Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5003] [Kompas Productions]

[srksrk 68]

DarkCookie literally said there was a trans character from the very first release from of the game. In fact he made a bit of a game in the early streams of having people try to figure out who it was going to be. No one who knew anything about the game should feel like it was a "hijack". I haven't forgotten anything. Perhaps you were just missing some information.

EDIT: Also what do you mean takes time from "normal" content? Every character is drawn independently, the only way that would be the case is if he had stock rigs/bodies and put a different face onto them, which does not happen. Everything about your whole comment is just wrong besides where you express your opinion, lol.

Sorry, what I feel is my thing, not yours. If the game suddenly became more trans than before I have the right to feel hijacked, yes? As I said, I can live with how it is right now, so no need for further discussion here.

And it certainly means more effort to draw alternate animations as well as writing the story. Those things don't draw or write themselve alone. The drawing part nearly doubles (or in Eve's case: tripples because of the anal part) the effort because the relevant parts of the frame are different, even if there are some parts of the frame that can be re-used.

 

[srksrk 68]

OK you're just fucking trolling at this point or something lol. You're wrong and triggered something you don't like is in your favorite game. Boohoo. The game was always intended to have trans content and you're just sooooooo bothered that DC took time to make content that he always intended to have in his game because it's content you don't like. How dare he. He said he would have trans content, he has had trans content as one of the tags for intended content from the very fucking beginning. It's not your game, and it is what DC always intended it to be. The content he took time out to draw was the cis content for people like you and you still find something to complain about, and drawing a vagina probably only took an extra hour or two as the animations are the exact same. Fucking incredible.



EDIT: The N-word thing is hard to get if you don't understand American history, especially modern cultural development in the post Jim Crow era. There are plenty of black people who don't like using it but there's plenty of contextual justification for its use.

Are you trying to trigger me or what? Did I insult you at some point? Stop telling me I am trolling because I have an opinion.

 

[j4yj4m]

EDIT: The N-word thing is hard to get if you don't understand American history, especially modern cultural development in the post Jim Crow era. There are plenty of black people who don't like using it but there's plenty of contextual justification for its use.

I was indeed quite interested for some time and I totally get why people would start to use it in that given situation. I just have no idea where this situation will eventually end up now that time and societey progresses - especially since I feel ( and I may be wrong) that the word gets used more and more in let's say music or art in the last decade. The vast majority of people start to get along, intermingle, intermarry, etc. and I just feel that words like these don't do any good in that environment.

Then again, this isn't really the place for that discussion.

 

[yoyomistro]

Are you trying to trigger me or what? Did I insult you at some point? Stop telling me I am trolling because I have an opinion.

You're not stating an opinion though. An opinon would be "I don't like trans content." You said it "never was intented to be a trans genre game... And drawing the trans animations takes time and effort from normal content." Neither of which are factually true, yet you present them as fact. Three people tell you that you are, in fact, making incorrect statements about the content of the game and the game's development cycle, and present proof as to why you are incorrect. Then you persist in presenting your flawed, self-informed information as facts about the game's development. If you can't differentiate between an opinion and a fact, that doesn't change the definition of those words as defined in American or British English.

I was indeed quite interested for some time and I totally get why people would start to use it in that given situation. I just have no idea where this situation will eventually end up now that time and societey progresses - especially since I feel ( and I may be wrong) that the word gets used more and more in let's say music or art in the last decade. The vast majority of people start to get along, intermingle, intermarry, etc. and I just feel that words like these don't do any good in that environment.

Then again, this isn't really the place for that discussion.

Fair enough. Also the use of the word is as persistent in black American music as it has been for about 40-70 years, depending on the genres. It's just that music about the marginal experiences of black American experience has become more mainstream in the last 10-20 years, and the topics explored by those who crafted the media used to express those experiences has expanded in such a nearly unprecedented global fashion that people who were previously unexposed to the experiences and tropes core to the genres it's been used in are hearing it more than if it had never become as mainstream as it is.

 

[2xjj]

Having a trans character in the game or any forum of media is not "hijacking" it.

 

[jish55]

I'm looking at the map for the new tech update, and I feel like there's a little more to add due to the bottom row of houses, so with that, I feel we're going to have another 1-2 major map updates to expand the southern portion and possibly eastern portion of the town.

 

[Rickster82]

So "Summer Update", when?

 

[srksrk 68]

"... And drawing the trans animations takes time and effort from normal content." Neither of which are factually true, yet you present them as fact.

As I said I don't care what anybody *says* when I play a game. It had no trans content at the time and that is a fact even if you fail to recognize what a fact is. And again you fail to explain how providing additional content would not result in additional effort.

You can continue to insult as long as you like. I already told that I am fine with the trans content we got and all I want to say (and I also did) is that I want it to be skippable and completely optional. I don't remember who said it in the current discussion but it was mentioned that such content should not be skippable. I vote against that and nothing you rant about can change that.

 

[Uthuriel]

IC - patch was deleted from MEGA.
Where can I get that file instead?

