VN Ren'Py Completed Sunshine Love [Ch. 3 v1.01i Extras] [MrDots Games]

[quorkboy]

It's almost like a real life decision where you don't necessarily get the universe saying "what options would you prefer" and offering them to you.

The way I see it: if your intent was to play the faithful route and only be with Nicole, then perhaps you'd have reason to be upset that you don't get this choice. If your intent was to do anything with any other female character, then you have no leg to stand on. The only choice on this route that would be fair to her and in line with "salvage the relationship" is "we both get to do what we want with who we want." The only reasonable alternative would be "break up."

I admit for those planning to be faithful it would have been nice for them to have that choice.

As it is, though, you get the option of fucking around with other women while Nicole remains faithful and you can continue your relationship with her also. It's difficult to see how this should be upsetting anyone. You can still choose that option and not fuck around and you get the same as if there was no open relationship. I understand that the MC doesn't know this but you do. If you really need to reconcile this with the MC's knowledge, just pretend he knows her so well that he is certain she won't actually do anything with anyone else.

And if it's still something you can't handle, go play another game.

 

[Hammerhiem]

It's almost like a real life decision where you don't necessarily get the universe saying "what options would you prefer" and offering them to you.

You always have the option to say no.

Always.

 

[quorkboy]

You always have the option to say no.

Always.

You're right. But no to what?

In life the options really might come down to "we can stay together if you accept an open relationship, or we break up." I.e., "no" to "break up" equals open relationship. "No" to open relationship equals break up. You can't count on being offered the option of no to both.

 

[freedom.call]

I admit for those planning to be faithful it would have been nice for them to have that choice.

Those still have that choice in a roundabout way. Say yes to open relationship and stay faithful to Nicole.

 

[L0MBR0]

It's almost like a real life decision where you don't necessarily get the universe saying "what options would you prefer" and offering them to you.

They gave us the option, and some of us played it. Nicole apologised for making the stupid proposal and had a whole change of heart. So it's not like some of us wanted something we couldn't have.

The way I see it: if your intent was to play the faithful route and only be with Nicole, then perhaps you'd have reason to be upset that you don't get this choice. If your intent was to do anything with any other female character, then you have no leg to stand on.

Correct. Since they gave us the option before, some of us (probably a major minority), actually chose to play the faithful route. Doesn't mean I have no interest in the other girls, but for that I would choose to break up with Nicole and have a separate playthrough with them.

The only choice on this route that would be fair to her and in line with "salvage the relationship" is "we both get to do what we want with who we want.

Not sure I follow you here. How do you align "salvage the relationship" with "we both get to do what we want with who we want"? As far as I'm concerned, there is nothing to salvage once you start sleeping around with other people. In the case of Nicole and the MC, they were in a long term monogamous relationship. You can't salvage that when one party (in this case Nicole) all of a sudden decides to have sex with other people, and your only choice is to agree with it. Again, we did have the choice before to say no and stay with Nicole, and also to break up if we wanted to be with the other girls. So really, everyone already could have had what they wanted (from playing like a monk to playing the field).

I admit for those planning to be faithful it would have been nice for them to have that choice.

They did, and you're right, we were happy. In fact, no one had a reason not to be happy before (unless you can come up with one). Exactly what benefit does this open relationship now bring that we didn't have before? Cuckqueen? So some form of cucking planned down the road? Only instead of her cucking you, you cucking her?
Interesting how Hyperserver has been very quiet about this lately (we all know he's been pushing for it).

I understand that the MC doesn't know this but you do. If you really need to reconcile this with the MC's knowledge, just pretend he knows her so well that he is certain she won't actually do anything with anyone else.

Probably the only thing to do now. But I really do hope she does have a change of heart soon and actually will want to salvage their relationship (other than her wanting to watch him fuck other girls).

And if it's still something you can't handle, go play another game.

Not gonna happen (yet). Stop sharing my thoughts and opinion? Not gonna happen either, but thanks for the suggestion.

 

[quorkboy]

They gave us the option, and some of us played it. Nicole apologised for making the stupid proposal and had a whole change of heart. So it's not like some of us wanted something we couldn't have.

They took the "don't agree" option away. It's gone. We have to play the game as it is. I may not agree with their decision but it's been made clear they don't intend to change it back. You can of course keep trying. But they seem pretty determined and I personally am not going to try as I am quite happy with the open relationship option. Many others seem to want to break up with her. A minority want to continue a one-sided open relationship (which is still an available option since we know Nicole won't do anything on her side) or be faithful (no longer available.)

Within the context of the game as it stands, open relationship aligns with "salvage the relationship" because it's the option that allows you to continue having a romantic relationship. I'd expect the difference between cheating and an open relationship is obvious.

In the case of Nicole and the MC, they were in a long term monogamous relationship. You can't salvage that when one party (in this case Nicole) all of a sudden decides to have sex with other people, and your only choice is to agree with it. Again, we did have the choice before to say no and stay with Nicole, and also to break up if we wanted to be with the other girls. So really, everyone already could have had what they wanted (from playing like a monk to playing the field).

If you take "agree" as "forced to agree" then I see your point. That's not how I see "agree." It's a choice. You don't have to. But if you want to continue having a relationship with her then that's how you do it. If you see that choice resulting in a relationship you no longer want then you have to break up with her.

The could have added the option to break up with her, not replaced the "don't agree" option with "break up." But I understand their reasons as stated on the discord post I read (too many branching paths.)

