Gtdead

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The problem isn't people who self-insert, it's the ones who carry that self-insert too far and stop seperating fiction from reality - they bitch about things that happened "to them", or the absolute worst that happens on these forums of people bitching about some fictional woman having sex in a game with other fictional characters that aren't "them".
I tend to call this phenomenon mirepresentation, but the sad reality is that some people act so fucking entitled that there is no reasonable approach that will work on them.

At the very least, in the discussion thread, as long as you are not offensive, you can post whatever you like and you will be subject to scrutiny/criticism. So when someone misrepresents for whatever reason, people can respond and set the record straight.

The worst part is when they voice their problems in the reviews.

Subtracting points for (random examples I have in mind)
- Lesbian intra-harem relationships where the game is explicit about it.
- More content for certain characters, despite them having a more prominent role in the story anyway.
- Prioritizing trap content for straight content due to story reasons.
- Violent/unreasonable protagonist, despite the game being explicit about it.
- Calling NTR when the characters in question have no relation to MC.
- Claiming that 2 tags are mutually exclusive, like Harem and Sharing, before even seeing the resolution of that content.

The problem is that you can't make any counterargument in reviews due to the medium. It's also unreasonable to report someone for misrepresentation. Not only it can be weaponized, but it's hard to prove that this is the case. Not hard in the sense that it's hard to prove it, but you have to make a complete argument, the moderator needs to be or be made familiar with the content and there is no guarantee that the direction of the novel won't change in the future.
 
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Snugglepuff

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It's also unreasonable to report someone for misrepresentation. Not only it can be weaponized, but it's hard to prove that this is the case. Not hard in the sense that it's hard to prove it, but you have to make a complete argument, the moderator needs to be or be made familiar with the content and there is no guarantee that the direction of the novel won't change in the future.
It depends on the moderator, the review, and what you say in the report... As with 99% of all reports, for better or worse.
I've reported reviews that were blatantly wrong/lying about a game and its content, and most were dealt with positively.
 

Gtdead

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It depends on the moderator, the review, and what you say in the report... As with 99% of all reports, for better or worse.
I've reported reviews that were blatantly wrong/lying about a game and its content, and most were dealt with positively.
That's good. I may attempt to report some select 1 and 2 star reviews that are blatant misrepresentation, see the reactions.
 

harem.king

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"Blank slate" in so far as we shape his development through the course of the story.
"You/Us" as in the MC is the means by which we get to immerse ourselves into the world and story, not that the protagonist is us.

We can shape him, but we are not him.
you are wrong, and I can easily prove it.
just start a new game

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"What is your name?" you are asked by the game as soon as you start a new a game.

The name you input for YOUR NAME is the name of the main character.
You ARE the main character. He is there for you to self insert into.

He even has Complete Retrograde Amnesia for his childhood (everything before the car accident) to make the self insert process smoother.
Although he is not a completely blank slate. He has a standard normal teen circle after that.
 

harem.king

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Self-insertion is key and is always guaranteed because of how a visual novel game is structured. Even if it is kinetic, because it needs the involvement of a third party to enable the actions of the main character, as this game has "choices" that are enabled by your action. It's way different from a book that's independent of anything you do.
It doesn't mean an ego trip either, as if you have choices to make, you will rationalize the best choice or what you want to see, and that's inserting yourself.
Exactly. that is literally the whole point of an adult GAME.
I never self insert in books.
I never self insert in a movie.
I never self insert when I am on pornhub watching a porno.

But in a GAME you are given a meat puppet to wear and guide through life as you make choices. Literally the whole point of the entire medium is the self insert experience.
 

Snugglepuff

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you are wrong, and I can easily prove it.
No, I'm not. No, You didn't.

Naming the player's character is older than video games, and it has never, ever meant that the player's character is the player.
You can give the PC the same name as yourself, make choices that are presented to you based on your own morality, but it is still not you.

Nobody sane has ever played Dungeons and Dragons and believed they were the Elven Cleric they made and gave the same name as themself, because there's no such thing as an Elven Cleric and all settings used in Dungeons and Dragons are fictitous, and that's a system where the players characters are referred to directly in the appropriate first and second-person perspectives by themselves and the Dungeon Master.
 
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KingAgamemnon

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Okay so crackpot theory.

