VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[RonaldGrand6969]

Spoiler: V. 0.96 Analysis/Experience

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[RonaldGrand6969]

He seems to want us to do the same as Ella but be even better. I feel like next update, we're going to get to inspecting Ella's memories and "corpse". He'll probably give us more stuff to improve our sensory nerves and other parts of our body. We can already turn our bones into diamonds. We're slowly beginning the ultimate lifeform under our own power.

I'm also glad the Dev flat out confirmed power copying isn't on the table for good. The Danica death scene basically said as much in terms of him not being able to hold two powers within himself. But this one flat out said it would only be a negative to him, even if he could.

That's if you believe Xanthe, he doesn't know EVERYTHING. Still mumbling about the existence of Apostles.

It may have been that way with Danica AT THE TIME (Lvl 1), but as we get to 5 WITH Memory Powers and even the Arbiter's favor; we could potentially do stuff the likes of which even Ella isn't able to do.

 

[Belphegor22]

Is there any way to save Laurie if I want monster mommy and go skill?

 

[chikipiki]

Spoiler: Spoiler

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[Virulenz]

Deryl

Thx for the answer and thank myself for not killing her

 

[divertox]

How do I get the dead end of this update?

 

[DrakoGhoul]

That's if you believe Xanthe, he doesn't know EVERYTHING. Still mumbling about the existence of Apostles.

It may have been that way with Danica AT THE TIME (Lvl 1), but as we get to 5 WITH Memory Powers and even the Arbiter's favor; we could potentially do stuff the likes of which even Ella isn't able to do.

Think about this for a single second here, instead of hating on Xanthe and always doubting his knowledge. Why would Xanthe tell the MC he shouldn't pursue it, if it was possible? He would've encouraged it, not persuade the MC not to ruin his own power going around collecting half baked powers and weakening himself. Like, this is Xanthe, the guy who's willing to go far to test out theories and powers. This same guy is telling you, it'll ruin you and you somehow still doubt it anyway?

And after seeing what the Eye did and what it wants, you really believe it's just going to hand the MC the ability to copy powers, even if it was possible, or make monsters give the MC connections to their power? If you still do, I hope you're ready to sacrifice Ella, Alice, Michael and several others for it because that's going to likely be the bare minimum requirement on top of giving your body up.

Let it die already. If this isn't enough to dissuade you guys about this silly ass power copying stuff, I hope he implements it but permanently weakens the MC's stats in the process. We'll see how much you guys love being weak with useless amounts of even weaker powers.

 

[Dvnasty]

anyone know when will the walkthrough get update?

 

[anonwk3]

Is there a change log? I'd like to know wether this a new update or bug squshing one

 

[Dominosaur]

Let it die already.

A lot of people seem hell bent on the "Isekai Protagonist combo platter special." At this point I wonder how many of the refutations i game are weird just world building and how much of it is him saying "Please stop asking about this."

I hope in the next update, MC tries to use electric eel power, and he blows his own arm off. He's already said he doesn't want to try it.

In other news, M vs. T. I think M has the distinct advantage of explicitly having "drain energy" vs someone who was trying to shoot him with lasers. Like, Presence of Apostles in the air besides, This was not a good matchup for T.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

A lot of people seem hell bent on the "Isekai Protagonist combo platter special." At this point I wonder how many of the refutations i game are weird just world building and how much of it is him saying "Please stop asking about this."

I hope in the next update, MC tries to use electric eel power, and he blows his own arm off. He's already said he doesn't want to try it.

In other news, M vs. T. I think M has the distinct advantage of explicitly having "drain energy" vs someone who was trying to shoot him with lasers. Like, Presence of Apostles in the air besides, This was not a good matchup for T.

It's so bizarre to still even want it. The MC is already confirmed to have the most unique abilities in game and has the potential to be the strongest known spawn out of everyone when he reaches his peak, Level 5. You would think people would be happy but they rather have everyone else's power instead of the MC being creative with his own.

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

Think about this for a single second here, instead of hating on Xanthe and always doubting his knowledge. Why would Xanthe tell the MC he shouldn't pursue it, if it was possible? He would've encouraged it, not persuade the MC not to ruin his own power going around collecting half baked powers and weakening himself. Like, this is Xanthe, the guy who's willing to go far to test out theories and powers. This same guy is telling you, it'll ruin you and you somehow still doubt it anyway?

And after seeing what the Eye did and what it wants, you really believe it's just going to hand the MC the ability to copy powers, even if it was possible, or make monsters give the MC connections to their power? If you still do, I hope you're ready to sacrifice Ella, Alice, Michael and several others for it because that's going to likely be the bare minimum requirement on top of giving your body up.

Let it die already. If this isn't enough to dissuade you guys about this silly ass power copying stuff, I hope he implements it but permanently weakens the MC's stats in the process. We'll see how much you guys love being weak with useless amounts of even weaker powers.

