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Great update, amazing fight with a great antagonist. I hope we see more of Valravn going forward, he and his backstory were actually more important than people (at least in game) give it credit. Hell, stick him in that training module so he and MC can fight it out and MC can learn swordsmanship. I wonder how strong he was at his peak and who wrecked him to where he is now. And where did Deus get his fractured heart to begin with...
Anyway, HERO. Feels like they are being set up for a huge fall later on. In game everyone is fawning over them, the powers are amazing etc etc. But are they, at least when compared to the monsters? I'd argue that no, they are not. Bernhard has gone the elemental route and can control the atmosphere. Amazing, if you're fighting humans or a brick like the mountain monster. Danica's parent might be able to just shear him in half without any wind barrier helping. Nico's parent could just teleport him in vacuum and sodomize him there where he has no air to manipulate. Michael's parent has dominion over energy and might just straight up say "No." to any air being moved.
But even worse for humans is the rate of attrition and replenishment. It takes years and decades for superhumans to reach lvl 5 if they are even capable of it. This is from 20% who are even capable of becoming superhumans. Meaning loss of each high tier operative is a huge, even crippling blow to the entire HERO effort.
Monsters can shit out recruits from apparently anything that passes a certain intelligence threshold, which includes quite a few species that are not human. Now I don't know how strong Valravn was when he was just created, he might have started a scrub and gotten better in the centuries he was alive, but even then the conscript pool is so massively slanted towards the monsters it's not even a contest.
HERO are big fishes in a small pond, like Klaus and his gang were. The operatives are arrogant, the organization believes it can do no wrong. Only Xanthe feels like a man fueled by desperation, like he knows that their time is running out and they need every advantage they can get.
I predict for the next arc or 2 HERO will seem amazing and even unbeatable, with everyone dodging their top agents until something reaps those M-Corp agents like wheat in a bloody harvest and we see what true power looks like.
Anyway, HERO. Feels like they are being set up for a huge fall later on. In game everyone is fawning over them, the powers are amazing etc etc. But are they, at least when compared to the monsters? I'd argue that no, they are not. Bernhard has gone the elemental route and can control the atmosphere. Amazing, if you're fighting humans or a brick like the mountain monster. Danica's parent might be able to just shear him in half without any wind barrier helping. Nico's parent could just teleport him in vacuum and sodomize him there where he has no air to manipulate. Michael's parent has dominion over energy and might just straight up say "No." to any air being moved.
But even worse for humans is the rate of attrition and replenishment. It takes years and decades for superhumans to reach lvl 5 if they are even capable of it. This is from 20% who are even capable of becoming superhumans. Meaning loss of each high tier operative is a huge, even crippling blow to the entire HERO effort.
Monsters can shit out recruits from apparently anything that passes a certain intelligence threshold, which includes quite a few species that are not human. Now I don't know how strong Valravn was when he was just created, he might have started a scrub and gotten better in the centuries he was alive, but even then the conscript pool is so massively slanted towards the monsters it's not even a contest.
HERO are big fishes in a small pond, like Klaus and his gang were. The operatives are arrogant, the organization believes it can do no wrong. Only Xanthe feels like a man fueled by desperation, like he knows that their time is running out and they need every advantage they can get.
I predict for the next arc or 2 HERO will seem amazing and even unbeatable, with everyone dodging their top agents until something reaps those M-Corp agents like wheat in a bloody harvest and we see what true power looks like.
- Jul 13, 2018
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I don't blame her, to be honest. We fucked her up twice. Not only did we spare her after beating her ass the first time, humbling her. The MC stabbed her through her chest again and then fucked her eyes up. Anyone would be peeved about it. People crying about the MC's chest wound when her chest damage was way worse, overall, and she doesn't heal fast. We basically crippled her for months and in another instance, snuffed her out of existence.
Funny thing is she might be talking in your head during the meditation scene with Michael, if you killed her. That was an interesting touch there for those that didn't pick it up if you killed her. The MC hears a memory of her in his head. It's similar to what happened with Jake after you killed him.
But yeah, I agree with you for the most part. I don't see myself as a simp for sparing her though. She's going to be my simp because I made her submit with my "overwhelming power" like I said she would in prison.
I think that is one of my concern. It seems like the original monsters are just preparing humans so that when the time finally comes, they could just humiliate the heroes and make humanity extinct. If the humans can evolve upto lvl 5 then the monsters may have evolution to lvl 10 or something. I think at that level they can decimate the humanity even if there are heroes. One thing I am speculating, that many monsters are infecting humans because being the powerful beings they are they are incapable of propagating their species. Maybe the superhumans if able to cross the lvl 5 barrier may be able to infect other normal humans and give them superpowers thus ensuring the survival of these monster species. I am also wondering if the mosters we are facing are currently just the vanguard and their proper army has still not invaded Earth, waiting for something.
