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therealguy30

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oh so Mia doesn't get
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She does, but you help her get her memories back on your own later, at the bonfire party. She learns you killed Jake and is, understandably, upset, and MC acts a little "corrupt" in response, scaring her off. I just wish killing him didn't have to be tied to corruption and "giving in" to the primal urges. MC has killed plenty of people without it being a corruptive thing.
 

obibobi

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Yeah, for the entire game its been pretty obvious that Ella is a schemer and it up to some shit, being secretive and mysterious are kinda like 80% of her characterization lmao. You also see her talking to monsters when you first join HERO, and she lets Valravn out, so it's not like something like that wasn't foreshadowed, you can't really call something an asspull when there is foreshadowing towards it, and things like Glae not actually following what Ella wants. SIN also still kinda gets dunked on by HERO in that encounter so it's not like it undermines how much power HERO have. If anything I think it would kinda just be really fucking lame if Ella and SIN were pushovers that got kicked around by HERO without a fight
I'm with other poster in that early Ella and late game Ella don't fully mesh.
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Grimnir098

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I'm with other poster in that early Ella and late game Ella don't fully mesh.
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I don't think anything has changed.

1. It's pretty clear that everything Ella has done is in service to a higher purpose, some overarching goal. That includes dating Dave and messing with the MC and other students.

2. People can be soft with some people and extremely cold to others. She doesn't actually kill the MC, though. That dead end seems to be the same as the one where she takes him to Memory and they get ambushed by the Lord of Darkness. WW just didn't want to retread old ground.
 
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I'm with other poster in that early Ella and late game Ella don't fully mesh.
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I wouldn’t say they don’t mesh, I think it’s more that she feels just feels a lot more like a pure villain when you don’t understand anything about her. Most of the ‘Ella being less awful’ shit also comes from Doll Ella, which is her pre meeting the MC again, so there could be some reason for a slight attitude shift we’re not aware of. Having perspective on things like Hero being kinda awful, Tanos and his connection to her, the scenes with Christie and Emily after Ella ‘dies’, and the fact that Ella had known the MC in the past (although that much was obvious for a long while at least to me) do a lot to humanize her even if she’s still kind of an evil bitch. Ella hasn’t exactly just been completely evil the whole game either. She’s kinda never not been on the MC’s side, even if ‘being on his side’ means throwing shit at him to see if he’ll survive it. We’ve already seen her do ‘good’ things like taking care of the orphan kids and fixing Mia. In both cases she pretty upfront tells the MC something along the lines of ‘why can’t I be evil sometimes and good sometimes?’ She’s always struck me as the type of character that would end up being an ‘I do what needs to be done’ type anti-hero/anti-villain
 

shujuku

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She does, but you help her get her memories back on your own later, at the bonfire party. She learns you killed Jake and is, understandably, upset, and MC acts a little "corrupt" in response, scaring her off. I just wish killing him didn't have to be tied to corruption and "giving in" to the primal urges. MC has killed plenty of people without it being a corruptive thing.
Would be cooler if killing him and consuming him were two different choices.
 

Belauchet

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Does anybody know how to get a save from a pc to another? i recently switched my pc and i can't find a way to get my progress back from my old pc.
 

Elduriel

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Does anybody know how to get a save from a pc to another? i recently switched my pc and i can't find a way to get my progress back from my old pc.
saves are stored in the %APPDATA%/Roaming/RenPy/ directory, copy the contents of that to the same location on your new PC
 
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OnlineRando

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still, Nyx has a particular set of skills, I wonder how those 3 would fare against that
I assume that depends how her power works. IIRC it was never really described to be anti-life or the likes, but rather negative energy. The name of the power, and her showing when Michael and Tiffany were evolving, makes one think she drains someone's monster power.

If you look at her ability like that, she'd be positively useless against anyone with power relative to or higher than hers, in other words, Bernhardt, Henri, and Malik, possibly even some or all other level 5s.

It could even be argued that Ella was only affected so drastically and/or quickly by Nyx's move because Malik greatly tired her power reserves beforehand, as I remember someone (Malik I think?) saying Ella's invulnerability thing probably used a lot of energy, not to mention Ella practically went through a gauntlet beforehand. Otherwise, it could be argued that Ella just had lower power reserves compared to the average level 5 since she just recently evolved.

Then again, she does have abilities directly related to life (or death rather), such as resurrecting someone, so there may be more to it than that, but we can't quite tell.
 
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