VN Ren'Py Completed Sunshine Love [Ch. 3 v1.01i Extras] [MrDots Games]

[DA22]

You have asked that before and it was too stupid I ignored it. But since you asked it again: 1. Any sharing will be D and F, Martin and D or F and Martin with D in the middle. Just because you have a threesome doesn't mean all parties will engage with each other. Look at games like WVM where the MC has two girlfriends. They both have sex with him in threesomes, but they don't have sex with each other. 2. F, Martin and Ryan have not been shown to have homosexual or bisexual tendencies, so expecting them to be active with each other isn't gonna happen.

HOWEVER, what would be wrong if the guys did decide to do a bit of experimenting?

Nothing, if you want to be fair and goose and the gander are equal. It is just to show how hypocrite it is to say. F can have other women, but bisexual D can not have other dicks, that is so unfair, while she swims in pussy and F already shares with her. Besides it never anywhere in the story says that they are not bisexual so would be just as easy to fit in as d suddenly turning dick grazy while just fell in love with F and had her first time. It is just following that argument about D to its full and logical conclusion if people really wanted equality between them. Which we all know is not what they want, they just want a slutty D getting dicked.

Also i am quite sure that a lot of people who will be happy to see D getting other dick and bash others for not wanting that, will complain and whine as soon as the game would get optional male gay paths with Martin and F or other males (making the game a lot less vanilla as just D with other males scenes that are in 100's of games and making male gay players very happy as well) and dev time being put into that so they have to wait longer for their preferred next Martin-D scene.

 

[Trikus]

From a purely social standpoint, nothing at all. From a porn game played primarily by heterosexual men, quite a bit.

Then why would they have the option enabled? DMD has a handy little option that turns off any sharing path with a click of a button. All sharing content is 100% optional. If you left the options open, then you chose it. When starting a new game in Chapter 3 you get the option to turn of the path before even getting into the story. There is no excuse.

 

[tanstaafl]

Then why would they have the option enabled?

They have the option enabled because they think sharing is hot.

I swear, you are quite possibly the most limited person on these boards. You are literally all or nothing. I have sharing on because it's hot and it's kinda cool in the game. That does NOT mean I want to see homosexual or m/m bisexual content.

 

[kameohawk]

However, neither character wants the relationship to fail.

I'm not so sure. The manner in which they interacted before the MC left was... odd. Certainly not how I would have expected it to play out if both parties were firmly committed. The girlfriend seemed quite keen for the MC to leave. Perhaps it was just written poorly but certainly the beginning felt like it was going down a path of "we should go on a break/ oh I like this / I don't think it's working out MC, I've met someone else / bye". However it seems after he left she started to get regrets, like the Dev got cold feet and wanted to go in another direction. Which is fine, but it comes off as a bit wishy washy at the moment. Couple that with the fact there's almost zero content for the girlfriend, it means that thread feels a bit unnecessary.

Maybe in future updates it'll change but personally I'm not looking forward to version 0.04 or 0.05 or whatever and find out it's solely a "girlfriend back home" update when all the previous versions have been around establishing relationships with the new characters the MC has met.

There's other things which make me wonder where the developer will take Nicola. In the summary for the game it states

You are an aspiring junior associate at a prestigious law firm, with hopes of one day becoming a trial lawyer, just like your current girlfriend of five years, Nicole.

As a rule of thumb, referring to your girlfriend as your current girlfriend is a red flag heh and not one I would recommend using around her.

 

[tanstaafl]

I'm not so sure. The manner in which they interacted before the MC left was... odd. Certainly not how I would have expected it to play out if both parties were firmly committed.

Disagree. I mean, we can see both of their internal monologues and it's obvious from that they want the relationship to work. Sure, Nicole has more doubts, but she is willing to do drastic things that in her mind will strengthen the relationship, even if it's a small chance.

 

[Trikus]

Nothing, if you want to be fair and goose and the gander are equal. It is just to show how hypocrite it is to say. F can have other women, but bisexual D can not have other dicks, that is so unfair, while she swims in pussy and F already shares with her. Besides it never anywhere in the story says that they are not bisexual so would be just as easy to fit in as d suddenly turning dick grazy while just fell in love with F and had her first time. It is just following that argument about D to its full and logical conclusion if people really wanted equality between them.

Also i am quite sure that a lot of people who will be happy to see D getting other dick and bash others for not wanting that, will complain and whine as soon as the game would get optional male gay paths with Martin and F or other males.