What made you think that was Ella? Yes she mentioned that but she already interacted with Valravn when she released him in the cave and I think he would recognize her if it was her who saved him , in my opinion that was the unknown monster that barely appeared in the game but in the end dead " too strong too fast" something similar happens when the monster that made the MC dies
- Aug 21, 2018
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It wasn't Ella, the monster that give power to the raven said this:
Valravn is not friends with Ella, though.
If they were, why would she have kept him chained up in a mine until she needed him?
Not to mention, Valravn said that he should eat Ella's heart for the inconvenience before setting out to sow chaos.
If they were, why would she have kept him chained up in a mine until she needed him?
Not to mention, Valravn said that he should eat Ella's heart for the inconvenience before setting out to sow chaos.
To continue the cheerleader route pick the Deryl options after class until you instead get "Go to cheerleading practice"
Your first priority should be picking the training options for your power though, at least until you evolve. Those are the most important to survival.
- Aug 30, 2019
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Yep it's all about the Evil Harem, a main focus of this game is porn; regardless if we can avoid it or not. So as much as I LOVE playing the part of doing whatever the fuck I want, and I will. I'm still going to make sure I sleep with every possible female character, and make them join my harem. Considering my route, it would kind of be nice to add some Netori in the game. Or maybe even (though I'm sure this is already planned) some legitimate "fan service" (i.e fans want to fuck the MC) that would be cool.
- Aug 21, 2018
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Meh sure lets go fucking everything that moves maybe ella and the mc can breed i mean evolution and alteration since looks like the s/h are barren. And if we had zombie bailey and snow we are way Beyond depravity
That was it. Just do training and Deryl exclusively
PS: all that effort just to get the option of getting banged next to Tess... sad noises.
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- Aug 30, 2019
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I can't even understand the mumbling that was; your comment. If I translated correctly, you're slut shaming me. I'm indulging on one of the main purposes of this game, fucking. And I'll be damned if I have the freedom to pretty much murder whoever I want, and not be able or want to fuck anything I want when the options are there for me.
And for the record, Superhumans can't procreate as far as we know. Though you may be right, Ella may be different considering we are of the same Monsters.
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No one asked you to be here, go to sleep if it was so boring, maybe don't play.
- Aug 21, 2018
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She is a slut that owns a hearth of gold for her thats an expresión of love we Need superhuman origins : Tess. to know what she wants to fill and why. was she raped? A Jared like asshole trick her into thinking she only is a Easy slut is she just a Nympho ? Answers that lurk in the dark.
I am getting an odd glitch where if I load my save from the middle of dinner with Emily talking about her family where you can tell her to cut them off, I can see the rest of the event but then it jumps to the beginning of the game. Anyone else have this or know why this is happening?
WeirdWorld can you explain to me why your MC is always on the weak end? we are always getting forced into vulnerable positions where we can't do anything but obey the enemy like the organization it feels like your mc is just a dog getting trained there is no control only getting used over and over again. it's really frustrating. isn't your game supposed to be giving us a choice? in the end, it all comes down to death.
I am not saying the monster was the size of mount Everest, I am just giving Everest as a reference so we can start throwing some numbers around. Keep in mind Everest is one mountain, while the mountain range that was shown in-game is, well, a mountain RANGE, so in terms of total mass it could very well be a lot more than Everest. It could also be similar or less, since we don't really know how big the mountain range is, it was never specified for us and its a fictional mountain range. The rock monster was clearly towering over the mountain range and its mass was probably in the same ball park as that mountain range, but idk. Again I am just throwing around numbers here with the purpose of seeing if its within the same order of magnitude or not. Even if the mountain monster has half the mass, or a fourth the mass of the mountain range, the math still holds up, you're still dealing with tens of millions of tonnes of TNT worth of energy to even begin to damage the monster, and that's not even factoring in the fact that the mountain range is obviously not made purely of soil, but of a mixture of unspecified rocks and other materials, while the mountain monster is clearly stated as being TOUGHER than the mountain (meaning for the same mass its going to be able to tank more energy). How much tougher is unclear so again, I set a lower range of energy being comparable to Tzar bomb in order to damage the thing, and an upper range of continental-destruction levels of energy. We really don't know, it's not specified. Look at the Valraven as a clue though, the damn thing has a medieval-style suit of armor which is probably no thicker than a few inches at its thickest point (the breastplate where its heart was) which was able to shrug off tank cannon shots, meaning its got AT LEAST 30inches of rolled steel-equivalent armor (probably more because we dont even see the damn shots leaving a dent in it's armor, if you fired a tank round at 30 inches of rolled steel, it might not penetrate but it would definitely bury itself in the armor to a considerable depth and a follow up shot to the same point would probably penetrate). That armor is already defying physics, either its some unknown mystical alloy of metal like mithril or adamantite or some fantasy shit from wherever the monsters come from that has strength and toughness properties that humans are incapable of reproducing with current technology, or its somehow able to acquire such properties through being enhanced by the monsters powers. We don't know, it's not specified, we just know that the armor is unnaturally tough and strong to a supernatural degree, far outperforming even our best composite materials. If that is any indication of the kind of performance boost monsters are able to achieve then the rock monster is likewise going to be waaaaaay tougher to blow up than a measly mountain range.
