VN Ren'Py Completed Sunshine Love [Ch. 3 v1.01i Extras] [MrDots Games]

[Hyperserver]

It's not the whatever you do... it it's how you do the whatever...

still the same outcome - if they don't like HOW we do things - just they should leave.
The mayority likes what and HOW we do things, and we certainly will not change anything because of them.

There are 3 games now and everyone knows how we do. Why are they still here complaining how we do things? We will not change at all because of them - be assured

 

[RG80100]

So I have read somewhere here and on discord that Devs are planning on releasing a totally vanilla type project next. Who's buying into that S.... Lol
Because I can't, I call it bs.

typically the post who make me laugh because MrDots was often criticize because their games was too vanilla

 

[Uthuriel]

still the same outcome - if they don't like HOW we do things - just they should leave.
The mayority likes what and HOW we do things, and we certainly will not change anything because of them.

There are 3 games now and everyone knows how we do. Why are they still here complaining how we do things? We will not change at all because of them - be assured

That's the issue though? How things are done?
The Patreon is in steady decline...
Constant excuse for things...
I told you long ago that you guys have to figure out what kind of devs you wanna be when DMD is done...
Do you want content in your games that could be interpreted as NTRish or not? If yes, then do a proper NTR game. If not scrap those ideas.

The sad thing is you guys haven't learned anything from the recent backlash... do you really think the people sub to you for the main LI to cheat on the MC or that the twins are hookers now? I'd say the graph below says no... also there are other games that deal with those things way "better".

 

[Hyperserver]

That's the issue though? How things are done?
The Patreon is in steady decline...
Constant excuse for things...
I told you long ago that you guys have to figure out what kind of devs you wanna be when DMD is done...
Do you want content in your games that could be interpreted as NTRish or not? If yes, then do a proper NTR game. If not scrap those ideas.

The sad thing is you guys haven't learned anything from the recent backlash... do you really think the people sub to you for the main LI to cheat on the MC or that the twins are hookers now? I'd say the graph below says no... also there are other games that deal with those things way "better".

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you forgot the 2k subscribestar members - still raising.
Fact is, we have more supporters than ever. Since problems on patreon, the members over there are declining - that's true. But overall numbers are raising and with 5.4k subs we are at our all-time-high just right now.
So aside that's off-topic, just let it be OUR problem whether numbers go down or not.
If you are one of those, who don't like HOW we do things, you should be happy then - aren't you?
WE are happy - at least

 

[AlphaBit]

typically the post who make me laugh because MrDots was often criticize because their games was too vanilla

Ok so I found the post where it was said, their next project will be a haremish one (keyword is project) with no ntr, no cheating, no sharing in the game or side stories whatsoever
I said vanilla because most harem stories are vanilla.

already announced - will be a (possible) full harem game. Storyline is already done, and the first scenes are already on storyboard fleshed out. No ntr, no cheating, no sharing (with males)
More info later this year.

So again I would like to say that I am not buying into this plain and simple BS.

 

[KeiNineX]

This whole backlash is literally only because the devs are trying to bullshit people. If they just dropped this "We all hate ntr and don't want to make games with it, our games will never have ntr" thing and started being honest, a lot of this toxicity would go away. But no, they want to bullshit people and then they try to play a victim how everyone is so unfair being mean and toxic to them. Just make it make sense...

 

[Hyperserver]

This whole backlash is literally only because the devs are trying to bullshit people. If they just dropped this "We all hate ntr and don't want to make games with it, our games will never have ntr" thing and started being honest, a lot of this toxicity would go away. But no, they want to bullshit people and then they try to play a victim how everyone is so unfair being mean and toxic to them. Just make it make sense...

nope ....

The thing is, WE take definitions how they are really meant and not how people over here think they have to be.
This is no official site of us in ANY way!
We do not care about tags applied by moderators over here, nor do we feature them.
On our official site, and on our fan-discord, there are our official statements and how we define things.
If people take our words out of context and compare them to some weird standards and/or definitions over here, it's not our fault.

