VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[shujuku]

i'll suck your balls if you figure that out View attachment 4274072

You can suck my heavy hanging balls for free

 

[DannyLucifer]

Which scene? The one on the beach? Because I don't recall any scene between Mia and Jake that is Ella's fault.
Unless you mean everything Jake does is Ella's fault because she made him a superhuman?

Jesus you can't be that naive right?

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I know my fellow basement dwellers are socially inapt but surely by not this much where you can't say you're a fiddle.

 

[shujuku]

Jesus you can't be that naive right?

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I know my fellow basement dwellers are socially inapt but surely by not this much where you can't say you're a fiddle.

Yeah I dont get why people simp so hard for Ella, I literally hate her because she simply uses us as a tool and doesnt give a shit about what happens to us or our close ones.

 

[DannyLucifer]

Also, the MC is ASTRONOMICALLY dumb! My guy goes to the c*nts house, sees the paper with all the names, some of which he recognizes, like Micheal, gets confirmation that yes she has been looking for people to infect, letter finds out from the man that yes ella did give him a pill, saw ella on campus meaning she has access to it, then the massacre happens and MC still cant connect the dots that shes responsible...

 

[DannyLucifer]

Yeah I dont get why people simp so hard for Ella, I literally hate her because she simply uses us as a tool and doesnt give a shit about what happens to us or our close ones.

Yeah, and why are there are forced scenes with her? No I don't want to get a boobjob from a homicidal maniac. Your choices don't matter in the slightest. And FYI I haven't picked a single option to side with her, I even picked up the WT to see what I was doing to get scenes with her and MC completely forgets all the negative opinions, then I realized nah it wasn't my ESL reading comprehension just shit writing. And the thing is I wouldn't even be that mad if I wasn't given the choice to begin with.

 

[wiseold6996]

Should I wait for 0.1? as the saves are going to wiped?

 

[Grimnir098]

Jesus you can't be that naive right?

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I know my fellow basement dwellers are socially inapt but surely by not this much where you can't say you're a fiddle.

Not saying manipulating people is good, but I'm pretty cautious about labelling people evil, and we still don't know what Ella's endgame is. So long as it's a good outcome (edit: i.e. goal), I don't think you can unequivocally call her evil. I generally reserve that for people who have negative goals, like genocide, or neutral goals that they reach through negative means, like serial killing (the goal is pleasure).

There's no reason to think Jake would have fucked up Daryl's brain the way he did Mia. That only happened because of the stress of Mia finding out his secret and deciding to tell the MC.

She didn't use Mia as a hostage, she used her as a bargaining chip. Ella will fix Jake's mistake if Jake does what she wants. She isn't threatening to harm Mia, just to not help her, and she's under no obligation to help Mia.

Also, the MC is ASTRONOMICALLY dumb! My guy goes to the c*nts house, sees the paper with all the names, some of which he recognizes, like Micheal, gets confirmation that yes she has been looking for people to infect, letter finds out from the man that yes ella did give him a pill, saw ella on campus meaning she has access to it, then the massacre happens and MC still cant connect the dots that shes responsible...

The MC isn't dumb, he just doesn't think, which ultimately stems from his apathy. It's not that he can't put the pieces together, he just doesn't feel like it.

 

[Grimnir098]

Should I wait for 0.1? as the saves are going to wiped?

They won't be wiped, but the dev has recommended replaying from the beginning because there will be changes to the stats and new content.

 

[shujuku]

Not saying manipulating people is good, but I'm pretty cautious about labelling people evil, and we still don't know what Ella's endgame is. So long as it's a good outcome, I don't think you can unequivocally call her evil. I generally reserve that for people who have negative goals, like genocide, or neutral goals that they reach through negative means, like serial killing (the goal is pleasure).

There's no reason to think Jake would have fucked up Daryl's brain the way he did Mia. That only happened because of the stress of Mia finding out his secret and deciding to tell the MC.

