Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5003] [Kompas Productions]

[Omnikuken]

hey there, i'm not the big expert of game like summertime saga, but i like the style of the game, can smb recommend some more game like SG? ( all the most popular games like milfy city, harem hotel, taffy tales i've already tried)

You already played most of them and any listing of other games will get deleted. Better go into the thread list/latest updates and look for yourself

 

[j4yj4m]

hey there, i'm not the big expert of game like summertime saga, but i like the style of the game, can smb recommend some more game like SG? ( all the most popular games like milfy city, harem hotel, taffy tales i've already tried)

In addition to what was said, you may sort that "Latest updates list" by weighted rating (the star on the very right) and you'll get some great options. One of the games that is a good contender would be "What a Legend!" which you'll find there, too. Next to that I'd highly recommend "a house in the rift".

Everything will depend on Cookies, and since the release speed is very low, the concept may have changed several times by that time.

That's certainly true when it comes to choices, though at the moment it looks like they are coming around to implementing more of them again, after it looked like most of them would be gone for good. But we'll only know once it's done.

 

[srksrk 68]

I think that's kinda of contradictory. To me it's indeed pretty simple, if you want a game where every girl is in the harem, you simply can't have deeper "classical" romance (like in Eve's case), somewhat meaningful male friendsships (like Erik or Harold), etc. without it becoming totally weird or totally out of character.

I get that people don't care for these things and would be happy for DC to ignore it, but I simply think that this whole "full harem" thing just doesn't fit SS. There are games where the harem is key and where the game is essentially tailored/written towards it and quite a few of them are great. But SS wasn't meant to be that way and it shows in almost every story.


I strongly disagree here, to be honest. For the simply reason that it basically never works. Once you have to start "bending" existing stories they either become bad or boring or seem really lazy.

Also I don't really want to see that content wise, either. I'd like to see Harold and Helen back happy together while MC is having fun with Mia and Yumi. I'd like MC and Judith to kick some Latina ass without having to think about that MC has to fuck them later on, I may even like to get rid of Mrs. Smith for good if that that's an option and have MC take over her cult, etc.

If everyboy has to stay on "good terms" and be available for the harem, it just cuts off so many possibilities which in my opinon would be quite sad, given the great options the game offers.

Just do add: I'm not saying there shouldn't be threesomes, foursomes, fivesomes, whatever else is possible - but just that it should be within character and fitting for these specific stories. Even now the game offers more realisitc possibilities than DC could ever complete and to me that's really enough.

There are games that do exactly what I wrote. Mentioning them here would make this post disappear, so...

Don't forget that this game has magic, and MC has a magic tool. That counts for something. As I said, many of the girls are already totally fine. And btw I never mentioned a harem. There are many twists that could make this happen. Some girls might just not mind to share, some might want to do better than the other, some might even want it that way. And some might become totally addicted and do anything at all.

Possibilities would be countless, and it's all about fantasy. As I said, I don't need reality or realism here, I already have it.

Edit: I would like to add that, by your logic, MC would get to boink only one girl in one playthrough because as soon as any other finds out, it'll be all over. Why would Roxxy tolerate the MC/Eve relationship, for example? So much for realism

 

[j4yj4m]

Don't forget that this game has magic, and MC has a magic tool. That counts for something.

Yeah, but that's excatly what I meant by "boring" and "lazy". You just can't write a story like Eve's and then make her join a harem by having some magic tool. The same goes for making guys like Harold disappear or so because he's in the way of having Helen and Yumi at the same time. It totally discounts their story and their characters for no real reason up to the point that DC shouldn't have bothered in the first place.

As said, yes, there are games that are specifically made to be harems and they do it well. But these games usually feature different setting and different casts. Then again, there are just as many really bad harem games where I've personally stopped playing at like ~80% because it just got random/boring as hell.

Some girls might just not mind to share, some might want to do better than the other, some might even want it that way. And some might become totally addicted and do anything at all.

And that's fine. But at the same time some girls may not like to share, may hate other girls so much that they don't want to share with some specific girls but with others, some may not be compatible for other reasons etc. and I don't see why that shouldn't be as valid as your points.

As said before, the fact alone that some guys are too lazy to save and load a savegame doesn't convince me, personally.

For me this isn't about "realism" but about good and bad writing. At some point it usually simply often becomes so stupid that it's just not worth it anymore and I hope that won't happen to SS.

Edit:

Edit: I would like to add that, by your logic, MC would get to boink only one girl in one playthrough because as soon as any other finds out, it'll be all over. Why would Roxxy tolerate the MC/Eve relationship, for example? So much for realism

The point is indeed that you could make a let's say main single girl playthrough and get a great experience out of it, like you'd do in the many VNs. If every girl is taylored towards sharing that's probably not really the case.

