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kibaris

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Premise 1) Ella claims that MC is capable of surpassing her.
Premise 2) An older Level 3 Superhuman is more powerful than a younger level 5 Superhuman
Premise 3) The growth of MC and Jake is exceptionally high compared to someone like Laurie and Danica.
Premise 4) The HERO captain power levels seem to be respective to their age.
Not really more powerful, it's just said "physicaly stronger", with level 4 or 5, they still can improve physicaly but on top of that they can continue to push their power further, not just the body itself and it offer possibility to do things with them that would be impossible if they had stayed at level 3, like Ella told to Duncan. Also, Ella still are a young level 5 and she could easily beat Duncan.


For the growth, yes but it's mostly because they can spam their power easily + Ella help and a lot of training, for Danica, she didn't have any help, nor did she needed to use much her power since he's only usefull for killing and one hit is enough in most case, so she didnt need to train either for her job. When Nico, who isnt apostle spawn reached level 3 as fast as mc because she train a lot and can use her power easily outside of fighting even if,like Danica, she only have to use her power one time to end a fight most of the time.
Danica evolved quickly after mc almost killing her twice,so i wouldnt be surpised if Laurie reached level 3 quickly after being on her feet but i dont see them go further than that.

For Jake, his quick evolution is more due to Ella who babysits him because his power was useful to her, We'll see how he improves without her now.

But like you said, the compatibility play a big role, a good exemple of that is Alice, mc mention several times that she is too strong for someone of her level + she train a lot and go through a lot of shit too, so even if her power isnt usefull outside fighting, she still can evolve and gain power quickly unlike Danica or Laurie.

Personally, I like to compare fast-developing superhumans like mc, Michael or Alice to Shin Seijuro from Eyeshield, geniuses with high compatibility who train hard to surpass their own limits and become the best.^^
 

muschi26

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Jun 22, 2019
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I don’t know how far along I am in this game, so maybe some of this is answered, but I have to know:
  1. Is there going to be pregnancy content?
  2. Is there a way to get back the monster we’re forced to give over to blue-and-yellow guy? I want my tooth monsters in my harem too, God dammit.
  3. Is Danica coming back?
  4. Is there a way to get Bailey to stick around, or did I fuck something up?
 

Dipasimaan

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Feb 22, 2019
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I don’t know how far along I am in this game, so maybe some of this is answered, but I have to know:
  1. Is there going to be pregnancy content?
  2. Is there a way to get back the monster we’re forced to give over to blue-and-yellow guy? I want my tooth monsters in my harem too, God dammit.
  3. Is Danica coming back?
  4. Is there a way to get Bailey to stick around, or did I fuck something up?
1. no
2. no
3. yes
4. for now your best bet is to kill her when she asks you to because she MAY come back but we don't know it for certain
 
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KingAgamemnon

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I don’t know how far along I am in this game, so maybe some of this is answered, but I have to know:
  1. Is there going to be pregnancy content?
  2. Is there a way to get back the monster we’re forced to give over to blue-and-yellow guy? I want my tooth monsters in my harem too, God dammit.
  3. Is Danica coming back?
  4. Is there a way to get Bailey to stick around, or did I fuck something up?
1. It is revealed that the process that turns people into Superhumans alters their DNA so radically that they basically can't reproduce with anyone, barring those monsters that can breed with anyone and everyone. However, it seems that certain people (not naming names because I dunno how far along you are) are working on a potential fix for this, but we don't know much more than that at the moment. Might be an endgame pregnancy sort of situation.
2. No, they're gone. Don't expect them to return.
3. Depends if you killed her or not. If you didn't, she's wandering around H.E.R.O.
4. If you complete her side story and assimilate her, there's a chance we might get something in the future, but don't hold your breath on it.