She didn't use Mia as a hostage, she used her as a bargaining chip. Ella will fix Jake's mistake if Jake does what she wants. She isn't threatening to harm Mia, just to not help her, and she's under no obligation to help Mia.


The MC isn't dumb, he just doesn't think, which ultimately stems from his apathy. It's not that he can't put the pieces together, he just doesn't feel like it.

If you got raped by Tyrone BitchBreaker, would that make him an anti-hero because he prepares you for prison life? Lol he is simply evil don't go beating around the bush.

 

[One_Black_Sun]

SO MUCH READING! View attachment 4273507 I WISH THERE WAS A WAY TO CONNECT RENPLY TO ELEVEN LAB! (i couldn't figure out the one on github)

Two words: git gud.

 

[DannyLucifer]

Not saying manipulating people is good, but I'm pretty cautious about labelling people evil, and we still don't know what Ella's endgame is. So long as it's a good outcome, I don't think you can unequivocally call her evil.

I just can't be bothered... Causing a massacre is a very good outcome. Thanks bro my eyes have been opened

 

[Grimnir098]

If you got raped by Tyrone BitchBreaker, would that make him an anti-hero because he prepares you for prison life? Lol he is simply evil don't go beating around the bush.

Do you feel big poking holes in my wording while ignoring my point, or are you just so stupid you can't understand the very common sentiment I'm expressing?

 

[Grimnir098]

I just can't be bothered... Causing a massacre is a very good outcome. Thanks bro my eyes have been opened

When did I say that?

 

[Gtdead]

It does seem like MC was significantly more compatible with Memory. Ella couldn't become perfect even at level 5, and required a trial at level 3 to become perfect.
The MC, as Ella points out in a dead end, was perfect from the start. He'd already manifested the full trait at level 1.

I think you're overestimating how much compatibility she had with Memory, and thus underestimating how much compatibility she had with Body. We don't actually know how much you need to manifest both traits. Isn't it possible Ella had 10% Memory and 90% Body? That's a significant gap between her and the MC.

That would make Ella purer than the vast majority of the cast, including the Chosen, which goes against her own beliefs and she is the resident expert in compatibility thanks to those eyes. I don't think I'm underestimating her Body compatibility. I think that people haven't internalised this. I'm leaning towards a 70-30 split at best.

 

[Grimnir098]

That would make Ella purer than the vast majority of the cast, including the Chosen, which goes against her own beliefs and she is the resident expert in compatibility thanks to those eyes. I don't think I'm underestimating her Body compatibility. I think that people haven't internalised this. I'm leaning towards a 70-30 split at best.

1. I'm not saying she actually is 90%, I was just asking what you're basing your estimate off.
2a. Where do we find out the compatibility of the cast and the Chosen?
2b. It might not have been you, but I know someone said Valravn has 100% compatibility. In case you're going off his monster report, I'd just like to point out that the "7(100%)" is under "Origin." It seems more likely this refers to his lineage makeup, not how compatible he is with a given Apostle. So Valravn might have, say, 50% compatibility with Darkness, but his Origin will still say 100% because he's Apostlespawn. So if Ella monsterfied, her monster report would say "3(50%), 4(50%)" I think this point is bolstered by Deryl's monster reports. Deryl Tertius has 1-12 (%???) while Deryl Rebis has 12(91%), 3 (6%), and 4 (3%).
Alternatively, this might actually indicate to compatibility, but only because when you monsterfy, the trait completely takes over and modifies your genetics, altering your compatibility.
3. Even a 20% compatibility gap is significant. If her compatibility with Memory is 30% and MC's is 49% at best, that 19%(?) gap still caused a meaningful difference in their ability to use Memory.

 

[mrgreen360]

*hits crackpipe*
How much you guys wanna bet that the ending is gonna be some kind of end of the world scenario in which you gotta choose like who to end it with and shit with Ella knowing this and really manipulating so she get's to stay preferably with the MC, and she's been through these attempts multiple times or some shit and that's like how she knows the MC so well and likes him and shit.