Don't forget that in the future the schoolgirl's sex scenes will be more exclusive because they'll be locked behind the dating system. So we are kinda moving in that direction and I'm pretty sure that's actually closer to what DC had in mind when he started the game than a "fuck everyone in one playthrough". But that's of course just my opinion.

 

[srksrk 68]

Yeah, but that's excatly what I meant by "boring" and "lazy". You just can't write a story like Eve's and then make her join a harem by having some magic tool. The same goes for making guys like Harold disappear or so because he's in the way of having Helen and Yumi at the same time. It totally discounts their story and their characters for no real reason up to the point that DC shouldn't have bothered in the first place.

As said, yes, there are games that are specifically made to be harems and they do it well. But these games usually feature different setting and different casts. Then again, there are just as many really bad harem games where I've personally stopped playing at like ~80% because it just got random/boring as hell.


And that's fine. But at the same time some girls may not like to share, may hate other girls so much that they don't want to share with some specific girls but with others, some may not be compatible for other reasons etc. and I don't see why that shouldn't be as valid as your points.

As said before, the fact alone that some guys are too lazy to save and load a savegame doesn't convince me, personally.

For me this isn't about "realism" but about good and bad writing. At some point it usually simply often becomes so stupid that it's just not worth it anymore and I hope that won't happen to SS.

It's not about save and load. You have it all in the gallery. I understand that what I would like to see is something you won't, and the other way round. I hope we will both stay satisfied. As I said, the charme for me is having it all at the same time. Certainly that requires some good piece of story writing. And some thing might better left unwritten but only, if at all, hinted at, like the Eve/Roxxy thing I mentioned. Why must it be otherwise for, say, Mia/Helen?

 

[Dragon59]

hey there, i'm not the big expert of game like summertime saga, but i like the style of the game, can smb recommend some more game like SG? ( all the most popular games like milfy city, harem hotel, taffy tales i've already tried)

When I see SG in capitals like that, I immediately thought "Suicide Girls."

You already played most of them and any listing of other games will get deleted. Better go into the thread list/latest updates and look for yourself

Yeah, I made a joke post linking a bunch of the "summer" titles into one grand epic in one of the "summer" threads. It was popular, but eventually got deleted.

 

[NoZeR17]

In addition to what was said, you may sort that "Latest updates list" by weighted rating (the star on the very right) and you'll get some great options. One of the games that is a good contender would be "What a Legend!" which you'll find there, too. Next to that I'd highly recommend "a house in the rift".


That's certainly true when it comes to choices, though at the moment it looks like they are coming around to implementing more of them again, after it looked like most of them would be gone for good. But we'll only know once it's done.

What a legend is a cool game, but has lack of content 4 me, so i've decided to wait 4 more updates
about another game, thanks for the recommendation, i would try it out

 

[j4yj4m]

As I said, the charme for me is having it all at the same time. Certainly that requires some good piece of story writing. And some thing might better left unwritten but only, if at all, hinted at, like the Eve/Roxxy thing I mentioned. Why must it be otherwise for, say, Mia/Helen?

Well, you'll be able to get Mia and Helen in one playthrough, just not Helen and Yumi (at least that's as far as I know their current plans are going).
To me it's more about the default position. The stories should be great and veried on their own and then we can see the possibilities that arise to tie up the loose ends and make the relations possible, that seem possible or to simply leave things unmentioned, as you say. In that case it's up to those who want to get as many girls as possible to live with these inconsistencies, as it is now.

But that's a fundamentally different approach compared to "force" every girl in one single playthrough. I'm not against the former but pretty much against the latter. I totally don't mind the current situation as it is between let's say Eve and Roxxy, but right now I'd really be against adding content into the game that somehow creates a sharing situation, simply because it fits neither of their stories.

 

[srksrk 68]

Well, you'll be able to get Mia and Helen in one playthrough, just not Helen and Yumi (at least that's as far as I know their current plans are going).
To me it's more about the default position. The stories should be great and veried on their own and then we can see the possibilities that arise to tie up the loose ends and make the relations possible, that seem possible or to simply leave things unmentioned, as you say. In that case it's up to those who want to get as many girls as possible to live with these inconsistencies, as it is now.

But that's a fundamentally different approach compared to "force" every girl in one single playthrough. I'm not against the former but pretty much against the latter. I totally don't mind the current situation as it is between let's say Eve and Roxxy, but right now I'd really be against adding content into the game that somehow creates a sharing situation, simply because it fits neither of their stories.

