obibobi

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Complaining people aren't "complaining about the complaining". Complaining people are complaining about the baseless speculations.
I don't even know what you mean by this. Even then people speculate about lots of things so to me this still boils down to you not liking it.
 
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PayneToTheMax

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I was sure the long wait for an update was because of DC dealing with the incest-policy that hit these other top-tier games a few months ago. I pointed this out a good few pages before this shitstorm hit, and it looks like DC just "hoped" the shitstorm wouldn't affect his project as he was not prepared for it.

It's sad to say, but the policy Patreon issued was bound to happen sooner or later.
Personally, I think he should put it up to a vote. Change platform/make a new game/rewrite the story.
Making a new game is not an option seeing how much work already went into Summertime Saga. This isn't some DAZ game.
 

Trapezio

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I was sure the long wait for an update was because of DC dealing with the incest-policy that hit these other top-tier games a few months ago. I pointed this out a good few pages before this shitstorm hit, and it looks like DC just "hoped" the shitstorm wouldn't affect his project as he was not prepared for it.

It's sad to say, but the policy Patreon issued was bound to happen sooner or later.
Personally, I think he should put it up to a vote. Change platform/make a new game/rewrite the story.
Here we are: just another example of baseless speculation.

Sorry, but no. Drawing takes a lot of time. Just watch ONE of his streams: he makes a couple - at best - of complete sketches in 2 hours and a half, usually.

And He IS prepared.

And personally, I THINK he should do - and he will do - what he wants to do, because his game is his game.
 

TastySnickers

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I will never understand why do they have to fight against the abuse of fictional characters, do they truly need to be protected against rape, incest and any other bad thing?.

I find it so stupid...
I suppose so that they do not promote this kind of stuff as normal. Really just SJW stuff if you ask me. Someone here mentioned it was illegal for them to continue without banning the incest stuff. For me that is bullshit, they could be like G2A- site which does not care if the keys are stolen or legally obtained. They just keep their mouth shut, take their money and let their customers choose the seller at their own risk. Also why the sudden interest in banning these kind of games? Why they didn't removed them 1 or 2 years ago?
 
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Tom195t

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Always look on the bright side. Because there is a good side to what happened. Probably too many game makers put in incest as the most important attraction in their games. Completely forgetting about art, script and dialogues. Unfavorable conditions create pressure and lead to acute selection. We should remember that diamonds are created under enormous pressure:)
 

rle68

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Almost always the "complaining about the complaining"

im going to call no to this statement only because alot not all but alot of the so called complaints are nothing but baseless bullshit saying hes stealing money, thats not a valued criticism

im as critical as anyone else but .. just saying someone is stealing money without offering proof is baseless bullshit
 

DawnCry

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Almost always the "complaining about the complaining"

im going to call no to this statement only because alot not all but alot of the so called complaints are nothing but baseless bullshit saying hes stealing money, thats not a valued criticism

im as critical as anyone else but .. just saying someone is stealing money without offering proof is baseless bullshit
I think the same, however an interesting point that people forget is that ok, until 6000$ perhaps you more or less can say to use it on x or y, but there are multiple levels of money, I don't think that 30000$ would all go into the game each month.

Another point is that people who receive patreon money don't have a contract or something that makes them focus on the game, patreon money is a donation so even if the creator doesn't work at all nothing but ethics are in the way to do so.

Last point is that it's truly hard to determine if a creator is focusing on his/her game and working as much as he says, the most you can do here is if you are unsatisfied with the progress then don't support him. That's why it's very interesting to support finished projects, however at the same time because of the patreon model we can have extremely big adult games.
 

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I don't think that 30000$ would all go into the game each month.
Of course not, he works full-time on this so part of it goes to living expenses. Part of it goes to his team, hosting of his own site, and likely saving for situations like this.
 

DawnCry

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Of course not, he works full-time on this so part of it goes to living expenses. Part of it goes to his team, hosting of his own site, and likely saving for situations like this.
Captain obvious to the rescue? XD, sorry but had to say it because of your comment. I think it was pretty much implied all you said, and exactly the part you quoted was meaning for the "dead money" part, money that should just be distributed/taken because there is no reason for it to remain, it will have no use in the development.
 

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He claims that if a trustworthy platform like Patreon ever pops up, he will jump ships and re-add the original content.

Honestly, I still think he was way to unprepared after all the time he was given.
Source: (Ontopic around 03:00)
Maker Support has been gaining much traction lately he should've gone their right after the policy changes. That aside DC has another problem he needs deal with before it gets out of hand and that's the panic this kind of set back will cause. This of thing would kill a project's community support. We've already seen folks saying "RIP SS" and "Will not support censorship" on this forum alone.
 

Jake9009

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What a fuckin idiot. I stopped playing around 13.5 because the updates had gotten stale and wanted to wait for more content come back to see this shit. Day one supporter. DC is a moron, great job destroying your livelihood.
 
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Skaldy

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Maker Support has been gaining much traction lately he should've gone their right after the policy changes. That aside DC has another problem he needs deal with before it gets out of hand and that's the panic this kind of set back will cause. This of thing would kill a project's community support. We've already seen folks saying "RIP SS" and "Will not support censorship" on this forum alone.
Some people are just wanna be trolls and some people give up too quickly. I would rather chase this game's success other than waiting another 5-10 years for some developer to start seriously making decent games
 

Morgandr

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Who cares if he patches out incest content, as long as some good hearted fellow home-made patches it back in...
 

Duriel

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Who cares if he patches out incest content, as long as some good hearted fellow home-made patches it back in...
Exactly my thoughts, the fact that he is going to adjust names (based on latest indiscretions) to solve the issue opens the door to patching the incest stuff in after each release, either by him or fans, similar to what happens in incestral awakening.

The incest part is the core of the game for many of his supporters, i believe he thought about some backup plan, if he didn't, fans will do it.
 
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