 

[JicioJ]

So the Apostles are separated into twin pairs. Authority and Power, Body and Memory, etc. Each twin pair makes up the Arbiter.
Every Apostle has its twin's trait, albeit much weaker. You see this in the MC's infection scene. He can feel Body trying to get inside his mind, although it requires contact to actually do it. Memory shapeshifts to make her body more appealing.
We also know that only one Apostle was used to infect both Moon twins, and yet they got different powers.

This means that if you get infected by an Apostle and have enough compatibility with its twin's trait, you will manifest that trait. If you have compatibility with a different trait, though, like your Michael example, you won't get that trait, since Power doesn't have Aether.

Body and Memory do want a hybrid, which is why they were satisfied with MC, but he could only become a hybrid because of he was compatible with both Body and Memory.

I understand, I didn't know each apostle has its twin trait, nor that only one apostle infected the Moon Twins, mind if I ask when is this referenced?

 

[DannyLucifer]

So right after the big fight with Jake, the one where Ella sends Jack to Kill MC, after that when Deryl goes coco, MC says he'll ask Ella nonchalantly... Huh!?? What!? What the fuck does that mean Koby Bryant?

 

[SasugaRyzeSama]

Not saying manipulating people is good, but I'm pretty cautious about labelling people evil, and we still don't know what Ella's endgame is. So long as it's a good outcome (edit: i.e. goal), I don't think you can unequivocally call her evil. I generally reserve that for people who have negative goals, like genocide, or neutral goals that they reach through negative means, like serial killing (the goal is pleasure).

There's no reason to think Jake would have fucked up Daryl's brain the way he did Mia. That only happened because of the stress of Mia finding out his secret and deciding to tell the MC.

She didn't use Mia as a hostage, she used her as a bargaining chip. Ella will fix Jake's mistake if Jake does what she wants. She isn't threatening to harm Mia, just to not help her, and she's under no obligation to help Mia.

The goal itself as well as the way of achieving it contributes to the standing of the person. If either is just straight up evil, then you by the very definition cannot be a good person, and being "neutral at best" is very debatable, as traits that can be shown as positive do not contribute to the overall distinction (example: caring, protecting and being loving husband to one's wife, or any person from one's family, does not make one good, an astonishing amount of mafia guys from all around the world are great examples of that). People are complex, have many different parts and angles to them, and one can have good goals and still be fucking evil, just forced to behave ina a way, and vice versa.

We can, tho, look at what a person does when it has a choice, is not forced to anything and make that distinction. If a person does shitty, self-centered, bitchy things to someone else just because, for the power trip, for getting hard over it or any other, then it's evil. Like Ella. She:
- Made people into superhumans that were not able to handle it one way or the other, that then monsterified. That is killing a person over own's self ego. If monsterification is not considered killing, then Jock#2 was killed by her personally. That is evil, straight up. Her not arranging infection of Emily, because she was worried about her pulling through, is not an indication of her being good - if it were, she wouldn't do this shit with someone else.
- Uses people. Like tools. She keeps many with manipulation and lies, she mindfucks into obedience hundreds of monsters (and people) by using other superhuman's powers, has an orphanage for growing useful tools, whose she can dispose of without much fuss if something goes wrong, and when she sees personal gain she does not hesitate to end someone in a flash (see dead end with telling her too much, or being too strong), even if allegedly harboring some positive feelings for them.
- She has a plan, that she works to fulfilling. We do not know what this plan is. But it involves fucking over the world and everyone on it, ensuring somewhere around hundreds of milions casualties at the very best (not all can become superhuman, straight up). And oh so fucking funny thing is - it don't need to work. Ella is not omniscience, she does not know all. Maybe 20 something level fives with a spear made of pure clownium is enough to protect humanity. She does not know, she never reached out to H.E.R.O., or anyone really, to talk this through, going headfirst into what she probably dones't even understand fully, dooming others, even if there are possible better alternatives. Even if she is working for "greater good" (kek), this is evil. Why? She does not check, her ego as the only one that is right. If she would care for common people's lives she would expend even the most basic amount of effort to try something that is less lethal, and she made a choice to do fuck all int that regard.
-She behaves as self-entitled, self-centered, self-absorbed, narcisstic cunt. To everyone she can, or think she can get away with. Power tripping is not a good thing, neither neutral too.