It's like an english native "fixer" (who actually repairs things) can come to Germany and wonder why he gets problems just because a "fixer" is a junkie over here.

On F95 we might have NTR by the definition over here, but for those who really know what NTR means, we don't. Overall it doesn't change anything.
If you like it, then play it. If you don't like it, then leave it.
Why bother if there is NTR, NRT, TRN, TNR, RTN, RNT, ...TNT or WTF? A simple tag doesn't change anything about the game - even less when it's used with wrong definitions.

 

[Uthuriel]

nope ....

The thing is, WE take definitions how they are really meant and not how people over here think they have to be.
This is no official site of us in ANY way!
We do not care about tags applied by moderators over here, nor do we feature them.
On our official site, and on our fan-discord, there are our official statements and how we define things.
If people take our words out of context and compare them to some weird standards and/or definitions over here, it's not our fault.

If that were true then Hearsz wouldn't have panic rewritten the scene... and don't act like there was no drama on discord either... I was there and saw it and talked with Hearsz too...

A simple tag doesn't change anything about the game.

And that is where you're wrong... a tag can be the fall or rise of a game... I would even say the tags are the most important things.
It's the second thing people look at apart from the name of the game.

 

[Dragon59]

They think he's Mc and the girls cheat on him.I also had a friend who thought he was Alexander the Great,now he's in a psychiatric clinic.
They probably don't like their own personality and are trying to steal someone else's character.
play this wonderful game from a neutral side and you will enjoy it.
Personally, I don't mind if the girls of this game get fucked by a hundred men together in group sex, I would like that.

I collect a lot of facepalms from the usual suspects whenever I mention some people may be taking immersion to an extreme. I see you've started your own collection. Since they count the same as a like, enjoy!

if you didn't sleep in biology class then you know that belly won't start growing until much much later than where game date currently is.

Perhaps they're basing their understanding of biology from a certain hand drawn game where the belly shows in days and the baby is born within a week.

1st of all that wasn't 1st time they "explored" each other but 1st time was wayyyyyy before time mc arrives to sb and 2ndly since you dislike this so much then why are you still here?.

For me, the scene is not NTR, Broad NTR, Weak NTR or any of that. I think it's having my LI's being with each other is great. It's something I would have loved to have happen.

In my experience, if one can't handle two of your partners enjoying each other, one is probably not secure enough to have multiple partners.

Also, I'm not so extremely immersed in these games that I would take things as a personal affront.

 

[Dragon59]

That's the issue though? How things are done?
The Patreon is in steady decline...
Constant excuse for things...
I told you long ago that you guys have to figure out what kind of devs you wanna be when DMD is done...
Do you want content in your games that could be interpreted as NTRish or not? If yes, then do a proper NTR game. If not scrap those ideas.

The sad thing is you guys haven't learned anything from the recent backlash... do you really think the people sub to you for the main LI to cheat on the MC or that the twins are hookers now? I'd say the graph below says no... also there are other games that deal with those things way "better".

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We got another business and marketing expert here!

 

[AlphaBit]

If that were true then Hearsz wouldn't have panic rewritten the scene... and don't act like there was no drama on discord either... I was there and saw it and talked with Hearsz too...

Lol you wouldn't believe what I just saw on their discord, can't even post it here openly because it will be out right insulting to one of their team member. I do not want to do that. Just search ntr in the server and you will be greeted with 992 results of ntr rants.

 

[Uthuriel]

We got another business and marketing expert here!

Implying you need to be a marketing expert to see a curve go down...

 

[Uthuriel]

Lol you wouldn't believe what I just saw on their discord, can't even post it here openly because it will be out right insulting to one of their team member. I do not want to do that. Just search ntr in the server and you will be greeted with 992 results of ntr rants.

I'm shocked, sir... truly shocked...

 

[Hyperserver]

If that were true then Hearsz wouldn't have panic rewritten the scene... and don't act like there was no drama on discord either... I was there and saw it and talked with Hearsz too...

