VN Ren'Py Completed Sunshine Love [Ch. 3 v1.01i Extras] [MrDots Games]

[Deleted member 4865569]

That kind of smug arrogance is the reason their Patreon and SubscribeStar numbers are dropping...
If that were my PR person I'd fire him...

No accountability whatsoever, that's what it is.

Bad writing, but it's OUR fault for “not understanding” I guess LOL.
That's not how it works, you write, and we react to wtf you wrote.

If you failed to get us to “understand” than that's not our fault, it's the
lack of ability of coherent writing, and YOUR FAULT.

How the twins were written and the vic and sister shit, was just BAD and was handled TERRIBLY and the PR guy isn't making it any better. Maybe it is time for Mr. Dots to get someone else because if he's going for damage control, it looks like he's done a pretty shit job at it.

You already got people mad, But his attitude and smugness isn't making it any better. And it's quite funny for someone who claims he doesn't care about us over here, Dude surely spends a lot of time on here doing damage control, and bad PR.

Pack him up.

 

[Hyperserver]

I understand you're basically a PR person.

1.) never said that i am "PR" person for anyone.
2.) as "officials" we are ordered best to ingore all comments over here on F95 at all by MrDots. He doesn't even want us to give him feedback from F95.
3.) As private persons (of course still with insight), we are of course over here on F95 like all the others.
4.) All intel we provided, we did on our own will so far, as long as we don't give away too much about future releases.
5.) In the end MrDots seems to be right, that it might be for the better, to just ignore the threads of our games at all.
6.) No matter what we will do or not do - the same people will complain anyways about everything - like they do since years. We just get used to it.

Seems you guys just lost the last way to maybe have a slight impact on the game at all quite right now - congrats
You now can go full rant about everything you want. We will not feature nor provide any intel anymore.
So far you got me done. I am tired to fight against windmills and stop to believe that over here may be people who are able to reason with.
Once more, we are shown, how wasted every minute will be, which we spent in even considering to reply or answer over here.
So far, i stop my support for intel, removed the patches for patreon, and also i probably will not take part in any conversations over here anymore.
Yes, believe it or not, i even consider to put this thead on ignore to give you the place to rant as much as you want like nobody cares - so have fun.

 

[Saraf]

Went through the rewrite and credit where credit is due,its better.
The Twins twist is still a really questionable decision and leads to a tonal gulf(that is in fact even deeper now)but at least it reads somewhat consistent(for the most part).
I dont buy for a second that this is how it was always planned and people merely misunderstood but thats more a fuckup of their PR machine than anything.

Twins
-now a clear timeline of being pimped out by their father,against their will through contract loophole
-completely changes dialogue from empowerment to victimhood angle
-knowingly employ brainwashed girls with the excuse of telling them about the job,seemingly dont understand what brainwashing means or placate themselves with the excuse of telling them what the job entails being enough
-would give up business to save sister but not innocent brainwashed girls
-pre coitus scene rather suddenly inserts a declaration they dont actively participate anymore when prior dialogue makes it sound like they still do,assumedly supposed to indicate that only their stable does the work now but is inserted really poorly,should be placed much earlier in the discussion to not feel so forced and maintain the desired effect(as well as make the whole thing go over easier for people who are interested in the LIs but not fond of the self-prostitution angle)
-post coitus scene is unchanged,still has them saying they dont want to give up the escort service(despite now being forced into it)in a really upbeat manner,clashes with the victimhood narrative resulting in it not really lining up,needs a touch up(also kill dumbass MC´s pimping line,that joke is completely out of place considering the changed angle)

We will see how the future goes.
Overall the whole scene still could use some more polishing and Im not quite sure how one would redeem the twins from the knowing employment of brainwashed young girls.
Victimhood sympathy points only really hold till the person in question becomes a perpetrator themselves.