When you talk about technology reaching a new pinnacle, it is clearly shown in the setting that humanity has progressed. They have prototype plasma rifles for example, as shown in the fight with Jake, and they have all that other tech developed by Xanthe and his group based on studying superhumans and monsters. Did you see the matrix-like VR set up they had? The containment facilities for monsters? Clearly this is all cutting-edge stuff and developed in secret, hidden from the public. Obviously the first responders to a monster incident are going to be police, who are armed with just handguns and basic small arms, and then the military, who are going to be armed with small arms, infantry fighting vehicles, anti armor weapons, etc. and not experimental black project plasma rifles or other shit.
Remember, the humans in this setting are not that much more advanced than us, we are talking like less than a century. We are already 22 years into the new century and we have not developed anything more destructive than the weapons we had 50 years ago. That is because we are still operating based on the laws of physics, which are slow to advance. A 120mm tank cannon 50 years ago is still going to perform comparably to one produced today, and there is no reason for us to use anything more because that is enough to deal with the threats that tanks are built to handle. Human weapons are built to deal with human enemies, not supernatural monsters with unnatural toughness and destructive power. In terms of the setting, obviously as time passes the human governments will not sit on their hands and will begin trying to develop and implement new weapons, tactics, and technology to counter the monster threats, but they will obviously have limited success because again, if you are operating within the confines of physics its hard to build a gun that can blast apart an enemy that is armored in supernatural materials that DEFY physics and can literally shrug off tank rounds like they're nothing.
And by the way, in terms of power scaling, the valraven is clearly at the top end of second tier evolution or possibly early 3rd tier. The MC is shown to be able to punch above his weight class, depending on the enemy he can even take on someone who is one evo above him, and for him the valraven fight was one of his toughest and really pushed the limits of everything he had. If the valraven did not care about larping as an honorable warrior it probably could have played more dirty and beaten him.
Regarding the FTL travel, I would agree with you if the powers actually obeyed physics, but again they stop obeying physics once you get past evo 4 it seems. FTL does fall under the realm of sci-fi, a lot of settings have it, and it implies that you are not affected by relativistic affects. For example, lets suppose we have a space ship that has an "FTL drive" that works by bringing the ship into "hyper space" where normal physics doesnt apply, or where traveling 1 meter actually lets you travel 1km in real space, so from the standpoint of hyper space its not going ftl, but when it returns to "real space" it has travelled FTL. Now instead of a ship imagine the same effect is being applied to the superhuman. Or else how do you explain Alice even at evo 1 generating singularities that mess with gravity? Do we even know how to affect gravity in real life? No, and neither do the humans in the setting. What about seemingly storing enough mass as energy and converting it freely from energy to mass like the MC does to produce essentially thousands of times his own body mass? That violates physics just as much as FTL does. It's clear these powers are not obeying physics from the very start, and once they reach higher evo's the manifestations of their output also begin to treat physics as merely a suggestion. I don't see anything remarkable about evo 5 superhumans being able to go FTL. Think about the chick who can teleport, she isn't even evo 5, and her power IS FTL by definition, because she can TELEPORT to any place she has seen before. And its not like we are even shown the limits of her powers either, is there a distance limit to how far she can teleport? In one of the dead ends she literally teleports our MC into space, he looks over and sees planet earth off in the distance. That's a distance of thousands of miles. Not even light can travel that distance instantly. It takes 8 minutes for light to go from the sun to the earth, and her power, if she could cover the distance from earth to the sun in one go, would take zero time to cover it.
In real life teleportation violates causality and is impossible as far as we know. Quantum teleportation with individual atoms in a lab setting is possible, but even then its not ftl because they transmit the information from location A to location B at relativistic speeds, so the actual transportation from A to B is not instant but obeys light speed effects. So far as we know there doesnt seem to be any case in nature where information can out-run light speed, yet the teleportation clearly violates this.
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