VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99] [WeirdWorld]

[kibaris]

Met will absolutely wipe the floor with Michael and Alice both unless Xanthe's reward for Alice turns out to be something big.

Yea, but that was a lvl1 against a lvl2, the gap btwen lvl2 and lvl3 is more than a lvl1 and lvl2

Even more thant that because Klauss wasnt really level 2 , he didnt have the real serum but "that defective crap", from what Nico said when she want the true serum to evolve to level 5 .
I dont understand why people underestimate Met so much, even Ella tell us that if it's possible for a level 1 to win against a level 2, it's almost impossible for a level 2 to win against a level 3 ...

 

[sexoffended]

Even more thant that because Klauss wasnt really level 2 , he didnt have the real serum but "that defective crap", from what Nico said when she want the true serum to evolve to level 5 .
I dont understand why people underestimate Met so much, even Ella tell us that if it's possible for a level 1 to win against a level 2, it's almost impossible for a level 2 to win against a level 3 ...

I certainly don't underestimate him. There's just a lot more factors to account for than most people notice.

 

[Lucyel]

Personally i believe that:

The objective of the apostles in general is to find "heirs" to their power, ONLY their power, meaning a single trait absolutely powerfull as a mean to leave their "ascended" plane and inhabit a body in this world, not just their usual avatars.
Something that has been speculated, yes, but that would make the idea that they want to create arbiters quite difficult, by that i mean doing the same but taking together the same spawn with both traits, by choosing one so heavily inclined in one direction shows that joining in a single body is not the plan at all, so it really seems that the only apostles working together are Body and Memory with the others only caring about themselves

If that is the case maybe those two want to find a single heir to join as an arbiter but the others are not working to that end.

I think that to, if memory and body are trying to make an unique spawn whit both their traits it would mean in essence that their are creating an arbiter, or at least something similar

 

[Lucyel]

If we are talking about Lovecraftian lore. Then, the apostles can already be considered gods as they are the ancestors of their own species.
You shouldn't consider that there is only one omnipotent god as that's more of an Abrahamic way of thinking.
Now, I'm really more interested in the great ocean and consequently in the Foxglove Twins.

Yes, you can and they are consideres Gods, but the game already told us that there are other beings avobe of them

 

[sexoffended]

Im doubt this is a lost battle. Yes Met is a lvl3 and we cant understimate that, the gap btwen lvl2 and lvl3 is a lot, but both Alice and Micheal are spawns of apostols, Alice being the spawn of a chocen of one, and Michel being the direct spawn of one. And is clear that the spawns of the apostols are special, i doubt it would be an easy battle, i guees it would end as a tie

Apostle lineage doesn't matter much. If anything, all that power they enjoy is thoroughly compensated by difficulties with evolution. They are more powerful than anything on their level, but others are able to jump levels a lot easier.

 

[sexoffended]

Yes, you can and they are consideres Gods, but the game already told us that there are other beings avobe of them

Currently Xanthe jr. is theorising that Apostles came either from Outer Twins separated into 6 entities each or 6 Arbiters split into twin pairs.

 

[Lucyel]

Perhaps i should try to clarify, when i said "God" i didn't mean based on a perspective from any religion/mithology from our world but instead according to the lore of the game.

So, yes in a sense all apostles are gods on the same way as some gods from phanteons ruled aspects of reality, like thunder, war etc. but on the superhuman world there are references to a being considered as "God".
Valravn mentions it's existence and how his master opposes it, Mc during his first evolition trance says "For god and Glory" as a dialogue option, Syla mentions how all apostles have bits and pieces of each other which indicates a commom origin and more important.
ALL APOSTLES IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS ONE ASPECT OF "GOD"
Authority as God's will, Memory as God's insight and etc, so why call themselves like that if they don't believe in an almighty god ? why consider themselves as aspects of a god instead of "the god of will" or "the goddes of insight" if such being doesn't exist ? .

If the "God" mentioned really exists then it's a being more powerfull then all of then, a creature capable of commanding all aspects of reality, not over single ones (apostles) or dual ones (arbiters).

It was especulated that the eye was an arbiter waiting to exist again but is that really the case ? after all they ARE know and have names and that's not the Eye's case.

I dont remember much, but in the conversations whit Aglaecwif (the monster guarding the Hexring before we fight monster Deryl) she implies that the arbiters dosnt exist in this realm anymore, maybe that wasnt by will, and them, or some of them are waiting for a way to reborn in this realm?

 

[Lucyel]

Even more thant that because Klauss wasnt really level 2 , he didnt have the real serum but "that defective crap", from what Nico said when she want the true serum to evolve to level 5 .
I dont understand why people underestimate Met so much, even Ella tell us that if it's possible for a level 1 to win against a level 2, it's almost impossible for a level 2 to win against a level 3 ...

DUUUUDE, I already forgot that Klaus use a trash serum, thx for rememberme that, yea it was maybe a 1.5 vs a 1. And for real, lvl2 means nothing to lvl3, at least in raw power, the outcome would depend on how they can use their powers.
I think Alice and Michel have a chance, mostly bcs they are two lvl2, and spawns of apostles

 

[Lucyel]

Apostle lineage doesn't matter much. If anything, all that power they enjoy is thoroughly compensated by difficulties with evolution. They are more powerful than anything on their level, but others are able to jump levels a lot easier.

