Irgendwie Irgendwo

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Whew, they really make you work for all the donuts and peeping toms. I saw that I had no saves for a Yuki path and the Trisha decision in C2, so I had to go back to a save (one did not work anymore) and play through all that again. Problem is that once you are in a scene with changed text you cannot skip until the whole scene changes. With some of them being out of order it requires a lot of backtracking.
 

Hammerhiem

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Exactly. I think this is what will make or break this game. Dots style is...uggh...mmm...it's a style lol. DmD was utter juvenile trash imo, Melody improved and the setup for this one really had me interested and hoping it would be the best of his yet.

However, the mess with Nicole, it would seem obvious to me (at least) that Nicole was always going to be a central character. She was always at some point going to come to the bay and be in our lives. I do believe (regardless of what certain people in the know have said) that the possible CQ route 'was' the intended plan....otherwise, a gf that offers an open relationship but would refuse to participate and stay loyal to you....just makes zero fecking sense in any context except a CQ route. Just like with the ntr is not currently 'planned'...which means it is being thought about. if we break up with her..who cares what she does and why on earth would we see it in game?

So then everything kicked off....it will now be changed to break up instead (rightly so imo as much as I'd like a loving loyal CQ route)...which then begs the question...if we break up with her, she has no reason to come to the bay anymore (except maybe to try and win us back). I think in a way, the outburst from this decision has fundamentally changed the design and plot of the game as it would appear the majority of people are not actually interested in an open relationship with her and neither are they fans of the character, Dots (it would appear) wanted to be the main LI.
If she was supposed to be the main LI it was set up INCREDIBLY badly.

She doesn't seem to see him as anything other than a ticket to ride to a lifestyle she needs him to contribute too, she doesn't enjoy sex with him and both times they have at it she complains about how bad it is, and then he moves hundreds of miles away and she wants to fuck other men.

That's the least LI arc that you could write, let alone main LI.
 

Irgendwie Irgendwo

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She doesn't seem to see him as anything other than a ticket to ride to a lifestyle she needs him to contribute too, she doesn't enjoy sex with him and both times they have at it she complains about how bad it is, and then he moves hundreds of miles away and she wants to fuck other men.
*sigh* It was confirmed repeatedly by the devs that Nicole won't have sex with other men. As swamped as she is with work she won't even have time for that.

As for the other thing, I stated before that I completely get her. Basically she did it for him to cheer him up with her mind not in it, possibly worrying about being homeless since she can't finance the mortgage alone. I'd like to see anybody enjoying sex, not to speak of actually orgasming, with those issues.
 

Hammerhiem

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*sigh* It was confirmed repeatedly by the devs that Nicole won't have sex with other men. As swamped as she is with work she won't even have time for that.

As for the other thing, I stated before that I completely get her. Basically she did it for him to cheer him up with her mind not in it, possibly worrying about being homeless since she can't finance the mortgage alone. I'd like to see anybody enjoying sex, not to speak of actually orgasming, with those issues.
Wonderful... However, THAT'S NOT HOW THEY WROTE IT. They wrote she wanted an open relationship. SHE wanted it not teh MC, no one asks for an open relationship if they aren't looking to play the field.

I was talking about what they wrote, not what they said after people reacted (Badly) to what they wrote.
 

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If she was supposed to be the main LI it was set up INCREDIBLY badly.

She doesn't seem to see him as anything other than a ticket to ride to a lifestyle she needs him to contribute too, she doesn't enjoy sex with him and both times they have at it she complains about how bad it is, and then he moves hundreds of miles away and she wants to fuck other men.

That's the least LI arc that you could write, let alone main LI.
Oh I completely agree.

*sigh* It was confirmed repeatedly by the devs that Nicole won't have sex with other men. As swamped as she is with work she won't even have time for that.

As for the other thing, I stated before that I completely get her. Basically she did it for him to cheer him up with her mind not in it, possibly worrying about being homeless since she can't finance the mortgage alone. I'd like to see anybody enjoying sex, not to speak of actually orgasming, with those issues.
And as many have also stated before, it's illogical, ridiculous, out of character and just plain idiocy. Bad writing too. Funny she has time for her sister though....
 

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For me , its a no go. i have been playing this game since the last two updates, and what bothers me when you finally get vicky in to bed, you dont see any of it, is this a porn game, i usually expect more from a game that has mr dots name on it.............
 
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Irgendwie Irgendwo

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For me , its a no go. i have been playing this game since the last two updates, and what bothers me when you finally get vicky in to bed, you dont see any of it, is this a porn game, i usually expect more from a game that has mr dots name on it.............
Strange, I saw two out of the (planned) four positions. Could it be that you tabbed out to write your comment before playing to the end?
 