EDIT: Addendum to point 1 with spoilers:
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FrapFappers

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The mom 100% is a monster descended from The Body. The night time story, the super hearing in the car, the lactation that went on for waaaay too long? It makes sense to me at least. If she is the body then The Mind would have to be the monster that infected MC, perhaps activating his latent monstrous side. This game makes me so fucking pumped about lore which is nuts considering it's a porn game.
You should also considere the things HERO or M-Corp have been doing in changing the human DNA to make them more compatible with surviving infections to be Supers. It would make more sense, along with all the "anime style" hair and eye colors.
 

AtomicAtom2021

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I'm confused on something. I see a lot of people calling the 7th the "Lord of Dark". And while that makes sense, it also doesn't. When we talk to Aglaecwiff, she mentions all the creatures that are referred to as "Gods". She mentions The 12 Apostles, The Great Ocean, The Outer Twins, The 6 Arbiters, AND The Lord of Dark. Did I just interpret that wrong?
 

lorkdubo

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I'm confused on something. I see a lot of people calling the 7th the "Lord of Dark". And while that makes sense, it also doesn't. When we talk to Aglaecwiff, she mentions all the creatures that are referred to as "Gods". She mentions The 12 Apostles, The Great Ocean, The Outer Twins, The 6 Arbiters, AND The Lord of Dark. Did I just interpret that wrong?
This is also what I understand. Aglaecwiff wouldn't mix the two of them, as she is not a random person spouting information.
 

Gtdead

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There is a lot of confusion about the 7th and the Lord of the Dark, but the assumption that they are the same comes from Valravn.
1) Valravn's monster report says that the "Lord of the Dark" took pity on the "dying raven".
2) Valravn is a first generation Variant possessing the pure Dark trait.

So whatever the relationship between the Lord of the Dark and the 7th, the Lord of the Dark is Valravn's "father", is capable of passing down the Dark trait, and since Valravn is 1st gen, Lord of the Dark and the 7th must be linked in a way that makes them pretty much the same. Either through being the same thiing in the first place, or through some other interaction that happened before Valravn turned (being called Apostle Devourer could be a hint).
 

AtomicAtom2021

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There is a lot of confusion about the 7th and the Lord of the Dark, but the assumption that they are the same comes from Valravn.
1) Valravn's monster report says that the "Lord of the Dark" took pity on the "dying raven".
2) Valravn is a first generation Variant possessing the pure Dark trait.

So whatever the relationship between the Lord of the Dark and the 7th, the Lord of the Dark is Valravn's "father", is capable of passing down the Dark trait, and since Valravn is 1st gen, Lord of the Dark and the 7th must be linked in a way that makes them pretty much the same. Either through being the same thiing in the first place, or through some other interaction that happened before Valravn turned (being called Apostle Devourer could be a hint).
See I read that as well which is what's making the whole thing confusing for me. I'm sure it could be some kind of plot hole or whatever, but I find it weird that monsters know who the 7th is but don't know the true identity of The Lord of Dark. I feel like if the 7th was The Apostle Devourer, the other apostles would have done something about him.
 

Gtdead

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See I read that as well which is what's making the whole thing confusing for me. I'm sure it could be some kind of plot hole or whatever, but I find it weird that monsters know who the 7th is but don't know the true identity of The Lord of Dark. I feel like if the 7th was The Apostle Devourer, the other apostles would have done something about him.
Some things to keep in mind:
1) The Lord of the Dark is supposed to be the Apostle Devourer. Not the 7th. According to Aglaecwif, LotD is a higher being.
2) Thus it's a fair theory that the LotD devoured the 7th. Not the other way around.
3) From deadend3 it's fair to conclude that Apostles aren't capable of beating the LotD, at least 1v1.
4) The Apostles are not necessarily friendly to each other, we don't really know exactly how their politics work.
5) Monsters know in principle who the 7th is but they aren't privy to Apostle affairs.
6) The only known monster with the Dark trait and an actual connection to his "lord" is Valravn, and through the dialogue we can deduce that he doesn't have a clue where his lord is and what he is doing.
 