There is a connection between MC and Charlie; we can intuit this from a few deductions. One, they look similar. Two, Shopkeeper refers to them both as Charlie. Three, ???. Four, profit.

We know that Charlie is younger than the MC. Now I don't quite recall how old she is, but she kinda looks to be around the age range that MC was when his accident occurred. So bear with me, but what if Charlie was once a part of the MC?

We know that in order to give birth to the MC, Syla had to modify herself in some way such that she was capable of conception. Now since we know she was nearly purely Memory, that means that some other power was necessary in order for this to work. The most logical choice being Truth.

Now this would unfortunately mean that the MC would no longer be a perfect balance of Body and Memory. He would have some amount of Truth in him, but we have never even seen a hint of this. In fact, from all accounts, he seems to be purely Body and Memory. So then where did the Truth part of him go?

Charlie's power is based on Truth. She looks very similar to the MC, and she is roughly at an appropriate age range.

What I think happened is that Syla literally tore Charlie out of the MC to ensure that he was pure/balanced enough for the Third's plans.
 

Dipasimaan

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Okay so crackpot theory.

There is a connection between MC and Charlie; we can intuit this from a few deductions. One, they look similar. Two, Shopkeeper refers to them both as Charlie. Three, ???. Four, profit.

We know that Charlie is younger than the MC. Now I don't quite recall how old she is, but she kinda looks to be around the age range that MC was when his accident occurred. So bear with me, but what if Charlie was once a part of the MC?

We know that in order to give birth to the MC, Syla had to modify herself in some way such that she was capable of conception. Now since we know she was nearly purely Memory, that means that some other power was necessary in order for this to work. The most logical choice being Truth.

Now this would unfortunately mean that the MC would no longer be a perfect balance of Body and Memory. He would have some amount of Truth in him, but we have never even seen a hint of this. In fact, from all accounts, he seems to be purely Body and Memory. So then where did the Truth part of him go?

Charlie's power is based on Truth. She looks very similar to the MC, and she is roughly at an appropriate age range.

What I think happened is that Syla literally tore Charlie out of the MC to ensure that he was pure/balanced enough for the Third's plans.
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Why would you overcomplicate something?
Not to criticize but why would Syla pick up Truth when Body is perfect and more available for her, you basically can change you body down to the genetics so you potentially can get pregnant.
Secondly, Charlie's power is most probably Authority or even Order, the latter being far more improbable, and she's 16 so the age doesn't fit
 
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Zeca Suez

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But in a GAME you are given a meat puppet to wear and guide through life as you make choices. Literally the whole point of the entire medium is the self insert experience.
Meat Puppet... little Ellie ?
Is there any other games similar to this? I really enjoyed playing this , I’m just waiting for the new update to drop
Not really... other games with similar concepts and kinks are usually poor in quality and most of the good quality ones do not have similar concepts. This one is a rare blend of great concepts, unique story telling and weird sex stuff. Hard to find other games that will scratch this particular itch.
 

KingAgamemnon

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Why would you overcomplicate something?
Not to criticize but why would Syla pick up Truth when Body is perfect and more available for her, you basically can change you body down to the genetics so you potentially can get pregnant.
Secondly, Charlie's power is most probably Authority or even Order, the latter being far more improbable, and she's 16 so the age doesn't fit
I had considered Body, but then her concern about MC not being pure/balanced enough due to her own modifications doesn't make sense. No, I think it has to be one of the other powers. Authority doesn't really make too much sense. Order would probably work, but also it is exceptionally improbable. Of the remaining powers, Truth makes the most sense to me.

As for the age part, it's more of an ancillary argument. In theory, the age is actually irrelevant, so long as she is younger than the MC. She could've either been removed from him as an infant, child, or slightly younger, and I don't think it would change all that much.

As for the powers, I can see Authority, but Truth is not a bad fit by any stretch of the imagination.

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Why would you overcomplicate something?
To be fair, I did call it a crackpot theory
 

CandyGuru2214

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Meat Puppet... little Ellie ?

Not really... other games with similar concepts and kinks are usually poor in quality and most of the good quality ones do not have similar concepts. This one is a rare blend of great concepts, unique story telling and weird sex stuff. Hard to find other games that will scratch this particular itch.
Oh okay thanks
 
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