Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.6440] [Kompas Productions]

[sinbarrabajas]

This new patch have 0 content. Why dont implement this new mechanic and let the rest of the content?

 

[geshgowe72]

It's been long time i haven't touch this game. Did pre-tech already complete for story line ?

yes, you can play that version for full storyline, also you can only play that version for full storyline because by the time tech update already gets finished, you are already going to be 70 years old.

 

[vanesa13]

I can't wait for updates!

 

[ppunyhg48]

I played this game hundreds of years ago on my old cell phone, it hasn't been completed yet
I'm so damn old omg

 

[C3realkill4r]

Eight weeks until the next update—will it be a letdown like the most recent one? Goddamn, I hope not.

 

[Maulis47]

the devs could have wrapped it up, update the game to 1.0, stop forcing people to paying a monthly subscription via patreon to play the game, making efforts to put this on a store for instance like steam or itch.io for a single time purchase

This is a free game not locked behind a paywall btw. Also from what I heard dc has long since planned a "never ending" game.

 

[CarolusRex]

It was a video showing people in v21.0.0-wip.5003 back when it was released.
Like I said to the other person in the first post that I linked for you - "Then you're doing it wrong."

You want me to hand hold you?
Here it is in v21.0.0-wip.6011 - the same actions as in the previous video.
I hadn't even unzipped wip.6011 before this. I specifically unzipped it for this training video.

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Was that so hard?
You're welcome.

Thanks for the video. I was not aware you had to klick several times.
I clicked once and only got the reply about not fiddling with the network settings.
No check-box. Will try again in the weekend

 

[Lupin the 3rd]

where we at since this was posted last year
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[Keetos0]

This is a free game not locked behind a paywall btw. Also from what I heard dc has long since planned a "never ending" game.

the game is patreon funded, according to their site you can download it for free yes, the game itself is not free, without the patreons the development would stop

going through their FAQs saves carrying over is not guaranteed, bugs are hard to iron out when the game gets reworked from the ground up with every build so what we have access to is not the complete game or an early access game but a beta build

 

[Count Morado]

the game is patreon funded, according to their site you can download it for free yes, the game itself is not free, without the patreons the development would stop

You're changing your argument. We all agree with most of the above. In fact, that is the whole mission of Patreon... For creators to get paid. Something repeated often in this and many other threads.

Your initial argument was:

forcing people to paying a monthly subscription via patreon to play the game

which is false in the case of this game.

The game is free. Just like Public Radio is free. Just like Public TV is free. There are contributors who give money so that it remains free - and in exchange they get bonuses and perks. Similar with how Dark Cookie handles subs - they get tier benefits in exchange for their contribution... So that everyone can have access to the game for free.

And Dark Cookie has been explicit in the past - if people don't like how he's doing things, don't subscribe. If you are a sub and don't like what's happening, stop subbing.

Subscribers have the power to make their own choices.

going through their FAQs saves carrying over is not guaranteed, bugs are hard to iron out when the game gets reworked from the ground up with every build so what we have access to is not the complete game or an early access game but a beta build

hence the framework of a game being "in development" just like the thousands of games and VNs found on this site.

Also, again, you are wrong the game is not rebuilt from the ground up with every build.

If you want to continue your excessive discussion of the development (Rule 2.7), I recommend moving to the off topic thread where it belongs

 

[Keetos0]

i feel like thats not quite 100% accurate, but i do understand where youre coming from. from the sounds of it the devs want to make a fully complete game where ALL the side characters have some kind of storyline, but i do agree the game was in a far more developed state before. that being said i would guess only around 50-60% of the content they want the final version to have was actually implemented in the original game before the tech update(s), they have a hell of a lot more planned. i do agree that keeping the monthly patreon subscription open was not the best and i do agree that the progress was alarmingly slow during that period, but i do still think there was far too much content that needed to be added before the game was complete for them to put off doing the rework/remaster until it was complete.

