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exactly, your relationship with ella develops over time rather than her being instantly in love with you the moment you meet because you are the main character
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Sorry if i'm derailing the ella topic but i just had to ask in the coming future if u guys think we will get our own house/base since if we do get a hexaring under control and with Alice possibly doing the same power to an extent we could have a fall back point where we can work on improving the place and living there if and when the world fully goes to shit
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I think will depend how fucked up the Earth will be. Hopefully enough to not be tied to HERO anymore. Or at least they get us loose.
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Not possible. There's no other Hexenringe like Hex. It's a unique M33 with control over space and time. Which is what allows it to create dimensions. Alice would have to make that specific one her Hexenringe and that's not possible. Then there's the fact that Alice wouldn't be able to reproduce the same effects as well. She lines majority into Ether or the 6th Apostle's trait. She's not like MC, and doesn't have a bit of the 5th Apostle within her. So she has no control over time.
Even if she wants Hex, it's too strong for the current her and Nico is likely going to kill it. So Alice is likely going to get a newly created Hexenringe from the Daoine Sith. Whether it be cause Aos made one for her or it chose her. So around B Class. The rank probably doesn't matter as it could probably level up with her over time. Being limited to A Rank, max.
Now if you're just referring to a base within the monster world itself, it's possible but they would have to dominate a region and have worshipers guard it for them. Definitely possible, especially if Alice and Michael reached Level 3 as well. That's 4 direct Apostle descendants taking a land for themselves.
Yes in the monster world plus if Deryl can make something with our girl Alice's help we can just blip in and out two planes of creation or and i'm just reaching here he make's a mobile base somewhere on earth or space better yet since i feel like there will come a time where we will need a place like this if the power of our foe's suddenly increase's beyond even the top brass of hero
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It's probably because mc considered him a friend in his 2nd evolution. Sure he killed evil people but he never actually killed people who he thought as a friend
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true. i believe mc deep down don't want to kill people he know. corruption is there to allow us to do it.
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What fucking cuckold writing. MC literally walked in on Jake making two of his harem girls show him their boobs and HE CONSIDERS HIM A FRIEND?
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I guess you haven't seen the Liz NTR route. It's fucking awesome
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Bro, there is a literal NTR route for Liz. Also, Jake is mindraping everyone near him just by existing.
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Humm...I really don't understand this one, Jake doesn't use his powers to harm people around him passively, or even to mind control them. The only passive power (just by existing) he has is to make people miss attacks against him, everything else depends on him wanting to do something, not just being around.
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Jake's power protects him from an array of various situations. People don't register his bad behavior for example. They need to be Superhumans of similar or higher power than him to really understand that their free will has been compromised. They just rationalize everything wihout blaming him.
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I will have to disagree, as an example just before his second evolution he is confronted by Mia questioning his actions, how he is being antagonistic to Mc and his relationship with Ella.
If he passively changes peoples perceptions of his actions he definitly should get free of something like that since she is just human, her free will was definitly not compromised at that point, she only was affected after he decided to use his powers on purpose.
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This isn't a good example because it's explained that Jake's powers work relative to his mindset. That's why he couldn't affect Mia and Jared (in the beginning). Jared in particular kept calling him fat even after his transformation till Jake got control of him. Yet he passively altered the perceptions of the whole college when he was transformed into a Superhuman. Everyone rationalized it as weight loss. Also Jake never actively used his power on MC, yet MC couldn't figure him out despite the overwhelming evidence that he was Ella's pupil.
Jake himself comments on that during the prison scene.
You "Not anymore, fat boy."
scene prison 18 with dissolve
Jake "!!!"
show prison 16 with dissolve
Jake "I see. So, you can now acknowledge what I used to be. Interesting, I implanted that order a long time ago."
Jake "You know, I didn't even do it intentionally. I just woke up one day, and no one even noticed or cared that I was suddenly no longer fat. I could hardly believe it."
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I guess you do have a point, i did remember the weight loss situation and how everyone just accepted it, so definitly an example of "perception alteration" but since it's so harmless i didn't think it was a good example of the initial idea (mindraping by existing) but Mc failing to realize Ella and Jake's link is much better since it could be potentially harmful.
That's also the case when Liz and Amber took off their clothes, Mc only resists if he reaches a certain amount of power so it does have to do with how much a superhuman affected have.
And since the only regular humans i remember resisting his powers are Jared and Mia and both have narrative reasons to that, i agree with you though i wish we had more examples of Jake passive mind control.
Thinking about that he used his power (on purpose) to convince Alexis that it was ok to to show HERO's lab, but when Clark arrived he immediately realized that he shouldn't be there, it's the same if Mc doesn't have enough power during the clothes situation he also doen't see anything wrong. On Alexis case it was something subtle and not really glaring so he can get away with small things, on Mc's case it was obviously lack of power.
Thanks for your insight man.
That's also the case when Liz and Amber took off their clothes, Mc only resists if he reaches a certain amount of power so it does have to do with how much a superhuman affected have.
And since the only regular humans i remember resisting his powers are Jared and Mia and both have narrative reasons to that, i agree with you though i wish we had more examples of Jake passive mind control.
Thinking about that he used his power (on purpose) to convince Alexis that it was ok to to show HERO's lab, but when Clark arrived he immediately realized that he shouldn't be there, it's the same if Mc doesn't have enough power during the clothes situation he also doen't see anything wrong. On Alexis case it was something subtle and not really glaring so he can get away with small things, on Mc's case it was obviously lack of power.
Thanks for your insight man.
I swear to god, this Hexenringe is a walking plot device preventing this story from ending in 2 minutes
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