 

[Uthuriel]

Squark
Instead of headpatting me show me the correct file.
The MEGA link on LewdPatcher is down....

genius....

 

[Squark ⚧❤️]

Squark
Instead of headpatting me show me the correct file.
The MEGA link on LewdPatcher is down....

genius....

I don't appreciate the sarcasm.
But what you don't realise is the amount of times that question has been asked.
I suggest you familiarise yourself with the Search function.

 

[Rystvalya]

I get having a trans character and I see no problem with it. Unless there is another character that I've missed I'm pretty sure you get to chose if the character in question is female or trans so what's the big deal?

But MY question is has anyone modded it yet so they're a futa? If I'm given the option of trans OR pregnancy I need an option with both

 

[Omnikuken]

What has this place devolved to ? This is so getting nuked within the day .....

And no, the original plan was to have a trap character (aka a dude dressed as a girl for the sole purpose of baiting MC into thinking he's a girl), the trans trait/char appeared way later when Eve was the only schoolgirl left and DC fell for his own schemes/jokes and transformed it to trans for whatever reason (possibly a continuation of said joke)

I get having a trans character and I see no problem with it. Unless there is another character that I've missed I'm pretty sure you get to chose if the character in question is female or trans so what's the big deal?

But MY question is has anyone modded it yet so they're a futa? If I'm given the option of trans OR pregnancy I need an option with both

Technically and depending of what definition you take/use, male Eve can be a futa (girl with a dick or dude with boobs). Just like NTR, "futa" can be a few things (especially if you go the japanese game route)

 

[j4yj4m]

And no, the original plan was to have a trap character (aka a dude dressed as a girl for the sole purpose of baiting MC into thinking he's a girl), the trans trait/char appeared way later when Eve was the only schoolgirl left and DC fell for his own schemes/jokes and transformed it to trans for whatever reason (possibly a continuation of said joke)

As said before, I think it was more the case that DC just didn't care about the usage of his words, as was explained above. As far as I'm aware he did indeed care about a proper story quite early on and an actual "trap" was never on the table.

Technically and depending of what definition you take/use, male Eve can be a futa (girl with a dick or dude with boobs). Just like NTR, "futa" can be a few things (especially if you go the japanese game route)

Doesn't the term futa usually include both a dick and a vagina? The futas which are often shown in games are basically just fantasy and can't actually exist in reality.

 

[Omnikuken]

A reality-reliant futa would be a hermaphrodite : both sexes into 1 person. Whatever we get in games isn't and doesn't need to be reality-based.

There's also "futa" with a normal girl having a dick but no pussy, having both pussy+dick and dudes having boobs. The term is pretty loose

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[Squark ⚧❤️]

can't actually exist in reality.

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It actually can but is extremely rare, like <0.1% rare. The highest probability is as a result of Chimerism, which is also very rare- given that the highest estimate of natural human chimeras is ~10%.

 

[j4yj4m]

A reality-reliant futa would be a hermaphrodite : both sexes into 1 person. Whatever we get in games isn't and doesn't need to be reality-based.

Well, yeah, that was kinda the point. Hermaphrodites usually don't have two fully functional sexual organs - certainly not as we see it in some games.

There's also "futa" with a normal girl having a dick but no pussy, having both pussy+dick and dudes having boobs. The term is pretty loose

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That's not really how the term is used when it comes to NSFW games though. It's even written in the article: "In today's language it refers almost exclusively to characters who have an overall

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body, but have both female and male primary genitalia (although testicles are not always present) "

I mean, there's a reason why futa and trans are mentioned seperately - simply because they are seen as something different.

Off-topic, possibly will be deleted because O/T.
It actually can but is extremely rare, like <0.1% rare. The highest probability is as a result of Chimerism, which is also very rare- given that the highest estimate of natural human chimeras is ~10%.

Sure, it exists, but I mean, the chance to have a perfectly working "normal" dick and a fully functional female sexual organs is basically indeed zero. At least as far as I'm aware.

Not that it really matters. I just wanted to point out that there's a reason why trans and futa shouldn't be used as synonyms.

 

[Marphey]

That's good to hear, I'd heard that he'd gotten a icy cold shoulder when he asked for advice.

Reminds me of something I've heard many times--those who want to take advantage of LGBTQ+ often learn all the terms flawlessly in order to gain their confidence. It advises to recognize when someone is genuinely trying to do the right thing, to use the right terms, even if they stumble.

I often consider myself "mildly gender non-conforming." Nothing drastic, but I really never fit in with boys growing up, never got some of their attitudes and felt more at ease in the company of girls. I often look to the time when "gender non-conformity" is no longer a thing.

Identity politics. That's definetly what we need on these forums.

 

[Marphey]

I will give my two cents to the whole discussion. As of right now optional trans character is the best compromise for those who want such character and those who are not into that.

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

Adding to the arguments, I just kinda think the Eve trap/trans thing was kind of poorly executed in general. I think there are a lot of areas where it could of been handled better and it just ends up feeling more natural in relation to the rest of the game that Eve is a girl by birth.