Among many others. in short: Ella is evil.

The MC isn't dumb, he just doesn't think, which ultimately stems from his apathy. It's not that he can't put the pieces together, he just doesn't feel like it.

It is funny concept to me, the evolution rebuilding your body, making it so insanely better. Except the brain, brain is not a part of the body, as evident by MC, or any superhuman really. Level 5's should have supercomputer level computing powers and just about perfect memory judging by how their bodies develop in contrast. Even one level should make average MC excell at school stuff with no effort, but he did not improve in that regard.

 

[JicioJ]

The goal itself as well as the way of achieving it contributes to the standing of the person. If either is just straight up evil, then you by the very definition cannot be a good person, and being "neutral at best" is very debatable, as traits that can be shown as positive do not contribute to the overall distinction (example: caring, protecting and being loving husband to one's wife, or any person from one's family, does not make one good, an astonishing amount of mafia guys from all around the world are great examples of that). People are complex, have many different parts and angles to them, and one can have good goals and still be fucking evil, just forced to behave ina a way, and vice versa.

We can, tho, look at what a person does when it has a choice, is not forced to anything and make that distinction. If a person does shitty, self-centered, bitchy things to someone else just because, for the power trip, for getting hard over it or any other, then it's evil. Like Ella. She:
- Made people into superhumans that were not able to handle it one way or the other, that then monsterified. That is killing a person over own's self ego. If monsterification is not considered killing, then Jock#2 was killed by her personally. That is evil, straight up. Her not arranging infection of Emily, because she was worried about her pulling through, is not an indication of her being good - if it were, she wouldn't do this shit with someone else.
- Uses people. Like tools. She keeps many with manipulation and lies, she mindfucks into obedience hundreds of monsters (and people) by using other superhuman's powers, has an orphanage for growing useful tools, whose she can dispose of without much fuss if something goes wrong, and when she sees personal gain she does not hesitate to end someone in a flash (see dead end with telling her too much, or being too strong), even if allegedly harboring some positive feelings for them.
- She has a plan, that she works to fulfilling. We do not know what this plan is. But it involves fucking over the world and everyone on it, ensuring somewhere around hundreds of milions casualties at the very best (not all can become superhuman, straight up). And oh so fucking funny thing is - it don't need to work. Ella is not omniscience, she does not know all. Maybe 20 something level fives with a spear made of pure clownium is enough to protect humanity. She does not know, she never reached out to H.E.R.O., or anyone really, to talk this through, going headfirst into what she probably dones't even understand fully, dooming others, even if there are possible better alternatives. Even if she is working for "greater good" (kek), this is evil. Why? She does not check, her ego as the only one that is right. If she would care for common people's lives she would expend even the most basic amount of effort to try something that is less lethal, and she made a choice to do fuck all int that regard.
-She behaves as self-entitled, self-centered, self-absorbed, narcisstic cunt. To everyone she can, or think she can get away with. Power tripping is not a good thing, neither neutral too.

Among many others. in short: Ella is evil.


It is funny concept to me, the evolution rebuilding your body, making it so insanely better. Except the brain, brain is not a part of the body, as evident by MC, or any superhuman really. Level 5's should have supercomputer level computing powers and just about perfect memory judging by how their bodies develop in contrast. Even one level should make average MC excell at school stuff with no effort, but he did not improve in that regard.

Ella only infects those who can survive the infection and not straight up die, you can see this when she tries to convert Dave but doesn't follow up as he wouldnt be able to stand it, for jock nº1, Kenny, he actually changes to a Superhuman mostly succesfully until he eats his girlfriend, gets too corrupt and monsterficates, for Jock nº2 its mostly the same, since we know nº2 was infected before Kenny. So it's mostly her misjudging their mental fortitude and not their infection survivavility rate