VN Ren'Py Completed Sunshine Love [Ch. 3 v1.01i Extras] [MrDots Games]

[DA22]

I'm guessing they're doing it this way because the MC is going to be a crybaby for weeks after the break up and they don't want to redo half the game.

Well having the MC break it up does seem like a step to growth for him, taking some more control in his life finally after having crawled away from life more or less since his mom died and let others decide all major decisions in his life for him. Team set back MC very far from being a healthy proactive male capable of taking care of himself in the setup of story even if he has quite a few talents. Will be kinda hard to balance that well for them going forward with the story.

 

[freedom.call]

Well having the MC break it up does seem like a step to growth for him, taking some more control in his life finally after having crawled away from life more or less since his mom died and let others decide all major decisions in his life for him. Team set back MC very far from being a healthy proactive male capable of taking care of himself in the setup of story even if he has quite a few talents. Will be kinda hard to balance that well for them going forward with the story.

We'll see, I have little faith in mrdots MC's since the Melody/Bethany debacle. Ruined the game for me, I made MC leave with Bethany and never played again.

This MC being the one breaking up is not in character but I'm not complaining. I hope he grows a spine.

 

[bakuon]

here are my backups redone with version 3.1
if it can help for the next version planned for the 28th.

 

[hrimthyrs]

From https://f95zone.to/threads/tags-rules-and-list-updated-2019-03-24.10394/:

Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

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Netorare is a genre of anime, manga, or video game focused on infidelity. Commonly a subgenre of pornographic hentai anime, netorare storylines typically focus on the internal distress caused by one member in a relationship cheating on the other.

Netorare is not "I still have baggage from a conservative upbringing and think a woman's only place is in one man's—and only one man's—bed and anything else is fundamentally cheating even if it's done with permission."

 

[Hyperserver]

From https://f95zone.to/threads/tags-rules-and-list-updated-2019-03-24.10394/:



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Netorare is not "I still have baggage from a conservative upbringing and think a woman's only place is in one man's—and only one man's—bed and anything else is fundamentally cheating even if it's done with permission."

You may quote whatever you want... (even you are right though)

Still the only definition Mr Dots is going, is what his team stated officially several times (so better quote that one):

Quote fom discord:

From Jeff Steel, the current attorney in the developing group, being told that they are not going to overpromise on these restrictions. Netorare (寝取られ, most commonly abbreviated as NTR) comes from Notora. Notora is a Japanese term that literally translates to "taken away by sleeping with.” Netorare is therefore being defined as: (1) the MC having a love/dating interest and (2) having another person steal that love/dating interest away via sex, sexual prowess, etc. Thus defined, NTR would NOT include when the MC meets up with a love/dating interest that ALREADY has a different love/dating interest and the MC eventually steals her away. In fact, this would be Netori. NTR also does not include situations of sharing, swapping, taking a break, having a hall pass, or having a threesome. NTR also does not include situation where the MC chooses not to progress with a love/dating interest and that person moves on in with life with another partner.

 

[Maviarab]

Lol..they have their own attorney? Hahahahah....

Look dude...no one cares about NTR...or any variant of it. Nicole can fuck all of Austin, TX if she likes...if we've moved on no need to see it/render it is there? Nicole wants to move on...fine. No one cares. Is that simple enough? Dot's team already stated....she will NEVER see anyone else on the sharing path (kinda pointless offering it then)....

THAT is what all the fuss was about. Nothing more.

 

[DA22]

Lol..they have their own attorney? Hahahahah....

Look dude...no one cares about NTR...or any variant of it. Nicole can fuck all of Austin, TX if she likes...if we've moved on no need to see it/render it is there? Nicole wants to move on...fine. No one cares. Is that simple enough? Dot's team already stated....she will NEVER see anyone else on the sharing path (kinda pointless offering it then)....

THAT is what all the fuss was about. Nothing more.

Yeah or make a game with a strong female hetero sexual protagonist if you want to show those renders so badly, that ofc since the sex of protagonist has to go blueballing slow has a harem of bisexual males that have rendered gay sex for first half of the game to set up her later threesomes. Now then you also work on gender equality in porn games, just not sure how many fans you will have.

 

[freedom.call]

Lol..they have their own attorney? Hahahahah....

Attorneys know a thing or two about things.

she will NEVER see anyone else on the sharing path (kinda pointless offering it then)....

Would make more sense the MC saying that from what we know. Wouldn't be much of a game though.

 

[Maviarab]

Attorneys know a thing or two about things.

Would make more sense the MC saying that from what we know. Wouldn't be much of a game though.

Hmm..if you had a male protag...but who never had sex...but all his GF's did...would you still need the sex tags?

 

[freedom.call]

would you still need the sex tags?

No, but it looks like you'd need ex-tags.

 

[pilgrim2003]

Yeah or make a game with a strong female hetero sexual protagonist if you want to show those renders so badly, that ofc since the sex of protagonist has to go blueballing slow has a harem of bisexual males that have rendered gay sex for first half of the game to set up her later threesomes. Now then you also work on gender equality in porn games, just not sure how many fans you will have.

It needs to be put in test, that's for sure

 

[ShadowThrone]

I wonder how much of a difference the open-relationship and break-up will actually be.
If you break up, is she out of the game completely, or she continues to be in it, but not as your girlfriend? Going forward, I'm not sure what her role is supposed to be.
We are already seeing parts of her life without the MC, so how much of the open relationship will the player see? (we already know it will not be discussed between MC and Nicole)
In theory, the only difference between the choices could be the removal of their video chats.
Personally, I do not care what see does, I just don't want to have to magically see it.