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[okokok]

anyone know when will the walkthrough get update?

Usually a day or two after the final version is out

Think about this for a single second here, instead of hating on Xanthe and always doubting his knowledge. Why would Xanthe tell the MC he shouldn't pursue it, if it was possible? He would've encouraged it, not persuade the MC not to ruin his own power going around collecting half baked powers and weakening himself. Like, this is Xanthe, the guy who's willing to go far to test out theories and powers. This same guy is telling you, it'll ruin you and you somehow still doubt it anyway?

Xanthe seems actively disinterested in the spiritual side of monster powers. It's possible he just does not want to waste time on anything he can't replicate in a lab

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

A lot of people seem hell bent on the "Isekai Protagonist combo platter special." At this point I wonder how many of the refutations i game are weird just world building and how much of it is him saying "Please stop asking about this."

I hope in the next update, MC tries to use electric eel power, and he blows his own arm off. He's already said he doesn't want to try it.

In other news, M vs. T. I think M has the distinct advantage of explicitly having "drain energy" vs someone who was trying to shoot him with lasers. Like, Presence of Apostles in the air besides, This was not a good matchup for T.

I didn't know this was a big issue with the community. I wasn't saying I PERSONALLY wanted it to happen, Drako is just in a mood maybe people have been whining to him about it.

I agree though, he SHOULDN'T be able to do it, or at least UNTIL end game, when we'll be so op it wouldn't really matter to begin with.

To the eel and electricity thing though I do wish EVENTUALLY (at a higher Evolution) we can get rid of those weakness. A lot of Superhumans aren't even from an Apostle yet have virtually no real weakness instead just having to be beaten through brute force. The face that Lvl 5 bodies don't need to eat, breath, age, survive the vacuum of space, etc. It would be really stupid if by Lvl 5 we were still fucking allergic to something as mundane as lightning.

The fire and acid or corrosive weaknesss makes sense though cause it's more of an inconvenience than an actual, "Oh I just touched electricity changing a light blub? Guess I'll just die through spontaneous implosion!"

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Calm down all I'm saying is Xanthe's word isn't divine mandate, he can be wrong. He's always been concerned about the LOGICAL side of things, but Superhuman abilities are anything but logical. If we become Level 5 one day and have a deeper understanding of a Superhuman's not just genetic makeup but also their memories, why COULDN'T it be a possibility?

The chances are low sure, but again we are only Lvl 3, and regardless if you have to give up all of your friends to have the possibility through the Arbiter it doesn't deter from the fact that it's a possibility.

It most certainly would probably be a weaker, less refined version compared to the original owners of it was implemented true. But that's what's nice about Lvl 5s, they have nothing BUT time to grow their powers, even more so if it turns out to be true that we can copy eventually. Even if we just took a few passives out of a playbook it strengthen us without having to mastery all the finer details of a new attack or ability.

My hate for Xanthe isn't really hate just distrust. I never said he was stupid, he just doesn't know EVERYTHING, and taking everything that comes out of his mouth as fact will only limit what we could theorize based on other factors. Some of the things I'll always gaslight him on is:
-He doesn't know how to find the primary monster matches for certain Superhuman Genes.
-He can't replicate Ella's pills
-He doesn't even know about the Apostles, instead listing them as an uncategorized class of monster that are RUMORED to be seen by people that have evolved
-He had limited interaction with intelligent (speaking) monsters. We've been at this for a year and have probably had a conversation with more than him

And the list only seems to grow the more I see him. What I do notice is he does CATEGORIZE things, like making up the Levels, Classes of monsters, etc. But anyone can do that. He TESTED on us and gave us rare lifeforms, but again; anyone can fucking do that (given enough resources). His primary feats other than being highly intelligent are:
-Making serums
-Making monster armor and weaponry
-Isolating the Monster gene, or at least figuring out it exists.

I'm not saying he ISN'T smart enough to figure these things out. I'm saying he IS smart enough to figure these things out yet still hasn't over 60 years while others have in less than a decade. Yet people still seem to think he knows EVERYTHING and ALL the possibilities about Superhumans.

I personally wouldn't want the MC to have these abilities unless it was like end game when it doesn't matter anyways. If he gets it, cool, if he doesn't, cool.

I am calm. My point still stands. You're way too eager to doubt Xanthe at every turn when he's trying to tell you that pursuing it will ruin yourself. This very same person has no problem sacrificing people to test shit out and you still, for whatever reason, don't want to listen to him.

You're also conveniently bring up that he doesn't know everything while forgetting that Xanthe is human. He figured this shit out with his own intellect and research. He studied this shit. He didn't get carried by monsters passing knowledge on *cough* Ella *cough*.

