Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5091] [Kompas Productions]

[j4yj4m]

it makes it all look like absolutely no planning went into the original content...

Well, that's essentially what happened. The game was never meant to be a game but just a trial in which DC wanted to teach himself how to code. It became popular, he hired some people who continue to built on his stuff and after ~ 1,5 years he simply had to make a decision. To either make it properly, consistent and playable (including having a really playable supported andriod version) or to finish everything in a rushjob with partly really bad art, bad animation, no saves, no proper mobile version, etc. and most importantly no real prespective.

I don't think there are many people out there who really like that approach but I think it's price worth paying to have better game in the end.

Edit: Just to add, I don't think Mia's initial route will change much. After all she isn't like for example Jenny, where the original content was just really bad all around and had to be replaced.

 

[Ruodger]

Please, does anyone know how Jenny can get pregnant when the MC used an infertility pill? I'm using a save from the previous version as it says on the OP's cover page. But I can't keep up with the story at the mayor's house (even using the walkthrough) and Jenny keeps getting pregnant ... To correct, should I start over from scratch? The game is great, but great ... it would be a pain in the balls ...

 

[sogetthis]

When I look at the work of japanese team in term of "level of quality", "fantasm concept" and "speed process", Summertime saga were obviously far overestimated since the early beginning :
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If all those better teams can churn out as good or better work faster, where can I find all their games?

 

[Oriandu]

Mods should be locking threads before releases as they did.

No they shouldn't. Threads should never be locked, this forum suffers from mods who are far too heavy handed. Even discussion on related topics to the game a thread is on are stifled and quashed. This forum needs less oppressive moderation, not more oppressive moderation.

Anywho, are rumors still pegging it as today?

 

[j4yj4m]

Anywho, are rumors still pegging it as today?

Not really. Testing started less than 48h ago and I really doubt that they managed to produce a version without bugs right away. I'd say the end of the week/weekend is a reasonable guess.

 

[mrpopo69]

Well, that's essentially what happened. The game was never meant to be a game but just a trial in which DC wanted to teach himself how to code. It became popular, he hired some people who continue to built on his stuff and after ~ 1,5 years he simply had to make a decision. To either make it properly, consistent and playable (including having a really playable supported andriod version) or to finish everything in a rushjob with partly really bad art, bad animation, no saves, no proper mobile version, etc. and most importantly no real prespective.

I don't think there are many people out there who really like that approach but I think it's price worth paying to have better game in the end.

Edit: Just to add, I don't think Mia's initial route will change much. After all she isn't like for example Jenny, where the original content was just really bad all around and had to be replaced.

Jenny is actually an example of why I do not like the reworks because what ends up happening is a whole lot of content gets removed and she had some of the most fleshed out content at that point when it got a rework. This is not like Judith that has an easy to throwaway scene either, the original Jenny had a bunch of hours put into it

and with that said, there's a lot of perfectly good art that's gotten removed for other characters but basically the same situation. I wonder why some of this stuff isn't just thrown in as bonus content somewhere in the main menu. It really sucks that it all went poof

 

[2xjj]

Jenny is actually an example of why I do not like the reworks because what ends up happening is a whole lot of content gets removed and she had some of the most fleshed out content at that point when it got a rework. This is not like Judith that has an easy to throwaway scene either, the original Jenny had a bunch of hours put into it

and with that said, there's a lot of perfectly good art that's gotten removed for other characters but basically the same situation. I wonder why some of this stuff isn't just thrown in as bonus content somewhere in the main menu. It really sucks that it all went poof

None of Jenny's content was removed

 

[mrpopo69]

None of Jenny's content was removed

it was

 

[2xjj]

it was

Like what. None of her sex scenes were removed and her overall story was just rewritten. So I repeat myself none of Jenny's content was removed.

 

[Luxx]

You need to finish the Debbie (mom) route and then do the Debbie (aunt) route.

Its not a scene is it? Its not in the cookie jar....

 

[j4yj4m]

Jenny is actually an example of why I do not like the reworks because what ends up happening is a whole lot of content gets removed and she had some of the most fleshed out content at that point when it got a rework. This is not like Judith that has an easy to throwaway scene either, the original Jenny had a bunch of hours put into it

and with that said, there's a lot of perfectly good art that's gotten removed for other characters but basically the same situation.

Interesting, in my opinion her "story" wasn't even a real story but merely a collection horrible quests (earning money to either give her the money or to buy her stuff, both repeated several times to bloat the content) and completely random events, like joining her in the shower or sneaking into her bed for no given reason. Personally I'm not sad that it finally got replaced with something that's decent, given that it was probably the worst part of the game.

I wonder why some of this stuff isn't just thrown in as bonus content somewhere in the main menu. It really sucks that it all went poof

Because it just wasn't up to standard and it will stick out negatively at some point. That said, in Jenny's case basically everything got replaced anyway, so it's not like in Diane's case, where somewhat relevant content got "lost" (at least for now).