 

[MrFriendly]

I wonder how much of a difference the open-relationship and break-up will actually be.
If you break up, is she out of the game completely, or she continues to be in it, but not as your girlfriend? Going forward, I'm not sure what her role is supposed to be.
We are already seeing parts of her life without the MC, so how much of the open relationship will the player see? (we already know it will not be discussed between MC and Nicole)
In theory, the only difference between the choices could be the removal of their video chats.
Personally, I do not care what see does, I just don't want to have to magically see it.

Unfortunately it’s very likely we will see it. Which I don’t understand and haven’t from the beginning. She is not listed as a love interest, she’s unhappy with their life together, so why would the MC see/know about her life if they break up? (I think a lot of people plan on breaking up with her). I hope the devs allow the player to skip Nicole content but I have a feeling that’s unlikely.

 

[freedom.call]

Unfortunately it’s very likely we will see it. Which I don’t understand and haven’t from the beginning. She is not listed as a love interest, she’s unhappy with their life together, so why would the MC see/know about her life if they break up? (I think a lot of people plan on breaking up with her). I hope the devs allow the player to skip Nicole content but I have a feeling that’s unlikely.

I'm definitely breaking up with her unless she shows up and says I have to come home with her then I'll go. Pretty sure this MC's brother was Melody MC.

 

[Hyperserver]

Lol..they have their own attorney? Hahahahah....

Yes - surprisingly some people (even when in a developer's team too) might have a "real life job"

....she will NEVER see anyone else on the sharing path (kinda pointless offering it then)....

well - you guys should learn the difference between "open relation" and "sharing" -> there was never ever a sharing path and there will be none.
"Open Relation" is still in there for good reason.

Still you can choose what's "best fit" for you" - though the game is no "we deliver what YOU want", but more a "take it - or leave it"

 

[_-]

Appreciate the willingness not only to revise the last version but to put it out two weeks before the next release.
Thank you to the MrDots team!

 

[Trikus]

I can't believe people are still throwing their childish hissy fits over the Nicole situation. I personally preferred it the original intended way but this is what we have now. It would have helped this VN be a bit more unique, but mob rules changed it. Fine, move on. Something that makes me laugh is people complaining about large parts of text. Do they know the N part of VN stands for novel? It isn't a porn game, it is a visual novel with porn in it. If you want something that just cuts to the chase, well, there are plenty of porn games out there that would be better suited. I am personally loving the characters and the world that has been created. The world building has been great so far. Come for the porn, stay for the story.

 

[Hyperserver]

I can't believe people are still throwing their childish hissy fits over the Nicole situation. I personally preferred it the original intended way but this is what we have now. It would have helped this VN be a bit more unique, but mob rules changed it. Fine, move on. Something that makes me laugh is people complaining about large parts of text. Do they know the N part of VN stands for novel? It isn't a porn game, it is a visual novel with porn in it. If you want something that just cuts to the chase, well, there are plenty of porn games out there that would be better suited. I am personally loving the characters and the world that has been created. The world building has been great so far. Come for the porn, stay for the story.

Finally some still know the sense and how to see the intention of MrDots' "games". A good fleshed out, well written story together with a detailed ambiente and side-kicks with each their own characters and mentalities. The "porn" aspect is just a (necessary and of course wanted) part of the whole NOVEL.

Just interested in pure porn -> google for it and watch porn
Just interested in "harem-fuck-feast games"? Well, then this isn't something for you and you should stop READING this

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, and more than that:
STOP complaing over here and just give it a cut! No one forces anyone to like, love and/or to stick on this one!

Just for the record - a partitional quote out of the

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... which consist predominantly of narration and have very few interactive elements ...

EDIT:
for now, this is just the beginning of a long story (NOVEL) - just the basic setup is made. Now you can decide if you want to continue READING that NOVEL, or you can drop it. The basic story (EVEN NICOLES open relationship) is already planned and has it's reason to be in there or not. We can't reveal the whole planned story plot, as this would completely destroy the sense of a NOVEL.
And further than that -> Just try to read a book, and after the first chapter complain to the author that he should change the story just because YOU don't like it. NO one would take you serious. Even more you should just go to buy a book which suits you!
Also most of the complainers over here aren't even supporters -> So it's more like they steal a car, but then complain to the owner that he tuned the car wrong and the engine setup is not as they expected and want the owner to change that, so that they can enjoy the stolen car even more.
And just in case some might now reply like "we support the developer.... so we can decide ...." -> NO - you CAN NOT! Supporting is NOT "buying" ANY rights to decide, demand or whatever you want to call it. If you like -> then donate.... If you don't like, it's also fine and no one will judge you, as long as you stop to trashtalk and rage.

 

[Hyperserver]

Funny side-note:
There are a lot of people who said "I am DONE with this because of ....." (and rage).

We think "fine - finally they are done and the one's who like can enjoy..."

Next update:
The same "i am done"-complainers still appear again just to rage, instead of sticking to their own words and just quit
(just saying)

 

[freedom.call]

I can't believe people are still throwing their childish hissy fits over the Nicole situation. I personally preferred it the original intended way but this is what we have now.

You can still have open relationship iirc, unless you wanted to stay faithful nothing's changed.

If you want something that just cuts to the chase, well, there are plenty of porn games out there that would be better suited.

I haven't seen anyone here saying they want (more) porn and less story.