This is my last post on this as it is the Sunshine Love board, not DMD. You have played the game right? What is up with people treating it like one long orgy. D hasn't gone dick crazy like people seem to think she has. She found one guy attractive and wonders what it will be like to be with him. There is also the very large possibility she will never find out because the character she is attracted to is taking another job and will be moving away from the are fairly soon after her modelling competition.

They have the option enabled because they think sharing is hot.

I swear, you are quite possibly the most limited person on these boards. You are literally all or nothing. I have sharing on because it's hot and it's kinda cool in the game. That does NOT mean I want to see homosexual or m/m bisexual content.

Uhh, you can have other sharing options open and close off the mmf sharing option. In my game I prefer the route with F, D and Georgina developing a polyamory relationship. My Elena sharing path is still open, as is Margo and Olivia. Such a shame about Jennifer. How am I limited? You want sharing but don't want to see M/M content? DMD has you covered. You will never see it unless you choose to. Everyone wins.

 

[tanstaafl]

Uhh, you can have other sharing options open and close off the mmf sharing option. In my game I prefer the route with F, D and Georgina developing a polyamory relationship. My Elena sharing path is still open, as is Margo and Olivia. Such a shame about Jennifer. How am I limited? You want sharing but don't want to see M/M content? DMD has you covered. You will never see it unless you choose to. Everyone wins.

The limited thing wasn't really limited to this particular discussion. It's things like you being all-in on Nicole and attacking anyone that says anything negative about her, even if they have well thought out arguments and aren't just bashing her. Or the other day when people were frustrated with the course of the game and you were all in on supporting the "new plan" despite the entirety of the new plan at that point being a troll by Jeff. You seemingly expect everyone to fit in your narrow views of how this game should be perceived. It's frustrating.

 

[SeveredRealms]

Not to be a dick or anything guys and I know this game is another of Mrdots games but this is the SL forum not the DMD forum.

 

[tanstaafl]

Not to be a dick or anything guys and I know this game is another of Mrdots games but this is the SL forum not the DMD forum.

The discussion applies to both games, thus examples from both games are being used. Not usually kosher to talk about other games, but when it's the same issue from two games from the same developer I think it should be given a pass.

The topic is sharing.

 

[DA22]

This is my last post on this as it is the Sunshine Love board, not DMD. You have played the game right? What is up with people treating it like one long orgy. D hasn't gone dick crazy like people seem to think she has. She found one guy attractive and wonders what it will be like to be with him. There is also the very large possibility she will never find out because the character she is attracted to is taking another job and will be moving away from the are fairly soon after her modelling competition.


Uhh, you can have other sharing options open and close off the mmf sharing option. In my game I prefer the route with F, D and Georgina developing a polyamory relationship. My Elena sharing path is still open, as is Margo and Olivia. Such a shame about Jennifer. How am I limited? You want sharing but don't want to see M/M content? DMD has you covered. You will never see it unless you choose to. Everyone wins.

Well if my point is not clear enough after what I added it will never be for you. In plain English, people are using a false and incomplete argument also used by Jeff to force people to accept certain content in a game that they very much want, while others for whatever good reasons pertaining to them do not wish that content in and bashing them as unfair hypocrites and women haters if they do not agree. That is what is wrong with it. It is up to the devs in the end to add it or not if they want to and deal with the fallout it will give, just do not use false arguments.

The Cucqean content that was already shot down by team was same kind of argument, trying to force people to accept certain content they are uncomfortable with and complained about and if do not it is all your fault.

 

[NateGrey]

Not to be a dick or anything guys and I know this game is another of Mrdots games but this is the SL forum not the DMD forum.

Being a DIK is another game altogether.

 

[Trikus]

I'm not so sure. The manner in which they interacted before the MC left was... odd. Certainly not how I would have expected it to play out if both parties were firmly committed. The girlfriend seemed quite keen for the MC to leave. Perhaps it was just written poorly but certainly the beginning felt like it was going down a path of "we should go on a break/ oh I like this / I don't think it's working out MC, I've met someone else / bye". However it seems after he left she started to get regrets, like the Dev got cold feet and wanted to go in another direction. Which is fine, but it comes off as a bit wishy washy at the moment. Couple that with the fact there's almost zero content for the girlfriend, it means that thread feels a bit unnecessary.

She was actually fairly resistant to the idea of him leaving actually. It was only after he told her there were no local jobs and showed her how much he thought he was going to be paid that she warmed up to the idea of him leaving but still have doubts. When she considered it she realized that time apart could help. You know, absence makes the heart grow fonder and all of that. Also, she realized it would be good for the MC to reconnect with his sister.