Just asking myself: if MC can have Yumi, how should that fit into the various crossovers her story already has with Roxxy, Jenny, Debbie and Maria? And don't all the teachers not talk to one another?

 

[srksrk 68]

What a legend is a cool game, but has lack of content 4 me, so i've decided to wait 4 more updates
about another game, thanks for the recommendation, i would try it out

I would advise you to wait for the coming update which might drop soon, but definitely try that. It's very funny and has not so little content as you might think. Or do yo say you already played it and find the content lacking?

 

[j4yj4m]

Just asking myself: if MC can have Yumi, how should that fit into the various crossovers her story already has with Roxxy, Jenny, Debbie and Maria? And don't all the teachers not talk to one another?

I mean, she's one of the less important ones among the secondary characters, so I'd expect it to be similar to Liu where it's more a privat matter that'll happen in her flat or so and that won't influence interactions with other characters next to MC that much or even at all.

As for the teachers? I don't really know what's going to happen to them. All of them are secondary characters, too, so I don't know how much time DC wants to invest into connecting their stories or into adding scenes which involve multiple characters. I'd say everything seems possible here storywise but I doubt they'll be important enough to spend that much time on them.

 

[ThereIs]

Since we're on the subject and Cookie himself may be here, I'll ask the question everyone wants to know:

Will we be seeing any of Roz's twin sister Roze?
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"The name's RO-O-O-OZE!"

So if she is add in the game. Will MC have a threesome with her and Roz?
I should have ask this yesterday when DC was around.

 

[nilo96]

That's certainly true when it comes to choices, though at the moment it looks like they are coming around to implementing more of them again, after it looked like most of them would be gone for good. But we'll only know once it's done.

Yeah, but that's excatly what I meant by "boring" and "lazy". You just can't write a story like Eve's and then make her join a harem by having some magic tool. The same goes for making guys like Harold disappear or so because he's in the way of having Helen and Yumi at the same time. It totally discounts their story and their characters for no real reason up to the point that DC shouldn't have bothered in the first place.

And that's fine. But at the same time some girls may not like to share, may hate other girls so much that they don't want to share with some specific girls but with others, some may not be compatible for other reasons etc. and I don't see why that shouldn't be as valid as your points.

As said before, the fact alone that some guys are too lazy to save and load a savegame doesn't convince me, personally.

For me this isn't about "realism" but about good and bad writing. At some point it usually simply often becomes so stupid that it's just not worth it anymore and I hope that won't happen to SS.

There is certainly logic in your words, and i agree with it. I wanted to say that you need to use the splitting of stories only in the most extreme cases, when you cannot do without it, and in all the rest, use a single indivisible plot. For example, in the case of Helen and Yumi (as far as i understand, Mia will get us with any choice, right?), although here it is also possible that Harold heroically dies at the hands of bandits and integrity, logic, quality of the story does not suffer, and moreover, this allows the player to get more into the story and hate the villains more. As another example, Eric's story - the main character may well have a relationship with June and Mrs Johnson and you can do without dividing the story into independent paths, because Eric has his orc pipe and geek friends (don't remember their names) with whom he goes on raids in the dungeons.

In general, what want to say is you can write a logical good story without falsehood, without resorting to the "separation" technique. Moreover, the division of the story into different paths may indicate the lack of imagination of the screenwriter and his lack of professionalism and laziness.

 

[nilo96]

Don't forget that in the future the schoolgirl's sex scenes will be more exclusive because they'll be locked behind the dating system.

By the way, one more question: the dating system will assume only separate passage, it will not be possible to meet with several girls?

 

[guilhermelima]

Does anyone know how to resolve language error? I log into the game and activate the translation. The game works normally with the language I activated. When I save and try to load the game, it switches from language to English. Are there any console commands I can use to switch back to the language of my choice? Or is there another way to force the game to leave in my preferred language?
Thanks

 

[j4yj4m]

For example, in the case of Helen and Yumi (as far as i understand, Mia will get us with any choice, right?),

Yes, as far as their current plans seem to go, the schoolgirls are indeed meant to stay available for the dating/prom, so MC can't lock himself out of important characters before that. In their cases we may get different versions/endings of their stories, which is probably what DC hinted at in Annie's case.

although here it is also possible that Harold heroically dies at the hands of bandits and integrity, logic, quality of the story does not suffer, and moreover, this allows the player to get more into the story and hate the villains more. As another example, Eric's story - the main character may well have a relationship with June and Mrs Johnson and you can do without dividing the story into independent paths, because Eric has his orc pipe and geek friends (don't remember their names) with whom he goes on raids in the dungeons.

