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Correct me if I am wrong. But I thought Jake power was control, not mind control. He just perceived it that was
Pretty much, Jake ruined the Authority trait and turned it lesser because of his mind set. He's not as strong as he could've been because of his low self esteem and insecurity issues. It's not exactly clear if this change is reversible or not, but pretty much Jake won't actually be as strong in the higher evolutions, if he can't fix it. He likely won't be able to do the things a 1st Spawn should be able to do.

Like Aglaecwif said. A weak mind can ruin the greatest of potential or something like that.
 

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Guys I'm curious which apostles chosen would you say is the rarest
Chosen you mean the ones like Indra, Glae and Valravn? or you mean Apostles Spawn? 'cause we know Glae is the OG chosen of the 10th (GILF/MILF), with Indra being almost as old. While some of them (1th, 5th, 8th, 11th) we know nothing about.
If you're talking about spawns, them Memory and Power would be my guess. Power has insane conditions to even appear in the material world, while mommy is picky as fuck.
 

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Chosen you mean the ones like Indra, Glae and Valravn? or you mean Apostles Spawn? 'cause we know Glae is the OG chosen of the 10th (GILF/MILF), with Indra being almost as old. While some of them (1th, 5th, 8th, 11th) we know nothing about.
If you're talking about spawns, them Memory and Power would be my guess. Power has insane conditions to even appear in the material world, while mommy is picky as fuck.
we can likely assume that the chosen we dont really see were killed by indra/valravn
 
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Chosen you mean the ones like Indra, Glae and Valravn? or you mean Apostles Spawn? 'cause we know Glae is the OG chosen of the 10th (GILF/MILF), with Indra being almost as old. While some of them (1th, 5th, 8th, 11th) we know nothing about.
If you're talking about spawns, them Memory and Power would be my guess. Power has insane conditions to even appear in the material world, while mommy is picky as fuck.
Dark too I say that's pretty rare, we haven't even see anyone apart from Valravn that had inherited the Dark powers. At the most there were some that had some of it but very little.

Light too is rare, especially because apparently it's "dead" as in he can't connect to the material world for now
 

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we can likely assume that the chosen we dont really see were killed by indra/valravn
Yeah, that's what Valravn tells mom: "That fool Indra killed as many as I have", so three each.

Dark too I say that's pretty rare, we haven't even see anyone apart from Valravn that had inherited the Dark powers. At the most there were some that had some of it but very little.
True. I actually had forgot we only have Valravn of the 7th until now. The 8th, Light, isn't THAT rare. We at least got Tiff and Clark, they just need more screentime.
 
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Correct me if I am wrong. But I thought Jake power was control, not mind control. He just perceived it that was
Well, depends what you consider to be control. Authority is control over people, so Jake can't just control the world as he pleases. Order, meanwhile, being the fusion of authority and power, is said to "write the laws that govern the universe", so that would be closer to complete control of everything.

In reality, every apostle's power controls a certain aspect of the world. Authority controls wills, power controls, well, power/energy, body controls the physical, etc.
 

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Yeah, that's what Valravn tells mom: "That fool Indra killed as many as I have", so three each.


True. I actually had forgot we only have Valravn of the 7th until now. The 8th, Light, isn't THAT rare. We at least got Tiff and Clark, they just need more screentime.
Only Tiff is an Apostle Spawn, for what we can assume at least. Clark is definitively not one. Even if he was there were just two people among so many others
 

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Only Tiff is an Apostle Spawn, for what we can assume at least. Clark is definitively not one. Even if he was there were just two people among so many others
Oh, I agree on that. I used Clark because he has a connection to the Light trait, we just don't know how much (such as his lineage and generation).
Thinking about it now, Time also is lacking in showings with only Zacky loops since Deus is a incognita.
 
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Yeah, that's what Valravn tells mom: "That fool Indra killed as many as I have", so three each.


True. I actually had forgot we only have Valravn of the 7th until now. The 8th, Light, isn't THAT rare. We at least got Tiff and Clark, they just need more screentime.
Isn't Minyak part darkness? So Kenny technically? Nyx's powers also seem to fit well with darkness.

I'm sure you'd find Darkness superhumans if you searched well enough, but it is true that they have quite minor roles compared to the rest of the cast.
 

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Oh, I agree on that. I used Clark because he has a connection to the Light trait, we just don't know how much (such as lineage and generation).
Thinking about it now, Time also is lacking in showings with only Zacky loops since Deus is a incognita.
In theory Deus too should be of Time as he was kinda doing the job of Zack while he was incacipated.

Btw, I got why you used Clark but I feel like he's kind of Power/Light and maybe something else. In my original post I said how I was purposefully excluding people who most likely have a percentage, be it small or large, of something.
we haven't even see anyone apart from Valravn that had inherited the Dark powers. At the most there were some that had some of it but very little.
I simply wasn't specific enough
 
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Isn't Minyak part darkness? So Kenny technically? Nyx's powers also seem to fit well with darkness.

I'm sure you'd find Darkness superhumans if you searched well enough, but it is true that they have quite minor roles compared to the rest of the cast.
It's less about the amount of monster with some traits of it, but monster that are directly connected to it. Ex., Minyak has some Dark in it, but it's mainly composed of Body and Authority. As such, its power works more like Authority (controlling biological beings with its oil) and Body (shaping and regenerating itself).

We're talking more about it using the Trait directly. Like, Valravn can teleport through shadows, nullify powers with its miasma, shoot dark matter. Nyx is almost confirmed to have Dark in her (and maybe some Memory). She just needs more showings to confirm it.
 
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In theory Deus too should be of Time as he was kinda doing the job of Zack while he was incacipated.
I thought that too, but nowadays I'm thinking he might have Truth in him (because of the Banshee profile). But yeah, this fucker is just too much of an unknown.

Btw, I got why you used Clark but I feel like he's kind of Power/Light and maybe something else. In my original post I said how I was purposefully excluding people who most likely have a percentage, be it small or large, of something.
No worries brother, I know. We're kind of lacking in "pure" trait showings, there's just a handful.

Technically we saw Claudia, only in a dream tho
Yes, but she didn't use her powers there. Weren't it for the name of the path and its conclusion, we wouldn't even know which powers she had.
 
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Jesus you can't be that naive right?
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I know my fellow basement dwellers are socially inapt but surely by not this much where you can't say you're a fiddle.
How the fuck did Ella cause Mia?

Jake fucked up by getting caught by Mia
Then he fucked up by panicking.
Then he fucked up by using his power on mia
Then he fucked up by botching his use of powers mia due to his panic.
Then he evolved while using his powers on mia
Then he fucked up by losing control over his evolution like a chump.

There is no possible universe in which you can forsee such a chain of fuckups without explicitly having future sight super power.

Also, "I will heal her if you do X" is not hostage.
You are not just magically entitled to someone coming over and healing you.
This is why we pay doctors.
 
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