At this point, WW will just have to come out and tell you guys straight up that it's not happening for you to drop it. Because clearly him telling you through Xanthe is going out the other side of your ears about it. Same way he said pregnancy isn't going to be a thing with Humans and Superhumans, with only monsters being the exception.

Xanthe seems actively disinterested in the spiritual side of monster powers. It's possible he just does not want to waste time on anything he can't replicate in a lab

Xanthe wouldn't be wasting any of his own time. It would be all on the MC. So my point still stands. He wouldn't try to persuade the MC from doing it himself, if it was possible.

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

Usually a day or two after the final version is out



Xanthe seems actively disinterested in the spiritual side of monster powers. It's possible he just does not want to waste time on anything he can't replicate in a lab

He also actively avoids the solutions to all of his problems. I've never seen a more self destructive scientist in my life. He has no problem experimenting on humans and doing WHATEVER needs to be done to obtain a specimen or material.

Yet when he wonders why a teenager one upped him and the other Captains in info it's almost like most of them have been AVOIDING CORRUPTION, the one thing we know actively links you closer to monster related info.

 

[FrapFappers]

Man I have not been keeping up with the discussion since v0.85.

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

I am calm. My point still stands. You're way too eager to doubt Xanthe at every turn when he's trying to tell you that pursuing it will ruin yourself. This very same person has no problem sacrificing people to test shit out and you still, for whatever reason, don't want to listen to him.

You're also conveniently bring up that he doesn't know everything while forgetting that Xanthe is human. He figured this shit out with his own intellect and research. He studied this shit. He didn't get carried by monsters passing knowledge on *cough* Ella *cough*.

At this point, WW will just have to come out and tell you guys straight up that it's not happening for you to drop it. Because clearly him telling you through Xanthe is going out the other side of your ears about it. Same way he said pregnancy isn't going to be a thing with Humans and Superhumans, with only monsters being the exception.


Xanthe wouldn't be wasting any of his own time. It would be all on the MC. So my point still stands. He wouldn't try to persuade the MC from doing it himself, if it was possible.

I understand it's not EFFICIENT to utilize a billion different powers at once trying to master them all, but again; just because Xanthe says so and experiments on a bunch of people doesn't mean it's not possible.

You're right though, he's only human; which is exactly why he doesn't have all the fucking answers, he still thinks Superhuman confirmed info related to monsters speaking to them and what not is theory just cause he didn't test it on a god damn table himself. There's nothing wrong with that either, but if he wants to be logical I'm gonna take my chances figuring out how my LOGIC DEFYING powers work on my own instead of taking Xanthe's word at face value like it's been confirmed it won't work just cause he said so.

True, he didn't get his info like Ella did (the cheater), but there is someone else (like us) and other Superhumans that know more about monsters and what have you than him because he actively refuses to accept their words as facts. Completely rational, just don't come crying to people when he's suddenly wrong on his limited hypothesis; he's had decades to switch it up.

Xanthe has said it you're right, we can't have pregnancies or mimic powers. Must mean it will NEVER be a possibility down the line cause everyone knows when Xanthe says something, it really means W.W said it (kinda true now that I think about it).

 

[RonaldGrand6969]

Man I have not been keeping up with the discussion since v0.85.

Welcome back, we've been theorizing and there's been an influx of Dogclapping courtesies of ItzSyther

 

[DrakoGhoul]

I understand it's not EFFICIENT to utilize a billion different powers at once trying to master them all, but again; just because Xanthe says so and experiments on a bunch of people doesn't mean it's not possible.

You're right though, he's only human; which is exactly why he doesn't have all the fucking answers, he still thinks Superhuman confirmed info related to monsters speaking to them and what not is theory just cause he didn't test it on a god damn table himself. There's nothing wrong with that either, but if he wants to be logical I'm gonna take my chances figuring out how my LOGIC DEFYING powers work on my own instead of taking Xanthe's word at face value like it's been confirmed it won't work just cause he said so.

True, he didn't get his info like Ella did (the cheater), but there is someone else (like us) and other Superhumans that know more about monsters and what have you than him because he actively refuses to accept their words as facts. Completely rational, just don't come crying to people when he's suddenly wrong on his limited hypothesis; he's had decades to switch it up.

Xanthe has said it you're right, we can't have pregnancies or mimic powers. Must mean it will NEVER be a possibility down the line cause everyone knows when Xanthe says something, it really means W.W said it (kinda true now that I think about it).

Once again, you're way too eager to doubt Xanthe at every single turn. This is the main problem. No matter what it's about, you're ready to disagree automatically. The fact that you don't even realize this is part of the problem. It's not even about him being always right or wrong. It's the fact that he tells you that this will have negative effects but you're against it because he's the one telling you it.

Xanthe could tell you directly that there's negative consequences to an action and you still wouldn't believe him. Even when the negative stuff happens immediately afterwards. You would just point the finger back at him and call him incompetent.