 

[Rando Civ]

Bet. Time for NTR in Summertime Saga. We need Dexter to reveal he's the world's most impressive grower and have him fuck Mia.

No thank you.

 

[mrpopo69]

Interesting, in my opinion her "story" wasn't even a real story but merely a collection horrible quests (earning money to either give her the money or to buy her stuff, both repeated several times to bloat the content) and completely random events, like joining her in the shower or sneaking into her bed for no given reason. Personally I'm not sad that it finally got replaced with something that's decent, given that it was probably the worst part of the game.

Because it just wasn't up to standard and it will stick out negatively at some point. That said, in Jenny's case basically everything got replaced anyway, so it's not like in Diane's case, where somewhat relevant content got "lost" (at least for now).

I think the only reason they don't put them in the game as bonus content is so the file download is smaller. Jenny's content did eventually get readded but she also got some different toy scenes that I think are gone for good. Diane's original milkings are the ones I was thinking of as well yeah. There are variations in the newest versions so there is a net gain overall with the reworks but I wouldn't mind being able to access since they exist out there. I might be in the minority but I would tolerate the old "choppy" sex animations mixed with the newer ones (which there still are in other stories) but I understand that DC does what he wants like we see with the character model changes or replacing/adding new ones which are trivial to the story but internet culture references etc

 

[Zephrah]

Please, does anyone know how Jenny can get pregnant when the MC used an infertility pill? I'm using a save from the previous version as it says on the OP's cover page. But I can't keep up with the story at the mayor's house (even using the walkthrough) and Jenny keeps getting pregnant ... To correct, should I start over from scratch? The game is great, but great ... it would be a pain in the balls ...

Have you tried NOT cumming inside of her for a while? Just a thought.

 

[lostraven]

Not saying you have to make games to be allowed to criticise them, but yes, trying yourself in an amateurish way to make like 5% of the work and learning you have to do to make a game, might help to get a better understanding of the time and effort it takes. Most people talking shit about devs have low artistic and technical knowledge of the process. So they think you snap your finger and it's done.

As a Dev myself (Working on Taffy Tales and my own separate unannounced 2D project), I can say safely the work is never as fast as we hope/want, especially 2D.

Of course, careful management and having the manpower available to help with certain tasks obviously helps speed things up, but there's a difference between throwing together some trash and actually crafting something that's fun and engaging.

 

[ManOfCulture88]

hmm I've been playing this game recently, but hardly anything associated with the main story, just the henchmen showing up from time to time, think the author will circle back to it at some point?

 

[suwanka]

I'm not really complaining since I find the relationships kind of cute, but it seems odd to be dating a christian girl that barely knows what her vagina looks like and the most popular girl (I guess?) and there's no sneaking around or anything. They just exist in parallel dimensions or something. iirc Eve seems to know what goes on in the private tutoring sessions but is completely uninterested in the MC's participation.

I haven't played since 19.0 and that was just to play the Eve content so my memory may be incomplete. I just kind of got shocked at Eve's excited kiss when she met the MC for the first time after I finished 19.0 and I was like, are we dating?

It would be funny if what the MC's dad was into was some sort of parallel dimension thing and he got disappeared. but before this happens, he imbues his son with the power to travel interdimensionally in a way that isn't obvious to him.

 

[RMelton]

hmm I've been playing this game recently, but hardly anything associated with the main story, just the henchmen showing up from time to time, think the author will circle back to it at some point?

The main story is exactly what the next update will be focused on.

 

[MurkyTurtle]

I'm not really complaining since I find the relationships kind of cute, but it seems odd to be dating a christian girl that barely knows what her vagina looks like and the most popular girl (I guess?) and there's no sneaking around or anything. They just exist in parallel dimensions or something. iirc Eve seems to know what goes on in the private tutoring sessions but is completely uninterested in the MC's participation.

I haven't played since 19.0 and that was just to play the Eve content so my memory may be incomplete. I just kind of got shocked at Eve's excited kiss when she met the MC for the first time after I finished 19.0 and I was like, are we dating?

It would be funny if what the MC's dad was into was some sort of parallel dimension thing and he got disappeared. but before this happens, he imbues his son with the power to travel interdimensionally in a way that isn't obvious to him.

I agree with you that it's weird, but that's a consequence of this game being developed piece-meal and each individual character getting their own isolated storyline. At some point the plan is to combine everything together into a unified dating system that should reflect the fact that you can't reasonably sleep with 15 different women without at least one or two of them making some form of acknowledgement or getting angry, but trying to update such a system with each successive release would be maddening. The amount of bitching about bugs and the delays caused by the fixing thereof that we get around here is bad enough without adding another thing to break.

Something to look forward to whenever this game is finished, which at the current pace should be in about 4 years or so.

 

[Ruodger]

Have you tried NOT cumming inside of her for a while? Just a thought.

Yes, also cumming out ... she got pregnant ... just the next day, she sends a message that we go to her room and informs us that she is pregnant.