The limited thing wasn't really limited to this particular discussion. It's things like you being all-in on Nicole and attacking anyone that says anything negative about her, even if they have well thought out arguments and aren't just bashing her. Or the other day when people were frustrated with the course of the game and you were all in on supporting the "new plan" despite the entirety of the new plan at that point being a troll by Jeff. You seemingly expect everyone to fit in your narrow views of how this game should be perceived. It's frustrating.

Its the unfair bashing I don't like. I agree the character certainly has faults, and there is nothing wrong about that. What isn't fair is people making up faults that the character doesn't have and lies then using that as an excuse to complain about her. She is far from my favourite character in this game, but I am not going to base my opinion on her with made up stuff.

As for the game in general, I am wanting the game as intended from the developers, not a game getting dictated by outside influences. What is wrong with that? I like MrDots games because he puts a lot of work into the characters and the story. Having them make decisions out of character is just weird. The idea of the MC breaking up with Nicole right then and there during the video call makes no sense from what we know about the MC. I do agree there should have been a third option, but it should have been something like him saying he would think about it and then in v4 he had the option of saying he wants to break up. That just makes sense for these characters and the narrative. I'm not opposed to the idea of the MC breaking up with Nicole, just make it believable from a character perspective. I realize most people play porn games for the sex with little logic behind it, and yes, Nicole was getting in the way of the MC whoring himself out, but there are plenty other games where you can do that.

Also, the idea that Jeff suggested was good and fit the characters, but they aren't going that route, and that's fine as long as the decision is made by the team making the game, and not outside influences.

 

[Yamura]

If Melody is any indicator we're still very, very early into this game so there's potential for fleshing out of ALL the characters at some point.

Even though this an an incest tag, I wonder with the attraction between Our Hero and sis if it will develop later the actually aren't blood relatives.

 

[kameohawk]

If Melody is any indicator we're still very, very early into this game so there's potential for fleshing out of ALL the characters at some point.

Even though this an an incest tag, I wonder with the attraction between Our Hero and sis if it will develop later the actually aren't blood relatives.

I'll admit I thought that when it was never really defined why the MCs Dad and step mum were fighting. But the step mum certainly gave no indication she was bullshitting the father. And he obviously has previous when it comes to cheating on a spouse.

 

[thessaya]

The discussion in this thread really has opened my eyes to a long-standing issue. I'm replaying the Mass Effect trilogy right now, but will put that playthrough on hold until somebody releases a mod that let's the dead enemies quick-load.
It's only fair for them to have the same options I do.

 

[Garatempus2]

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[tanstaafl]

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Pretty common theory at this point. All we need now is for the MC to come across that username he was told about for confirmation.

 

[DA22]

Pretty common theory at this point. All we need now is for the MC to come across that username he was told about for confirmation.

True, though it could be fun to keep her non family for the incest dislikers and add another way more surprising half sister that is even hotter, nor completely sure she fits qua age or Gerald must have been cheating already on Ashley for a few years before she left.

 

[humanstickobserver]

Honest question.
I'm still early in the game. Just met Ashley and Trisha while coming back from the beach.

I know in a previous post, I bitched about the MC being the typical spineless protag, but this really pissed me off.

Why was I forced to be nice to Ashley?
Sure, you can get -1 with her by saying you aren't interested in seeing her work, but beyond that, why did I not just tell her to go fuck herself and keep walking?

"Ashley, you left. I don't know why, but you did, and after losing my mother, having you two leave hurt me. Now, whatever happened that broke you and dad up, that isn't my business. So, I can't be mad at you for leaving. And, of course, when you left, you took my sister. She's your daughter, so I can't blame you for that, either.
But you left, and when you did, you prevented me from being able to contact you, and you prevented my sister from contacting me. You made it clear to her she was to have no contact with either of us. Dad might have hurt you, but what the fuck did I do? You want to be sweet smiles and say how nice it is to see me? I don't feel the same. You took my sister away, and prevented us from finding each other again. I don't forgive that, and I have nothing to say to you."

Is that so hard?
Even if you don't WANT the player to choose that route, keep it as an option!
You can make routes where you are friendly to Ashley be more rewarding, long term. But the option to tell her off should be there.

Why does the MC look forward to seeing her again, and even be sweet to her? It seems the only person in the game that the MC has a backbone against is his father... and while I'm sure the game will make him out to be some asshole, and Ashley as the sympathetic one, we play a prologue as the dude. He may be stern, but we're given reason to think the guy is decent from the get-go.

 

[Stylebender]

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If Melody is any indicator we're still very, very early into this game so there's potential for fleshing out of ALL the characters at some point.

Even though this an an incest tag, I wonder with the attraction between Our Hero and sis if it will develop later the actually aren't blood relatives.

Sis will probably the last “relationship” to develop