They did, and you're right, we were happy. In fact, no one had a reason not to be happy before (unless you can come up with one).

Other people came up with one for me. It's why the choices were changed. They wanted to be able to break up with Nicole but were not given that option.

Exactly what benefit does this open relationship now bring that we didn't have before?

Well it's not new, so no added benefits. The previously (and still) existing benefit is that if you're someone who wants to sleep with other women and keep your relationship with Nicole, you can choose open relationship.

You can't have cucking, on either side, in an open relationship. No one is being unfaithful in this scenario.

Stop sharing my thoughts and opinion? Not gonna happen either, but thanks for the suggestion.

I made no such suggestion.

 

[badass]

Dev team said that they will be compatible, but if you aren't playing it characters will start to behave strangely as they'll get wrong triggers. So it is recommended to play C3 again. You can do that with C4 installed though and seamlessly continue.

sorry, what does it means by behave strangely? just an unmatch conversation or something significant? also, if we have to re-play with 0.0.3.1 doest we start just from beginning of ch 3 or it has to from the start?

 

[Horny]

as of v0.0.3.1 the game downloadable here on F95 is not incest. Hopefully with v0.0.4 the option will be added back in.

 

[Aohsyyen]

I've been replaying this game and got to the point where Nichole's sister comes in (Georgina). I know I played the game she was in but drawing a blank. Anyone know what it is ? Thanks

She is from Dating my daughter.
Gerald also makes an appearance in DMD. Jasmine is sister Martin, one of the character in DMD.

 

[Dragon59]

Bruh this is a fantasy porn game not a women's studies class. No one cares what you call it or what kind of word games you play with it. Watching the women get woo'ed, dicked down and squirt all over the place by other men is not exactly what most people are looking for in a fantasy porn game. Especially not this one. Do you realize how many people permanently nope'ed the fuck out at the first mention of the sister's BOYFRIEND in this game? Brow beating people with equality morality about this reveals that the goal is not entertainment but to preach an ideology. And pulling that "a-ackshually its not NTR because reasons" is a sad cope. No one cares if it fits your quoted definition or not,

In other words, "I'm so attached to my current view of reality that facts and data cannot expand my understanding." This is why we have flat-earthers.

its still off putting as fuck.

So are incel/mra freakouts. Perhaps you'd be happier taking Hyperserver's advice below:

then the fuck stop playing this game if you don't like it or if you don't like how it envolves. No one is forcing you to stay. I just said what will happen and what will not.

Logic? Good luck with that.

How many times do they have to say it isn't going to happen? And with Sister's boyfriend, he fucked up right away in the very first part. You are getting angry over absolutely nothing? You are acting like a spoiled child for no reason whatsoever.

Also, this isn't a "fantasy porn game". It is an adult visual novel. That is what VN stands for. And what do you mean by "Especially not this one"? The content has been upfront since the very first release. You aren't the author. You don't have a say in the content. You have the say in not downloading it, that is all.

This month has taught us that the ones most easily triggered are those who have been saying "fuck your feelings," and calling others snowflakes for years. Some people are used to working for progress step by step. Others expect their point of view to be centered and catered to at all times and when frustrated, many freak out.

EDIT: Not surprised that some people find this so triggering that they are moved to cover their face in shame. ;-)

 

[absalon1977]

finally today i will be able too breakup with nicole on my main playthrough i am all in on romance path with the sister and it just did not feel right too pursue a pure romance route with her while you had too stay in an open relationship with nicole, my other playthrough will be an attempt at some kind of harem and there it is different on that one i will play the open thing but will probadly wait a few updates before i experiment with it.

 

[CarbChoke]

If we have to re-play with 0.0.3.1 doest we start just from beginning of ch 3 or it has to from the start?

I set a save point right before the "Make-up or Break-up" conversation, and played 3.1 from there. Will see if that's enough - because lord knows I don't wanna be forced to replay the entire game.

 

[Deleted member 2093814]

Hopefully today I can drop kick Nicole into the fucking ocean.

 

[YRS™]

Ho

finally today i will be able too breakup with nicole on my main playthrough i am all in on romance path with the sister and it just did not feel right too pursue a pure romance route with her while you had too stay in an open relationship with nicole, my other playthrough will be an attempt at some kind of harem and there it is different on that one i will play the open thing but will probadly wait a few updates before i experiment with it.

How??

 

[ShadowThrone]

also, if we have to re-play with 0.0.3.1 doest we start just from beginning of ch 3 or it has to from the start?

With 0.0.3.1, I re-started at the beginning of Chapter 3, and during play was asked two questions about previous choices it did not know the answer to, so hopefully that will be good enough, and does not require a total restart.

 

[marco90]

as of v0.0.3.1 the game downloadable here on F95 is not incest. Hopefully with v0.0.4 the option will be added back in.

is it still available for the Patreon version?

 

[Dragon59]

as of v0.0.3.1 the game downloadable here on F95 is not incest. Hopefully with v0.0.4 the option will be added back in.

is it still available for the Patreon version?

That's why I'm a SubscribeStar Patron.

 

[marco90]

That's why I'm a SubscribeStar Patron.

ah ok thanks, then I will rectify this mistake I made.

 

[Hellkinglucifer]

Today is bye bye nicole day, don't let the door hit you on the way out... or let it i don't care

 

[YRS™]

How

Today is bye bye nicole day, don't let the door hit you on the way out... or let it i don't care