as for the "expansion pack/DLC". i understand the argument but if you try to actually figure out what that would mean, its just that it would mean they slowly release more and more content as development continues instead of waiting until the game is entirely completeto release the game, aka exactly what they were doing before the tech update and what they are continuing to do after the tech update. the only difference is now the game has been reworked to a point where they need to play catch-up with themselves so these "expansion packs" are actually just "catch-up packs" to get them to the point they were before the big rework, once they reach that point then it will be expansion packs as you know them.

im just as frustrated as everyone else is with this projects current state, but i also know this is likely the best course of action in the long run. after the rework, the dev team will have had to entirely rework everything behind the scenes as well such as their workflow processes (how the build is planned, how the build is prototyped, how they code, how art is implemented, how the build is tested, how is quality checked, etc.) which is going to dramatically increase development time in the short run while they adjust their entire development workflow to the changes that they will have needed to make.




yea i do agree that the long period of time it took for what is; (all things considered, as mentioned above) quite a small amount of content, is a bit extreme and quite honestly suspicious. BUT im glad the devs are tackling the game again, so hopefully development picks up a little

i'm sorry but I strongly disagree with the 50-60% finished statement you brought up, nobody can deny the highly open endedness of the game

but when:

-all the characters in the main story are flashed out

-minigames, secrets, side characters are great and in the dozens

-all the main story locations are implemented

-the story itself is completed(with a proper ending and all)



we are really not talking 50-60% completion

 

[NobodySmith]

Man I was hoping we were gonna get another banger of a scene like the mutual masturbation couch scene this patch.

Welp what's another 2 months, see you then lol

 

[Spunky448]

My comment will return in future updates

 

[Tanliarian]

I just play the old version (20.16) until it catches up again. I figure it will be caught up by the next Summer Olympics maybe. Can't wait to see how the UI and stuff look different.

 

[Karminator]

Huh...i remember playing this game year's ago i remember there used to be more content...

 

[Count Morado]

Huh...i remember playing this game year's ago i remember there used to be more content...

see changelog.
Play "stable" version v0.20.16 for the most content
Play "preview" version v21.0.0-wip.6011 to see what changes are being made to VN as content is slowly added back in.

 

[lamba]

Whoever said "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" never met the coomers of F95.

"But I have to complain about a game I got for free and make no contributions to! They could be making the game faster!"

If you don't like a game you should never drop comments because all you are doing is generating buzz for the game.

The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. The biggest insult you can give someone is to ignore them.

the game is patreon funded, according to their site you can download it for free yes, the game itself is not free, without the patreons the development would stop

Somehow I think DC would just go back to doing it as a hobby side gig if the money dried up. If you're not contributing... the game is free. It's not your job to play hall monitor for how other people spend their money, no matter how stupid it is.

 

[Count Morado]

Somehow I think DC would just go back to doing it as a hobby side gig if the money dried up. If you're not contributing... the game is free. It's not your job to play hall monitor for how other people spend their money, no matter how stupid it is.

Yup. Also note, not much has changed in over 2 years.

He still has ~$35-40k to lose before he gets back to his last pledge goal, which won't be soon.

He made a Patreon so that people who like the game can donate to help him make it (just like how Patreon has worked since they started), he wasn't expecting much in the early days. He also made a few builds before going to Patreon.

"He takes more than 1/2 the $", so what ? If the dudes he hired (probably with contracts) were ok with how much they get, who cares what DC does with the remaining $.

He also said he'd be willing to continue making the game even if the monthly pledges were 0$, which until proven otherwise by him stopping the dev if he gets there, is still the best reason why $ doesn't matter. Even if the entire board gets butthurt about it

(emphasis mine)

 

[Necromant]

Is this abandon om starting to think the game developer went bankrupt

 

[Count Morado]

Is this abandon om starting to think the game developer went bankrupt

Yup. You should unfollow the thread and give up hope.

Enjoy your life.