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Lederzar

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For me , its a no go. i have been playing this game since the last two updates, and what bothers me when you finally get vicky in to bed, you dont see any of it, is this a porn game, i usually expect more from a game that has mr dots name on it.............
He sucks her tits, her pussy, he fucks her in missionary, in dog sytle, in reverse cow and ends up in Vicky's mouth, what are you talking about?
 

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First we had the conversation with Nicole and her sister, and then with her client about the open relationship.
The only thing definite we got from those, was Nicole was not going to cheat (there was nothing to say that she would not be interested in sex with someone else, especially after her comment about the threesome and the third person being a guy).
Then with the way that she raised the open relationship with the MC, I'm not sure how we were expected to think Nicole would not have had sex with anyone else.

Afterwards we were told (among the cryptic comments, troll posts and untruths) that Nicole was not going to have sex with anyone, but that was done as badly as the story itself, and by then, many people had already made their mind up.
 
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the other option was ridiculous
You would be surprised how often escapologettics in real life leave their spouses hanging in that unconfortable spot:
Just bang till you drop, there will always be your spouse to cuddle to before you each go bang others some more :)


He sucks her tits, her pussy, he fucks her in missionary, in dog sytle, in reverse cow and ends up in Vicky's mouth, what are you talking about?
The definition of love must differ from one game to another.
 
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Naxos

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For me , its a no go. i have been playing this game since the last two updates, and what bothers me when you finally get vicky in to bed, you dont see any of it, is this a porn game, i usually expect more from a game that has mr dots name on it.............
Strange, I saw two out of the (planned) four positions. Could it be that you tabbed out to write your comment before playing to the end?
He sucks her tits, her pussy, he fucks her in missionary, in dog sytle, in reverse cow and ends up in Vicky's mouth, what are you talking about?
He probably fell into the trap of seeing it cut to the morning after, alt-tabbed to rant / post about it instead of playing on a bit to see the scene.
 

RoadWulf

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It is called catch and release (with a wire ) so the waiting game begins ...


Please get caught up on your up to date bond reading ... or Danny Craing watch next time :)
I actually figured it out.
Plus the fact if you pay attention to the details you can figure out how much after DMD's future ending this game takes place.
The Daughter is a famous model enough that Kristina knows who she is and patterned her self after her, Georgina is officially with the Father, as to F and D's relationship it's left ambiguous.

But it's been a few years, and SSL's antagonist hotel owner douche seems to have lots of powerful lawyers that got him out quicker than he should have on an attempted rape charge.
 

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Then with the way that she raised the open relationship with the MC, I'm not sure how we were expected to think Nicole would not have had sex with anyone else.
Even her reaction when she's telling the MC to go work with his sister almost suggests that. She's all but saying it would be better if they had some time apart
 
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Raziel_8

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First we had the conversation with Nicole and her sister, and then with her client about the open relationship.
The only thing definite we got from those, was Nicole was not going to cheat (there was nothing to say that she would not be interested in sex with someone else, especially after her comment about the threesome and the third person being a guy).
Then with the way that she raised the open relationship with the MC, I'm not sure how we were expected to think Nicole would not have had sex with anyone else.

Afterwards we were told (among the cryptic comments, troll posts and untruths) that Nicole was not going to have sex with anyone, but that was done as badly as the story itself, and by then, many people had already made their mind up.
As u said, in the scene with Gorgina she was clearly interested in meeting with other men, also as said before, why would she propose a open relationship if she didn't want to take advantage of that, especially as she and MC are effective on a break, being in different countys...it makes no sense.
Add to that the direction which DMD goes with open relationship/sharing, there was literally no reason to assume she would stay faithful....i don't really belive that it was never planed/in consideration that she wouldn't have sex with others, more likely a choice if we want to see it, maybe a choice to make it optional...

About the client and how a OR maybe could have saved the relaionship.
As far as i can tell, the MC isn't even aware of the fact that their relationship has serious problems, stress, some minor fights and him being a bit jealous of her being a lawyer in court sure, but not large problems which threaten their relationship.
So if Nicole suggest the OR to save their relationship, she probably should have talked with the MC about the problems first...instead of making a sleghammer solution, for which the MC doesn't even know the problem...

In the talk with the Sister MC said, he only agreed because it seems important to Nicole, it is clearly not something he is comfortable with, nothing he wanted and clearly not a solution for their problems in his eyes, instead it is likely the largest problem for him (at least problems he is aware of), seeing his reaction...
 
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magus448

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If she wasn't going to take advantage of the open relationship, she could have just proposed a hall pass instead.
 
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In vn Motherless the relationship mc and his girlfriend is well shown at a distance, she knows that he can have fun with other girls and she jokes. I don't understand what the problem is to do the same:FacePalm:
 
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