The scene was not "re-written", it was "re-worded" to make it more clear. Sis and Vicky still have sex, and the twins are still escorts - so that's not a re-writing.
The "drama" wasn't really a big one - but still we agree that the scene could be understood in a way we didn't intend. That's why we "re-worded" it. The basic meaning is still the same as it has been before.
So please stop searching the needle in the heap just to rant.

 

[Son of Durin]

Are people freaking out because a girl has sex with another girl or something. I'm lost.

Basically, yes.

What makes their griping more insane is that the two women had had a previous fling with each other years before, but they were both now having no-strings flings with MC. You see, it's okay for your MC character to have sex with multiple women on the sly, but it isn't okay for two of those women to have one last fling of their own before one of them leaves town because that somehow is being mean to the MC and cucking him.

It's a very misogynistic perspective on the concept of the open relationship: the man (more specifically, the MC that represents the complaining players) is free to do whomever he wants, whenever he wants, without telling any of the women he's involved with any other women, but it is a mortal sin for any of the women to have even a one-nighter with another woman with which she has had a prior relationship. I think it makes their peepees shrink up.

And thank you for the reaction points from many of the usual suspects. Rent. Free.

 

[Son of Durin]

Is it just me, or this update was really short?

Haven't played it, but from the pointing and laughing, it may be you, too.

 

[Hyperserver]

Lol you wouldn't believe what I just saw on their discord, can't even post it here openly because it will be out right insulting to one of their team member. I do not want to do that. Just search ntr in the server and you will be greeted with 992 results of ntr rants.

oh - you are right. (even you didn't search right, as it's 1138 and not 992)
Since 2019, since the server is up in that configuration, there are 1138 posts containing "ntr" in it - no matter if positive or negative, but also including internal moderator talk and multiple counts inside one post. Assuming that there is also NTR mentionned as in "not ntr", we can take that amount by a third.
Thats exactly 4 years - or 1460 days. So on average not even once every 4 days NTR is mentionned at all.

You are right - what a rant

Should i do the same search over here? nah - better not i guess XD

 

[Dragon59]

Basically, yes.

What makes their griping more insane is that the two women had had a previous fling with each other years before, but they were both now having no-strings flings with MC. You see, it's okay for your MC character to have sex with multiple women on the sly, but it isn't okay for two of those women to have one last fling of their own before one of them leaves town because that somehow is being mean to the MC and cucking him.

It's a very misogynistic perspective on the concept of the open relationship: the man (more specifically, the MC that represents the complaining players) is free to do whomever he wants, whenever he wants, without telling any of the women he's involved with any other women, but it is a mortal sin for any of the women to have even a one-nighter with another woman with which she has had a prior relationship. I think it makes their peepees shrink up.

This really feels to me like an unhealthy level of immersion and self-insertion.
It was this misogynistic one-sided bias that actually inspired me to start working on stories of my own. So many "Alphas" who lose their shit if the LI's exhibit the smallest level of autonomy and agency.

oh - you are right. (even you didn't search right, as it's 1138 and not 992)
Since 2019, since the server is up in that configuration, there are 1138 posts containing "ntr" in it - no matter if positive or negative. Assuming that there is also NTR mentionned as in "not ntr", we can take that amount by half.
Thats exactly 4 years - or 1460 days. So on average not even once every 2 days NTR is mentionned at all.

You are right - what a rant

Should i do the same search over here? nah - better not i guess XD

Need I remind you that some consider facts to have a left-leaning bias? They don't want to let facts get in the way of a "good" conspiracy narrative.

 

[Uthuriel]

The scene was not "re-written", it was "re-worded" to make it more clear. Sis and Vicky still have sex, and the twins are still escorts - so that's not a re-writing.
The "drama" wasn't really a big one - but still we agree that the scene could be understood in a way we didn't intend. That's why we "re-worded" it. The basic meaning is still the same as it has been before.
So please stop searching the needle in the heap just to rant.

Not re-written eh... don't bore me with semantics...

 

[cxx]

Soo....
What's next on the agenda?
Surfer gal is cute!

shortcake has always some scenes.