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Except on my max corruption run I prefer letting him live. He seems like he'll be more useful as a living ally than as a dead enemy.
Part of him also survives inside the MC's head, which might not be good in the long term.
I thought so too until I found out that HERO captured him. No way am I going to let the guys pressganging my character into becoming their mascot control what is hands down the most powerful ability shown so far.
 
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I thought so too until I found out that HERO captured him. No way am I going to let the guys pressganging my character into becoming their mascot control what is hands down the most powerful ability shown so far.
The MC by this point has reached a high level of resistance to his control and he can change his hearing to basically stop his control all at once except for the "retreat" and "pain" stuff, so its far from the most powerful, the MC literally defeated Jake with Daryl impaling him multiple times and he was not with his hearing shut off for a while during that time, so as far as potential goes, the MC has vastly much more to the point where Jakes ability is an annoyance at most to him by this point, and Jake did all that to save Mia, with her safe there is no reason at all for the MC to see him as a threat and Jake himself understood that Ella shapeshifted into the MC to antagonize Jake, so jake has no beef with the MC anymore, plus they probably used some dampening to his power when they captured him.
 

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Rule of thumb for CYOA games, the only thing killing people you can spare gets you, is depriving yourself of content down the road. (a rare exception would be people coming after your character for revenge, but there's like next to no chance for that with Jake)
 

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Rule of thumb for CYOA games, the only thing killing people you can spare gets you, is depriving yourself of content down the road. (a rare exception would be people coming after your character for revenge, but there's like next to no chance for that with Jake)
Good exceptions are also the thugs, the dude that can't have Liz and tries to kidnap her, the dude you can eat during one of Alices missions and the boss that you can kill before giving the father of the girl the money or deliver it yourself, even the scientist while your disguised as the research lady, those kinda of characters are inconsequential and are never remembered after their story ends.
 

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I don't see any downside to killing Jake to be honest. I don't care about romancing Mia and she's healed regardless if he lives or dies so nothing's lost there.

The big thing is we might've actually killed the 1st Numbered in the process with the help of the 3rd and 4th. With Jake alive, the 1st might be as well and we know it's plotting stuff from what it whispered to him before the final fight. That alone makes killing him, the 1st, and possibly those monsters in the tower, worth it for me.

Plus the 3rd and 4th most likely ate the 1st, which increased their power. As the good little greater spawn I am, I got to make sure Mommy 4th is as powerful as possible. That Dead End monster isn't going to kill her again on my watch!
 
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I don't see any downside to killing Jake to be honest. I don't care about romancing Mia and she's healed regardless if he lives or dies so nothing's lost there.

The big thing is we might've actually killed the 1st Numbered in the process with the help of the 3rd and 4th. With Jake alive, the 1st might be as well and we know it's plotting stuff from what it whispered to him before the final fight. That alone makes killing him, the 1st, and possibly those monsters in the tower, worth it for me.

Plus the 3rd and 4th most likely ate the 1st, which increased their power. As the good little greater spawn I am, I got to make sure Mommy 4th is as powerful as possible. That Dead End monster isn't going to kill her again on my watch!
I let him live because im following my main objective, making my harem a reality and as big as possible.
Besides, when we eat the host does the monster itself gets eaten? I don't think it does, the action of eating i believe only replenishes the character power, like when the MC eats a bunch of cows(and in my case the farmer as a side meal). The MC can acquire forms by touching, he doesn't necessarily needs to eat but i understand your point that boosting your power is always good, but i feel like my MC is more technique than power right now even tho i eat 100% of the secondary characters like thugs or the tar lady at the school wich gives me a high nourishment of power, but i guess you're a more power hungry MC, so i understand indeed.
 

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Does killing Jake really lock you out from romancing Mia? Ugh, guess I'll have to go back to an old save next update and spare the bastard.
 

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Does killing Jake really lock you out from romancing Mia? Ugh, guess I'll have to go back to an old save next update and spare the bastard.
You can resurrect him with typing jakeeaten = False in the game console, if you don't feel like going too far back.
 

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I don't see any downside to killing Jake to be honest. I don't care about romancing Mia and she's healed regardless if he lives or dies so nothing's lost there.

The big thing is we might've actually killed the 1st Numbered in the process with the help of the 3rd and 4th. With Jake alive, the 1st might be as well and we know it's plotting stuff from what it whispered to him before the final fight. That alone makes killing him, the 1st, and possibly those monsters in the tower, worth it for me.

Plus the 3rd and 4th most likely ate the 1st, which increased their power. As the good little greater spawn I am, I got to make sure Mommy 4th is as powerful as possible. That Dead End monster isn't going to kill her again on my watch!
Yeah, I get what you're saying, but I just couldn't really kill Jake in my main playthrough, the MC already defeated him while he had a whole ass army and Deryl was trying to kill us too. So if he ever fought us again, which is very unlikely, he'd lose again. He could also be a very useful ally in the future. Although the main reason is because my main playthrough is a harem pure hearted one, so killing Jake would ruin that for what I believe as of right now isn't a very good reason.
 

