Nightguy1

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those really aren't canon though imo, if they were the game would be pretty short. Not saying they aren't impressive or whatever, but for the overall continuity of the game they don't count.
Of course it counts all dead ends are set in the world they dont show things that arent possible so all dead end feats are canonical unless your claiming your own head cannon above the author. But yea nico power is the most op it pretty much defines the superhuman meta no matter what your powers are you have to evolve something to handle her or your pretty much dead even if your could say survive the surface of the sun your still stuck on it.
 
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DrakoGhoul

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those really aren't canon though imo, if they were the game would be pretty short. Not saying they aren't impressive or whatever, but for the overall continuity of the game they don't count.
They are canon. WW already said that there's no real difference in abilities of characters shown in the dead end vs in game. It wouldn't make sense anyway to separate them. Each powers is used depending on the situation at hand. Neither Bernhardt or Deus have any reason to use those abilities in the game as no one would currently be on the same level as Origin MC. The game also wouldn't be short because the Apostles, Arbiters and Outer Twins are well above both of them and the game isn't centered around those two.

To give an example of situation based abilities:

- Deus light ray attacks seen in the dead end has been used on a monster in the immaterial world, while on earth. Deus only used that ability once prior. Is it not canon still?

- Valravn and the 7th both revealed that the Apostle does in fact goes around killing his siblings. That's something that's only revealed in the dead end. Does that not show that the 7th is capable of killing Apostles?

- MC grew his tail in the very first dead end, when he lost control of his power. That same tail was unlocked later in his 2nd Evolution. Is that ability not canon?

- Bernhardt Planck Pressure pretty much collapsed reality into an attack. Prior to that, Bernhardt, without even using his full power, warped Eisheth reality and turned earth back to normal before compressing her in game. He along with Malik and Henri did something similar by just powering up. Is his Planck Pressure really not canon?

- There's also the fact that the Origin MC actually remembers his first defeat against Deus, when he fights Bernhardt. While they're both dead ends, it shows that the Origin is aware of the many times he's failed. Even back with the 7th killing the 4th, Ella and MC. MC sees a flash of that scene. Even though it's a dead end and didn't happen.


Even if you did want to exclude those dead ends for whatever reason, though. Malik also has his own Planck attack, which Nyx was worried about. Bernhardt is considered stronger than Malik.

Of course it counts all dead ends are set in the world they dont show things that arent possible so all dead end feats are canonical unless your claiming your own head cannon above the author. But yea nix power is the most op it pretty much defines the superhuman meta no matter what your powers are you have to evolve something to handle her or your pretty much dead even if your could say survive the surface of the sun your still stuck on it.
I believe you're confusing Nico with Nyx. Nico has the teleporting. Nyx has the Negative Energy and green marks.
 

Ddlc

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Regen is pretty strong all things considered, but Nyx is kinda fucking op to be honest, she can pretty much off anyone with a thought, it doesn't get much stronger than that
I wonder if Nyx powers work like memory or body, in the sense that superhumans naturally resist changes with their own power and if you are not careful it might exhaust you so fast you may even die. Because otherwise it's absolutely broken.
 

torohror

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So i started going in to this game and i just have to ask, probably thinking a bit too far with this one, but the only weakness we have is electricity right? But which part exactly is fatal? the main component of electricity are electrons, but if electrons are the fatal thing then everything is fatal. Because electrons are the main components of atoms. And atoms are everything.
 

Abazzaba

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So i started going in to this game and i just have to ask, probably thinking a bit too far with this one, but the only weakness we have is electricity right? But which part exactly is fatal? the main component of electricity are electrons, but if electrons are the fatal thing then everything is fatal. Because electrons are the main components of atoms. And atoms are everything.
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Ddlc

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So i started going in to this game and i just have to ask, probably thinking a bit too far with this one, but the only weakness we have is electricity right? But which part exactly is fatal? the main component of electricity are electrons, but if electrons are the fatal thing then everything is fatal. Because electrons are the main components of atoms. And atoms are everything.
As funny as this may look this is actually a good explanation, since it depends on information from a later point in game than you are i will put in spoilers, but in short most people here believe there is a supernatural component to Mc's weakness to electricity, outside of the regular scientific explanation.
Basically all superhumans have acess to "monster power" this is what allows then to do whatever they are capable of, from changing their height to manifesting flames, but the effects they manifest in reality are not totally subject of the laws of nature, meaning that even if there is a scientific explanation to many things they do there is also a supernatural component that cannot be explained.
In Mc's weakness case he points out that everything made from his body is vulnerable to electricity, if you consider the science behind it, doesn't make sense because there is a lot of materials resistant to electricity he could transform to avoid negative effects, however the supernatural is different.
It's possible that his inner monster power just reacts to eletricity in a very specific way, activating and powering an uncontrollable growth on his body, this reaction happens not on the material he is made but on his power, if he tranforms in something that is not conductive the contact is enough to start the process.

I should also point out that many people here are not convinced of this idea and have different views, so it's definitly better if you come to your own conclusion after reaching the last update, we are always talking about theories here after all.
 

bfc233

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the art will grow on you over time
I will be honest, if you told me that when I started this up, it would have felt like a threat.

But it's true.

those really aren't canon though
They are.

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cares more about personal power than she does people
No. She cares more about the world she wants to bring about and is consigned to the fact that people will die along the way.
We know by now that the last part is true no matter who or what takes the rudder, given the monster invasion's implcations.
The thing we don't know is what her end goals are, because the actual outlook of the world is bleak enough that she could have a point.

She is just too damnn obtuse about what and why of her goals. And its easy to dislike her for that alone. Even without considering her means.
No matter what. Don't trust someone who doesn't trust you.
 
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