Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.5258] [Kompas Productions]

[Morah SDG]

That's really not how advertisments and influencing work, but if that's really what you think, I get why people don't understand how SS can still be this popular when everybody on F95 is talking shit about it for 2 years straight.

In reality quite a few of those, who had a wank to these videos may search for the game afterwards and find DC's homepage/patreon. That's one of the reasons why his patron count stays as high as it is.

Something I was curious about reading as a fellow developer, is that is StS officially on PornHub? Like do they have a media presence there, or is it just some people put clips of it on the Hub? To me it’s always some person speaking/awkwardly muttering in another language while VASTLY skipping through the game.

Does that really generate enough popular interest?

 

[Green Layer]

It's funny how

Depends on who you ask. Officially the reason for lack of content is because of the tech-update taking way longer than expected to be done. There's a mix of other claims by people here that DC is milking this tech-update out on purpose.

• The tech-update is focused on recoding the whole game because it sucked and was a pest to work with.
• Bringing the whole game to 21:9 aspect ratio so we don't have those black bars anymore and fills the screen up nicely. That means redoing all of the art to fit the screen.
• Reposing character assets
• Improving UI and some art

The scope has seemingly increased though, to what extent is not sure but DC has worked on a lot of art, both new and improved, so we might see this update as a full overhaul of the game as opposed to just being purely technical enhancements.

but aint 2 years like, enough time to finish the work ?

like there are alot of other devs hiring co-workers to speed things up, Take NLT for example: those guys cranked up 3 huge games while this remake was being worked on.

 

[Badjourasmix]

At this point it's not surprising that even the supporters would start to get mad. They were told that the tech update would take 9 months and 3 years later it's not even close to being finished.

 

[itsyeboii]

it’s always some person speaking/awkwardly muttering in another language while VASTLY skipping through the game.

That's how the majority of people play the game as well.

 

[D2K]

Are you actually willing to explain the difference when it comes to advertising value? People see game X, want to play it, and download it. Does it matter whether you find that game here or on pornhub?

it is a bit disingenuous. this forum is 100% porn game enthusiasts. we are more likely to spend money on porn games, we are the direct target audience. i would think the people on pornhub are watching a vid, spanking it, and then closing their tab after post nut clarity more so than running to patreon and signing up.

i'm not saying these sites don't bring awareness to the game but saying f95 doens't have influence is crazy.

 

[Xupuzulla]

it is a bit disingenuous. this forum is 100% porn game enthusiasts. we are more likely to spend money on porn games, we are the direct target audience. i would think the people on pornhub are watching a vid, spanking it, and then closing their tab after post nut clarity more so than running to patreon and signing up.

i'm not saying these sites don't bring awareness to the game but saying f95 doens't have influence is crazy.

Is such a dishonest argument,like i said before is just cheap whataboutism.
"WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER POPULAR SITE?"
People can actually download the game here,saying pornhub is more important than site is degenerate.

 

[j4yj4m]

All the sites are talking shit,4chan,reddit.

As said, that's happening for years and his numbers even started growing. Tell me, how do you explain his numbers?

i would think the people on pornhub are watching a vid, spanking it, and then closing their tab after post nut clarity more so than running to patreon and signing up.

Am I really the only one who at times remembers some of the models and in some cases even publishers to find more material for later?

i'm not saying these sites don't bring awareness to the game but saying f95 doens't have influence is crazy.

At least I explicitly didn't say that, though. I just said that F95 matters less to SS than it does to most other games around here and that it has significant other sources of attention. And I'd stick to that opinion. There's just no way that tens of millions of views don't lead to an substancial increase in revenue for DC.

Edit: It really doesn't take a lot of people by these standards. He's losing about 3.000 to 4.000 patrons a month, so all he needs is another 3.000 to 4.000 new ones to subscribe.

 

[itsyeboii]

but aint 2 years like, enough time to finish the work ?

like there are alot of other devs hiring co-workers to speed things up, Take NLT for example: those guys cranked up 3 huge games while this remake was being worked on.

You'd think so, STS is a pretty big game with a lot of content and a sandbox element to it, and apparently they didn't estimate it would be as much work as it is and there were some development issues. Still, with all that, 3 years is way too fucking long, no one's going to deny that.

I don't know why he doesn't hire more or better developers, maybe there's a good reason for it, throwing more people at a problem can often not work, or even make it harder. Maybe DC being as bad at managing as he already is, doesn't want more people under his wing that he needs to manage, or he's just too lazy to do so, he always says he just wants to draw. Or maybe he's a cheapskate, or wants the progress to go slower so he gets more money for less work.

Who tf knows, its a shitshow.

 

[Badjourasmix]

Is summertime saga on pornhub? I haven't watched regular porn in years so I don't know what is going on there. But I remember someone doing a playthrough on youtube a couple of years ago.