Yes, maybe others can grow faster, but the game already show us how spawns of apostles can be a treat, they are more powerful than a normal superhuman at their lvl of evolution, so i dont think we can say it doesnt matter. Yet, i dont think they would win

 

[kibaris]

DUUUUDE, I already forgot that Klaus use a trash serum, thx for rememberme that, yea it was maybe a 1.5 vs a 1. And for real, lvl2 means nothing to lvl3, at least in raw power, the outcome would depend on how they can use their powers.
I think Alice and Michel have a chance, mostly bcs they are two lvl2, and spawns of apostles

They have their chance yes, Met will dominate this fight without much doubt, Michael can absorb Energy so he have a good matchup here, but it wont be enough , Mc at level 2 had a perfect matchup against Valravn (C+ which should have required at least a level 3), and even so it was a very complicated fight for him and he had to rest for a day and half after that ( an without is regeneration he would be long dead) but Michael have Alice , the question is what will do Rina, i would expect that she evolve to level 2 at least, if not she wont last long .

 

[Lucyel]

They have their chance yes, Met will dominate this fight without much doubt, Michael can absorb Energy so he have a good matchup here, but it wont be enough , Mc at level 2 had a perfect matchup against Valravn (C+ which should have required at least a level 3), and even so it was a very complicated fight for him and he had to rest for a day and half after that ( an without is regeneration he would be long dead) but Michael have Alice , the question is what will do Rina, i would expect that she evolve to level 2 at least, if not she wont last long .

Yea, the outcome of that fight rlly depends on the strategy Alice and Michel decide to use to compensate the lack of raw power they have against Met, if they dont find a way they are fuked

 

[JackDiabrew]

I rlly, REALLY, hope that he scape, so we can have a rematch when he is at his full power

I hope so too, and damn that cliffhanger was worse than the previous finished my main run now all that remains is skill only and full on corruption. What's the max power level for you guys? Mines at 484, also what's your predicted max power gonna be right before we hit level 4 evolution? On a side note Tanos gonna need to pay for that cliffhanger, I'm gonna rip out that implanted eye of his.

 

[Edvin]

I wonder if the dozen top original monsters exist in physical form...
Well, or more precisely, if they exist in physical form in our world.
After all, we know there are such things as other dimensions in this game.

But something tells me that it is not easy for a being of such power to cross into our world.
Maybe they need a spawn pure enough and strong enough to make it their avatar.
Someone whose body would be strong enough to withstand their presence.

Suddenly, the prospect of being the top pure alpha dog among superhumans is no longer so appealing.
It might not turn out well for us if we turn out to be the perfect host.

 

[kibaris]

I wonder if the dozen top original monsters exist in physical form...
Well, or more precisely, if they exist in physical form in our world.
After all, we know there are such things as other dimensions in this game.

They exist, but they need an avatar to manifest themself, for now they are in another plan the 2th appear and kill Michael after is fight, the 3th or the 4th mc after that Ella gave him a pill, the 7th to turn Valravn when he was just a raven (and kill the 4th, Ella and mc in dead end 3) and the 1th also manifested to jake when he take Ella's pill but we didnt see it directly)

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[Edvin]

They exist, the 2th appear and kill Michael after is fight, the 3th or the 4th mc after that Ella gave him a pill, the 7th to turn Valravn when he was just a raven (and kill the 4th, Ella and mc in dead end 3) and the 1th also manifested to jake when he take Ella's pill but we didnt see it directly)

You said it yourself.
"Manifested"

My original argument still stands.
I don't think they can exist on their own in this world, at least not for more than a little while.
I also don't believe you could find them hidden deep in some cave in Mexico.

I think they exist in some other dimension that is inaccessible to us (at least for now) and that they cannot just leave.
Superhumans are probably their plan to create the perfect body for permanent transfer to this reality.

EDIT:
We have continued this conversation privately and we have the same opinion.

 

[ProgessiveDetailed]

I wonder if the dozen top original monsters exist in physical form...
Well, or more precisely, if they exist in physical form in our world.
After all, we know there are such things as other dimensions in this game.

But something tells me that it is not easy for a being of such power to cross into our world.
Maybe they need a spawn pure enough and strong enough to make it their avatar.
Someone whose body would be strong enough to withstand their presence.

Suddenly, the prospect of being the top pure alpha dog among superhumans is no longer so appealing.
It might not turn out well for us if we turn out to be the perfect host.

there is no dozen original monster unless you talking about the likes of valravn and aglaecwif as well as the other chosen.

 

[JoeSlace]

Any guesses in why Bernhard is so strong?

 

[DidNothingWrong]

Any guesses in why Bernhard is so strong?

Going all they way to evo 5 natural way and being superhuman for more than 50 years.

 

[troglodyte]

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[kibaris]

Any guesses in why Bernhard is so strong?

a very good question,

We can rule out the parent monster because Malik who rivals Bernhardt is almost as strong and the monster who turned him was a c-rank.
We also know that even before he reached level 5, he was already absurdly strong, since it's mentioned that he was already stronger than Elijah and Kira level 5 even before he reached it himself.



Eiseth mentions that this is not natural.
Ella could drain power from Valravnh through some ritual, maybe that's part of the explanation since he has the highest S-rank kill count, but how would he have access to that kind of knowledge?

Bramon can give a monster heart to mc to copy it because it's close, maybe rather than just copying, he has done experiments on the M division and they are biologically partialy monster?

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