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Besides, when we eat the host does the monster itself gets eaten? I don't think it does, the action of eating i believe only replenishes the character power, like when the MC eats a bunch of cows(and in my case the farmer as a side meal). The MC can acquire forms by touching, he doesn't necessarily needs to eat but i understand your point that boosting your power is always good, but i feel like my MC is more technique than power right now even tho i eat 100% of the secondary characters like thugs or the tar lady at the school wich gives me a high nourishment of power, but i guess you're a more power hungry MC, so i understand indeed.
What does that have to do with what I said? I said they most likely ate the 1st. The they there is the 3rd and 4th monster. Not the MC lol. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my post.

You didn't see the scene between the MC and the 1st? We entered it's domain after killing Jake and it tried to kill us. Before that happened though, the 3rd and 4th subdued it and we were thrusted out of it.
 

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Yeah, I get what you're saying, but I just couldn't really kill Jake in my main playthrough, the MC already defeated him while he had a whole ass army and Deryl was trying to kill us too. So if he ever fought us again, which is very unlikely, he'd lose again. He could also be a very useful ally in the future. Although the main reason is because my main playthrough is a harem pure hearted one, so killing Jake would ruin that for what I believe as of right now isn't a very good reason.
See, I feel differently. I don't think he's all that useful at all and my main MC isn't pure hearted. Jake's also a potential timebomb since his monster parent would still be alive. Also me not wanting Mia makes it way too easy of a choice because that's the one romance I don't care about in game.

That said, he's alive now on my main because I didn't feel like managing 4 different playthroughs with like 4000+ saves. He'll never live on my Corruption Playthrough.
 

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What does that have to do with what I said? I said they most likely ate the 1st. The they there is the 3rd and 4th monster. Not the MC lol. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my post.

You didn't see the scene between the MC and the 1st? We entered it's domain after killing Jake and it tried to kill us. Before that happened though, the 3rd and 4th subdued it and we were thrusted out of it.
Yeah, i missed the scene there, sorry.
 
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The MC by this point has reached a high level of resistance to his control and he can change his hearing to basically stop his control all at once except for the "retreat" and "pain" stuff, so its far from the most powerful, the MC literally defeated Jake with Daryl impaling him multiple times and he was not with his hearing shut off for a while during that time, so as far as potential goes, the MC has vastly much more to the point where Jakes ability is an annoyance at most to him by this point, and Jake did all that to save Mia, with her safe there is no reason at all for the MC to see him as a threat and Jake himself understood that Ella shapeshifted into the MC to antagonize Jake, so jake has no beef with the MC anymore, plus they probably used some dampening to his power when they captured him.
You bring up some good points, but I wholeheartedly believe that his power's shortcomings are mostly due to Jake being a bad wielder. His power has much more potential than ours, and leaving him with Hero risks him managing to solve some of his behavioral issues, not to mention binding him to the organization. This isn't to mention that despite us being able to resist his ability, any potential allies would be vulnerable to him. In the end, he is a mentally weak person possesing a powerful ability and has already betrayed us once.
 
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I don't see any downside to killing Jake to be honest. I don't care about romancing Mia and she's healed regardless if he lives or dies so nothing's lost there.

The big thing is we might've actually killed the 1st Numbered in the process with the help of the 3rd and 4th. With Jake alive, the 1st might be as well and we know it's plotting stuff from what it whispered to him before the final fight. That alone makes killing him, the 1st, and possibly those monsters in the tower, worth it for me.

Plus the 3rd and 4th most likely ate the 1st, which increased their power. As the good little greater spawn I am, I got to make sure Mommy 4th is as powerful as possible. That Dead End monster isn't going to kill her again on my watch!
Owwww i believed everyone want to eat her by the end because ultimate lifeform and all that. i just do not like she using hivemind to make us do her biding so most likely momma has to go and father too even just for power up we will see down the road
 

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You bring up some good points, but I wholeheartedly believe that it is solely due to Jake being a bad wielder. His power has much more potential than ours, and leaving him with Hero risks him managing to solve some of his behavioral issues, not to mention binding him to the organization. This isn't to mention that despite us being able to resist his ability, any potential allies would be vulnerable to him. In the end, he is a mentally weak person possesing a powerful ability that has already betrayed us once.
Meh looks like the first is just bark and big ego thing and his body is not that powerfull i know 2 v 1 and they regenerate but fuck something does not click.
 

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You bring up some good points, but I wholeheartedly believe that his power's shortcomings are mostly due to Jake being a bad wielder. His power has much more potential than ours, and leaving him with Hero risks him managing to solve some of his behavioral issues, not to mention binding him to the organization. This isn't to mention that despite us being able to resist his ability, any potential allies would be vulnerable to him. In the end, he is a mentally weak person possesing a powerful ability and has already betrayed us once.
All you said makes sense, but potential wise i believe the MC has the most, just like the MC could transform his arm into a Peacock mantis shrimp punch he can easily make a mechanism like a Zombie Parasite that can literally mind control, the MC can over time increase his resistance to all poisons, mind control, etc...
Yes other people are vulnerable to him, to an extent, but even if they are, you can clearly see that by this point Jake knows that it was not Ella talking to him when using his powers on Mia, so by this point he learned not to listen to the voices anymore and the only reason he ever did was because they used Mia as a means of control, but now that Mia is safe i find it hard for him to do anything other than doing his job and going back to his life...
I feel like Jake just like the MC has a mind control resistance, and in Jake's case its a even more powerful one and the only reason he got easily manipulated with Daryl and Mia was because he was still in his first evolution, but i guess we will know for sure in the next update or so.
 
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