be hot as hell) or make any effort at all. All under the guise of 'pregnancy has consequences'.
TLDR. The Dev is pretty lazy and it shows in their work. He also tries to cover this fact up with excuses.
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While the ciriticism in itself is valid, the conclusion is kinda wrong. Keep in mind that the game isn't finished and that creating sex scenes is what takes the most time - you don't just push a button and have a new scene, but each of them resembles quite a bit of work. By now it's much more about getting the system/story implemented in the first place, with the option to add more content later on.
There are some girls which already have pregnant sex scenes and more scenes and girls will follow over time. It's certainly true that DC could have adapted a few more existing scenes by now (those where it's easy to add pregnancy) but apart from that, elaborating pregnancy content simply means that other content will have to wait even longer. Given that it's not the most popular fetish out there, it's reasonable to add other content first.
Hm? The only statement I know is, that more content is going to follow later on. Not sure how that's supposed to be an excuse.
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Except he isn't taking care of his family. The Patreon supporters are.
- Jun 19, 2017
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Yeah, I think the least they should really aim for - for now - in Debbie's case is that people, who aren't playing her story, won't stumble across her old art while playing other stories. Not sure if that's going to happen, but I'd say it would be a good use of time.
- Feb 22, 2018
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Do it now while he has nothing else to do or delay every update by a few weeks cause he still has to remake them eventually ....
I agree this is a significant bunch of lost opportunities, but only when diligently taken in isolation by focusing just on pregnancy. There are at least three massive layers of failure burying this one.
First, the game is an abject failure at being kinky in general not just related to pregnancy. The game was centered on incest because that was hot in the market around 2016. The dev was always interested solely in what sells and slavishly bent over to Patreon's Fantasy Police when many others proeminent devs did not and survived. DC was never capable of writing and including spicy perversions. In terms of kinkiness, SS is store-brand vanilla icecream and nothing more. This intention of keeping it mild was expressed many times by the dev, perhaps most often when he was asked why there isn't more anal. That's where SS is. Anal is a bit too icky. Of course preg sex is bland.
Second, the game is a failure at presenting story lines as part of a pleasant, coherent whole that goes somewhere. Instead, the horrible "executive" decision was made long ago that story lines will just keep changing with each release as more content is added. This lead to the repulsive effect of spaghetti story lines where right from the start you can start a huge number of "quests" that will not only overwhelm your attention (basically, "every" screen you visit will trigger an event that advances a different story line) but you will also get the pregnant (heh) feeling that despite all these stories happening simultaneously, they don't overlap or influence each other in the least, destroying the suspension of disbelief. It's like you're reading a comic book made by mixing together several comic books from the same universe that minimally reference each other despite using the same characters. This is all a consequence of the putrid brain idea that the game is best changed willy nilly everywhere and anywhere with each new release. It's also a blatant show of zero artistic integrity and zero commitment to telling a well thought out story that unravels in an engaging and pleasant manner (he just piles shit on with every release, aimlessly stumbling around towards the next paycheck for as long as it works).
Thirdly, the whole project is a failure. Tech Update was supposed to take 2 releases when it was sold and put up vor vote. This was supposed to take about 8 months. We are a whopping 25 months away from when this vaporware was announced as being worked on (i.e. 14-Feb-2021). It's not just a monumental failure at hitting any kind of reasonable deadline but also a defiant show of disrespect to anyone who has ever supported this project in the meantime. There is no believable progress report in sight. Nobody saw any demo of a working game that would hint at where the actual-product-to-be-delivered stands. There is absolutely no shadow of promise, much less believable promise, for a release date.
I hope that now, having read the above, you feel a bit better about preg sex being lame because in context, that's a really small problem.