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If that were true then Hearsz wouldn't have panic rewritten the scene... and don't act like there was no drama on discord either... I was there and saw it and talked with Hearsz too...
The scene was not "re-written", it was "re-worded" to make it more clear. Sis and Vicky still have sex, and the twins are still escorts - so that's not a re-writing.
The "drama" wasn't really a big one - but still we agree that the scene could be understood in a way we didn't intend. That's why we "re-worded" it. The basic meaning is still the same as it has been before.
So please stop searching the needle in the heap just to rant.
 

Son of Durin

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Are people freaking out because a girl has sex with another girl or something. I'm lost.
Basically, yes.

What makes their griping more insane is that the two women had had a previous fling with each other years before, but they were both now having no-strings flings with MC. You see, it's okay for your MC character to have sex with multiple women on the sly, but it isn't okay for two of those women to have one last fling of their own before one of them leaves town because that somehow is being mean to the MC and cucking him.

It's a very misogynistic perspective on the concept of the open relationship: the man (more specifically, the MC that represents the complaining players) is free to do whomever he wants, whenever he wants, without telling any of the women he's involved with any other women, but it is a mortal sin for any of the women to have even a one-nighter with another woman with which she has had a prior relationship. I think it makes their peepees shrink up.

And thank you for the reaction points from many of the usual suspects. Rent. Free.
 
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Hyperserver

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Lol you wouldn't believe what I just saw on their discord, can't even post it here openly because it will be out right insulting to one of their team member. I do not want to do that. Just search ntr in the server and you will be greeted with 992 results of ntr rants.
oh - you are right. (even you didn't search right, as it's 1138 and not 992)
Since 2019, since the server is up in that configuration, there are 1138 posts containing "ntr" in it - no matter if positive or negative, but also including internal moderator talk and multiple counts inside one post. Assuming that there is also NTR mentionned as in "not ntr", we can take that amount by a third.
Thats exactly 4 years - or 1460 days. So on average not even once every 4 days NTR is mentionned at all.

You are right - what a rant :FacePalm:

Should i do the same search over here? nah - better not i guess XD
 
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Dragon59

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Basically, yes.

What makes their griping more insane is that the two women had had a previous fling with each other years before, but they were both now having no-strings flings with MC. You see, it's okay for your MC character to have sex with multiple women on the sly, but it isn't okay for two of those women to have one last fling of their own before one of them leaves town because that somehow is being mean to the MC and cucking him.

It's a very misogynistic perspective on the concept of the open relationship: the man (more specifically, the MC that represents the complaining players) is free to do whomever he wants, whenever he wants, without telling any of the women he's involved with any other women, but it is a mortal sin for any of the women to have even a one-nighter with another woman with which she has had a prior relationship. I think it makes their peepees shrink up.
This really feels to me like an unhealthy level of immersion and self-insertion.
It was this misogynistic one-sided bias that actually inspired me to start working on stories of my own. So many "Alphas" who lose their shit if the LI's exhibit the smallest level of autonomy and agency.

oh - you are right. (even you didn't search right, as it's 1138 and not 992)
Since 2019, since the server is up in that configuration, there are 1138 posts containing "ntr" in it - no matter if positive or negative. Assuming that there is also NTR mentionned as in "not ntr", we can take that amount by half.
Thats exactly 4 years - or 1460 days. So on average not even once every 2 days NTR is mentionned at all.

You are right - what a rant :FacePalm:

Should i do the same search over here? nah - better not i guess XD
Need I remind you that some consider facts to have a left-leaning bias? ;) They don't want to let facts get in the way of a "good" conspiracy narrative.
 
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Uthuriel

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The scene was not "re-written", it was "re-worded" to make it more clear. Sis and Vicky still have sex, and the twins are still escorts - so that's not a re-writing.
The "drama" wasn't really a big one - but still we agree that the scene could be understood in a way we didn't intend. That's why we "re-worded" it. The basic meaning is still the same as it has been before.
So please stop searching the needle in the heap just to rant.
Not re-written eh... don't bore me with semantics...

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NoxLaw

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I love how these arguments are getting dumb and dumber :KEK: The girl cheats on you but it doesn't count cause it's with a person she had relationship in the past.

Everyone on the dev team hates ntr yet they keep adding it into their games.

It's not ntr because it's with a girl. And it seems like we're trying to virtue signal now so I'm just gonna say that if you don't mind it just because it's with a girl, but would be upset if it was with a man. That's pretty sexist guys, be better :KEK:

And now our fellow resident discord mod is spewing out these ridiculous backtracking statements that can be disproven in 10 seconds.

I love this thread :LUL:
 

Joshy92

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It does make me wonder if it's all just casual sex why not have some big black dude bang one of the girls in the next update.
That wouldn't be ntr would it guys lol

Heck why not say he was the girls lover in the past
Let's see if those same people who like the Vicki & Sis scene say the same thing then
 

Son of Durin

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still the same outcome - if they don't like HOW we do things - just they should leave.
The mayority likes what and HOW we do things, and we certainly will not change anything because of them.

There are 3 games now and everyone knows how we do. Why are they still here complaining how we do things? We will not change at all because of them - be assured
You should do you more intensely and see if you can actually get some of their heads to literally explode. :)
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cxx

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It does make me wonder if it's all just casual sex why not have some big black dude bang one of the girls in the next update.
That wouldn't be ntr would it guys lol

Heck why not say he was the girls lover in the past
Let's see if those same people who like the Vicki & Sis scene say the same thing then
lucas is candidate to harass sisters.
 
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Hyperserver

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Not re-written eh... don't bore me with semantics...

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right - and tomorrow we learn the difference between "re-written the dialogue" and "re-written the scene".
The scene, the setting, the meaning, the outcome ... all is still the same - just the wording has changed in 2-3 lines if you compare both versions.
 
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Joshy92

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lucas is candidate to harass sisters.
Yeah, but Lucas is useless also he never had a relationship with any of the girls
I meant bring in some guy Sis or Vicky or whoever used to date and have him sleep with her without the mc knowing
I think people would be very upset
 

cxx

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Maybe Martin comes back to bang his daughter... :KEK:
that wouldn't be ntr since she said to mc that what he and she do is AGAIN casual sex.

Yeah, but Lucas is useless also he never had a relationship with any of the girls
I meant bring in some guy Sis or Vicky or whoever used to date and have him sleep with her without the mc knowing
I think people would be very upset
well we know only older sis's ex-bf and she won't do anything with him.
 
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Hyperserver

often the biggest step forward is to "step back"
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Yeah, but Lucas is useless also he never had a relationship with any of the girls
I meant bring in some guy Sis or Vicky or whoever used to date and have him sleep with her without the mc knowing
I think people would be very upset
maybe we should do that scene(s) and release it exclussively for free for the people over here - would be even worth the fun, i guess
 

Staben

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Help, how do I import the saves from Chapter 1? I did save at the end of CH1 and started on CH2, but where does it import it?
 
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