Sis/Vicky
Pretty decent rewrite all things considered,putting the relationship talk in the forefront was the most workable solution.
Bisexuality and attraction still rather comes out of left field,especially for Sis and should have been hinted at starting far earlier in the narrative but overall its fine,circumvented the cheating angle well enough.

 

[Chimba]

As mentioned above, we have added an option where you can “Accept” or “Reject” Victoria’s advances when she is sitting on her sofa with Sis in her home.

Choosing to “Reject” her advances will eventually close the Vicky path, but not until later in Week 11.

tf is this shit? choice with another character?
so practically the player decides if they cheat on the mc or not and if any player is not interested in lesbian they lose the threesome and even close the path with a LI... hilarious another dev who thinks that for a threesome the LI should be bisexual and forces the player with X content to get X content.

 

[turgsh01]

So far, i stop my support for intel, removed the patches for patreon, and also i probably will not take part in any conversations over here anymore.
Yes, believe it or not, i even consider to put this thead on ignore to give you the place to rant as much as you want like nobody cares - so have fun.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. F95 can definitely do with less of your arrogance. We'll continue getting the game, patches and info without you.

You can let Mr.Dots know I stopped supporting his work because of you too.

 

[P3zz0]

1.) never said that i am "PR" person for anyone.
2.) as "officials" we are ordered best to ingore all comments over here on F95 at all by MrDots. He doesn't even want us to give him feedback from F95.
3.) As private persons (of course still with insight), we are of course over here on F95 like all the others.
4.) All intel we provided, we did on our own will so far, as long as we don't give away too much about future releases.
5.) In the end MrDots seems to be right, that it might be for the better, to just ignore the threads of our games at all.
6.) No matter what we will do or not do - the same people will complain anyways about everything - like they do since years. We just get used to it.

Seems you guys just lost the last way to maybe have a slight impact on the game at all quite right now - congrats
You now can go full rant about everything you want. We will not feature nor provide any intel anymore.
So far you got me done. I am tired to fight against windmills and stop to believe that over here may be people who are able to reason with.
Once more, we are shown, how wasted every minute will be, which we spent in even considering to reply or answer over here.
So far, i stop my support for intel, removed the patches for patreon, and also i probably will not take part in any conversations over here anymore.
Yes, believe it or not, i even consider to put this thead on ignore to give you the place to rant as much as you want like nobody cares - so have fun.

You realise you overstate your importance and we don't need your "intel" right ? That we can still get it and that if you prefer to not interact with an almost 6 millions+ userbase that is simply not an echo chamber like your discord that's your loss not ours, especially since "our feedbacks and voices are meaningless to MrDot or the staff".
You know you way out, you can go back to be pedantic and haughty in your little server we will do just fine

PS: Might want to fix your attitude going forward instead of always thinking you are in the right, numbers don't lie

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[Deleted member 4865569]

So far, i stop my support for intel, removed the patches for patreon, and also i probably will not take part in any conversations over here anymore.
Yes, believe it or not, i even consider to put this thead on ignore to give you the place to rant as much as you want like nobody cares - so have fun.

*boo, who what we will ever do without the great Hyperserver! And his “great PR,” Smugness, And arrogance and lack of able to take criticism without having any accountability whatsoever from a wider audience on this site! Also, he claims no one cares, But been doing damage control, and explaining himself for days now, BOO WHOO!

OH WOAH, IS ME! Such a loss! Time for me to crawl in a corner and think about all the "great pr" he did and blaming the people instead of themselves because "we didn't understand" and they messed up!

Welp don't let the door smack you in the back of the head on the way out!

 

[Son of Durin]

The amount of whiny children in these threads grows by the day. If you don't like a game then stop playing it, simples. Nobody in the real world gives a fuck about your gripes with these games. I just don't understand all these supposed adults crying anytime a developer dares to put something in THEIR game that they don't like, chances are very few even pay for the game in the first place. There's thousands of good AVNs out there so if you don't like it then move on and stop acting like crying faced cunts about it.