The problem here is more that it gets strange once it's everybody. Sure, you can have these things happen but it's just a bit sad when every male character in the game except MC is a cuck/looser/nerd/dead/gay/imprisoned/etc.
I do indeed like the fact that for example Sara won't be fuckable without Terry and that it looks like Harold will get a good ending, that Erik will have the possibilty to get his female Erik (June), etc. To me that enhances the writing and adds variety to the game.

By the way, one more question: the dating system will assume only separate passage, it will not be possible to meet with several girls?

Yes and (probably) no. The dating system is meant to be "plugged in" between the end of the schoolgirl stories and their sex scenes. So in for example Roxxy's case you wouldn't go straight to sex after beating Dexter, but MC would have to date her, unlock some smaller scenes to then eventually get her sex scenes and invite her to the prom. While that is happening there are supposed to be deductions if you date several schoolgirls at once.

But I don't think they'll go as far as to actually lock the sex scenes again after MC has unlocked them. I personally wouldn't expect that, except for the prom, maybe.

 

[nilo96]

The problem here is more that it gets strange once it's everybody. Sure, you can have these things happen but it's just a bit sad when every male character in the game except MC is a cuck/looser/nerd/dead/gay/imprisoned/etc.

I am in this completely with you. For example, in the story of Rhonda, it was not necessary to add her mother (I do not remember the name), as this would lead to the need to cucked Earl, and he is a normal dude. It would be better to focus on Rhonda herself and the rescuer than to spray time and energy on other characters. But the developer often sins with this - he introduces a huge number of female characters (which is good in itself), but it turns out that most have only 1-2 scenes, even for the main girls. In the case of Eric, i partially agree, let there be a choice, but hope that there will be no threesome with him - looking at his fat, freckled ass is not the greatest pleasure, and creating such a scene will require a huge amount of time that can be spent more profitably on other girls; Better a threesome with a trans-Eve that would be more interesting.

 

[nilo96]

Yes and (probably) no. The dating system is meant to be "plugged in" between the end of the schoolgirl stories and their sex scenes. So in for example Roxxy's case you wouldn't go straight to sex after beating Dexter, but MC would have to date her, unlock some smaller scenes to then eventually get her sex scenes and invite her to the prom. While that is happening there are supposed to be deductions if you date several schoolgirls at once.

Heck! I thought that after completing the main stories with the girls, it would be possible to take them somewhere on dates, to give suitable gifts, i.e. it will be something like expanding the story of the heroines - new dialogues will appear (we will find out some small, additional details about the heroines), events (for example, taking Eve to a rock concert) and new sex scenes (well, plееееease ). And so it turns out that you have to grind, as in many games "earning points", in order to gain access to what we already have. Nein! Nein! Nein!

 

[srksrk 68]

Does anyone know how to resolve language error? I log into the game and activate the translation. The game works normally with the language I activated. When I save and try to load the game, it switches from language to English. Are there any console commands I can use to switch back to the language of my choice? Or is there another way to force the game to leave in my preferred language?
Thanks

Incest patch does not work together with translations.

 

[exazubi]

Yes, as far as their current plans seem to go, the schoolgirls are indeed meant to stay available for the dating/prom, so MC can't lock himself out of important characters before that. In their cases we may get different versions/endings of their stories, which is probably what DC hinted at in Annie's case.


The problem here is more that it gets strange once it's everybody. Sure, you can have these things happen but it's just a bit sad when every male character in the game except MC is a cuck/looser/nerd/dead/gay/imprisoned/etc.
I do indeed like the fact that for example Sara won't be fuckable without Terry and that it looks like Harold will get a good ending, that Erik will have the possibilty to get his female Erik (June), etc. To me that enhances the writing and adds variety to the game.


Yes and (probably) no. The dating system is meant to be "plugged in" between the end of the schoolgirl stories and their sex scenes. So in for example Roxxy's case you wouldn't go straight to sex after beating Dexter, but MC would have to date her, unlock some smaller scenes to then eventually get her sex scenes and invite her to the prom. While that is happening there are supposed to be deductions if you date several schoolgirls at once.

But I don't think they'll go as far as to actually lock the sex scenes again after MC has unlocked them. I personally wouldn't expect that, except for the prom, maybe.

I also don't think so that the existing scenes will be locked again. or at least I hope so. rather, it should be such that there is a wild finale with every girl at the prom. Who knows, maybe we can finally get Roxxy pregnant

It will be interesting how the final is designed in general. Does every girl really lead to a final and thus to a separate end of the game? In this case we would be doomed to keep playing the game over and over to really see all the scenes. But it is possible. There are already routes where you have to decide. Or is the prom made as a repeatable event that you can have again and again and decide differently every time? That would correspond to the character of a sandbox game.