 

[j4yj4m]

Something I was curious about reading as a fellow developer, is that is StS officially on PornHub? Like do they have a media presence there, or is it just some people put clips of it on the Hub? To me it’s always some person speaking/awkwardly muttering in another language while VASTLY skipping through the game.

Does that really generate enough popular interest?

He himself doesn't do anything, but for example

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will certainly have brought a decent amount of attention (I just chose a random SS video from her, she's probably got the whole game online in some form or another).

Edit: Of course DC himself does stream several times a week on picarto, which (next to his own viewers) in return generates quite a bit of third party content on youtube, facebook, X & co. simply because people rip off content from his stream and post it as news.

 

[dukeigthorn]

By the sounds of the recent announcement, they likely got over ambitious with some of the improvements they wanted to implement. The fact that the coding completion amount is still so low is a little confusing though since, unless I'm mistaken, this is a renpy game. Maybe they're trying to improve those bad mini games or something. Anyway, by the sounds of it the full tech update is still months away. Maybe even years. Maybe they'll still have patrons by then who knows?

 

[Green Layer]

You'd think so, STS is a pretty big game with a lot of content and a sandbox element to it, and apparently they didn't estimate it would be as much work as it is and there were some development issues. Still, with all that, 3 years is way too fucking long; no one's going to deny that.

I don't know why he doesn't hire more or better developers, maybe there's a good reason for it, throwing more people at a problem can often not work or even make it harder. Maybe DC being as bad at managing as he already is, doesn't want more people under his wing that he needs to manage, or he's just too lazy to do so; he always says he just wants to draw. Or maybe he's a cheapskate or wants the progress to go slower so he gets more money for less work.

Who the heck knows, its a shitshow.

Well, that was most likely the case in the last statements. Hiring more people with better skills actually elevates the management aspect, as you could focus more on proofreading and directing the flow of work.

Hell, even people with coding skills here would be willing to help him for free to some extent to get the updates out faster. you just need to be sincere about the shit.

 

[itsyeboii]

Well, that was most likely the case in the last statements. Hiring more people with better skills actually elevates the management aspect, as you could focus more on proofreading and directing the flow of work.

Hell, even people with coding skills here would be willing to help him for free to some extent to get the updates out faster. you just need to be sincere about the shit.

I think he's genuinely just too lazy to manage people doing work. Hiring people with better skills will elevate the management aspect, but DC doesn't want that, he wants shit to be as laidback as possible and just draw stuff.

 

[PayneToTheMax]

Is such a dishonest argument,like i said before is just cheap whataboutism.
"WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER POPULAR SITE?"
People can actually download the game here,saying pornhub is more important than site is degenerate.

Is degenerate the best you can come up with on a porn website? News flash, we're all degenerates here. I figured you'd realize that sooner, bubba.

I think he's genuinely just too lazy to manage people doing work. Hiring people with better skills will elevate the management aspect, but DC doesn't want that, he wants shit to be as laidback as possible and just draw stuff.

It apparently stems from his old job, where he experienced how someone always hovering doesn't actually help and thus he goes with the laidback approach since, that naturally got to be better.

 

[Ifllslonly]

What a dumb argument,if that was the case Overwatch should be the biggest game on earth just because of pornhub popularity but inst.
You know why?
Because people go to pornhub to bust a nut,not to find videogames to download.

I couldn't agree more. It's basically the difference between targeted ads and random shit ads. But to say that random ads are worthless isn't right.

The problem is that this game is forever in this state. And the abandoned tag itself will never change anything on a global scale. It's just nice that abandoned game now have the abandoned tag.
DC is just a reflection of the industry as a whole. He's a full-time developer, top 1 adult game developer on Patreon who doesn't deliver at all. It's just nonsense to defend him.

 

[GNova]

wait, he is going to start updating the game from piece to piece after like, idk 2 or 3 years of tech update???? seriously?

 

[Lust4Lucy]

Even MC joined the dark side, the movement

"Abandoned" t-shirts on sale for only $25k ​

 

[j4yj4m]

It's basically the difference between targeted ads and random shit ads.

Hm? People who find SS on platforms like pornhub will likely be actively looking for 2D porn and they'll get free 2D porn.

and @Xupuzulla:
Of course you won't download Overwatch if you want to have porn, as it's not a porn game. But people would download SS if they want to have porn, because it's just that. I'm not sure what's controversial about that.

 

[Ottoeight]

Surprise, surprise.

Abandoned tag... and the Dude immediately announces a release date.

F95 Admins should change the tag rule and lower the bar from 18 months to 12 months.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Hm? People who find SS on platforms like pornhub will likely be actively looking for 2D porn and they'll get free 2D porn.

and @Xupuzulla:
Of course you won't download Overwatch if you want to have porn, as it's not a porn game. But people would download SS if they want to have porn, because it's just that. I'm not sure what's controversial about that.

JEEZ i wonder what site would be great to download SS
I give a clue of the name of this famous site,starts with F and ends with 95.
This is my whole argument,you try to act like this place inst relevant when this is one of the best places to download the game in the first place!