They are only adults physically; emotionally and mentally they are cursed to forever be toddlers.

 

[turgsh01]

They are only adults physically; emotionally and mentally they are cursed to forever be toddlers.

You just described every man on earth.

 

[Dogorti]

The amount of whiny children in these threads grows by the day. If you don't like a game then stop playing it, simples. Nobody in the real world gives a fuck about your gripes with these games. I just don't understand all these supposed adults crying anytime a developer dares to put something in THEIR game that they don't like, chances are very few even pay for the game in the first place. There's thousands of good AVNs out there so if you don't like it then move on and stop acting like crying faced cunts about it.

Look, although I really agree that there are a lot of trolls here, I don't think this is the case, people are only complaining about reasonable things like that each update the game gets worse or that the mc is insufferable, you can't pretend that people do not give their opinions after all this is also a forum where things are discussed and this game is one of them

 

[Aguzy]

And you're whining about people whining, "which is justified in this case" so you are no different.

Telling like it is bud. It's always the same here. A developer can't make the game they want to make these days without some group getting upset about it and wanting the developer to change his game because a scene in it hurt them. Like I say just don't play a game if it upsets you so much. It's not that hard a thing to do.

 

[Aguzy]

Look, although I really agree that there are a lot of trolls here, I don't think this is the case, people are only complaining about reasonable things like that each update the game gets worse or that the mc is insufferable, you can't pretend that people do not give their opinions after all this is also a forum where things are discussed and this game is one of them

If that's been happening with every update why are they still playing it then. Why are they getting so upset about it and not moving on if the game is so bad.

 

[turgsh01]

If that's been happening with every update why are they still playing it then. Why are they getting so upset about it and not moving on if the game is so bad.

Do you have any evidence to prove that it's always the same ppl complaining over and over and that they're not moving on? Because otherwise, you're just making assumptions. You also make it sound like it's a lot of ppl, so maybe provide a list if that's the case. If it's just a few ppl complaining, then I don't know why you'd bother complaining about the repeat complainers... just add them to ignore list and move on. It's what that feature is for. Complaining about complainers only adds fuel to the fire and derails the topic.

And don't worry, we'll wait right here for that list.

 

[Dogorti]

If that's been happening with every update why are they still playing it then. Why are they getting so upset about it and not moving on if the game is so bad.

As I told you there are trolls everywhere, in my case if I don't like something I try to stay as far away as I can, but I can't say that I don't understand them more seeing the attitude of the dev and some of those who answer for him...

And people are also very upset because this game had potential and so far everything is so disappointing and boring

You can't blame people for getting mad at seeing something they liked or saw as having potential to turn out to be shit, look at the ending of GOT for example

 

[aordd69]

two people banging without mc is ntr, what the fuck is wrong with you

MC has parents so theres NTR in the game.

 

[Son of Durin]

If that's been happening with every update why are they still playing it then. Why are they getting so upset about it and not moving on if the game is so bad.

Because, at the end of the day...

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[Dogorti]

Man, I wish I had hair like that.

you can always go to turkey....

 

[topsykretts89]

monroe

SUPPORT OFFICIALLY STOPPED!

Please edit to OP that for Patreon version there is a patch needed
these are the step-by-step installation instructions and the patch

important note:
Android version of patreon CAN NOT BE PATCHED (with this patch)
Subscribestar version DOES NOT NEED TO BE PATCHED
Only use this patch if you are playing a version from Patreon!

UPDATED: Added patch for v.2.0.6.1 extra (Fix/changes to 6th update for Chapter 2)

soooo...thats just gone then?

 

[Dogorti]

This is one of the better games on here. Some of you need to learn how to make this:
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whatever you say kebab seller

 

[turgsh01]

soooo...thats just gone then?

Give it a few minutes... the great thing about a community this powerful is that someone else will likely make a new unofficial one which is usually equally as good. Let the terrible PR guy do his worst... the game and thread will remain as always with or without PR / dev support.