AtomicAtom2021

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Some things to keep in mind:
1) The Lord of the Dark is supposed to be the Apostle Devourer. Not the 7th. According to Aglaecwif, LotD is a higher being.
2) Thus it's a fair theory that the LotD devoured the 7th. Not the other way around.
3) From deadend3 it's fair to conclude that Apostles aren't capable of beating the LotD, at least 1v1.
4) The Apostles are not necessarily friendly to each other, we don't really know exactly how their politics work.
5) Monsters know in principle who the 7th is but they aren't privy to Apostle affairs.
6) The only known monster with the Dark trait and an actual connection to his "lord" is Valravn, and through the dialogue we can deduce that he doesn't have a clue where his lord is and what he is doing.
Ok that does make sense. Now that I look back at it, its said near the beginning of the story that the "later numbers" of the apostles are already dead. That would imply that the 7th is actually dead wouldn't it? Then theres what happened to team Kronos. The Lord of Dark may have already killed the 5th as well, or have the means to easily do so.
 

Dipasimaan

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Some things to keep in mind:
1) The Lord of the Dark is supposed to be the Apostle Devourer. Not the 7th. According to Aglaecwif, LotD is a higher being.
2) Thus it's a fair theory that the LotD devoured the 7th. Not the other way around.
3) From deadend3 it's fair to conclude that Apostles aren't capable of beating the LotD, at least 1v1.
4) The Apostles are not necessarily friendly to each other, we don't really know exactly how their politics work.
5) Monsters know in principle who the 7th is but they aren't privy to Apostle affairs.
6) The only known monster with the Dark trait and an actual connection to his "lord" is Valravn, and through the dialogue we can deduce that he doesn't have a clue where his lord is and what he is doing.
Damn brother, are you sure about the first two points?
 

Gtdead

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Damn brother, are you sure about the first two points?
Reasonably sure.

1) For the Apostle Devourer
Female "Then, there is the Lord of Dark. God Slayer. Apostle Devourer. It is often those originating from the ninth, the tenth and especially the seventh, that worship it, though thankfully I'm not so foolish."
2) For the power ranking, while it's not explicitly stated, there is a certain structure to how Aglaecwif presents these beings.
Apostles are the monsterkind ancestors.
LotD, Ocean and Outer Twins are worshipped as gods, and she thinks that those with any sense worship the Outer Twins, the "true gods" of the bunch.
The oldest monsters that have been around long enough to remember, worship the Arbiters.

She seems to group the entities based on their power, from weakest to strongest. This, along with deadend3 which shows that entity (who is assumed to be LotD) annihilating Memory in an instant, makes it clear that there isn't any comparison between them.

3) As for if the LotD devoured the 7th, we can't really know what happened between them, but if any devouring happened, the reasonable bet is that LotD did it, having the title and all.
 

harem.king

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I can contribute an idea:
A power that can mind hack superhumans and make them believe with all their senses that they can no longer use their powers, believe their bodies get reverted back to the time before they are superhuman, thus render them super ineffective. They are aware that they are being mind hacked, and can try to make their powers work again, but no use. The effects of this power don't last forever, and will subside eventually, but it can make a superhuman near useless in critical moments. Their powers can still work subconciously, they only don't work conciously while under the effect.

The user of this power needs to touch to work the power. In future developments, this user can use the power from a distance. The user calls this power "Nulify power", while they are aware that their power is mind control type, not a real nullify type. In further developements, this user can share that they develop their power based on impressions from their meetings with possessor(s) of real nullify powers.

The nullify power user can become one of the key roles in the plot. MC can have choices: to agree with the nullify user and erase all superpowers and close "monter gates" (the gateways monsters use to come to human world). Or MC can disagree and ruin above plan and keep superpowers and monters in human world.
This is way too specific.
It is basically just jake's power but far far far more limited in scope and can only be used to do one singular sub-thing.
Superhuman powers start out versatile and then just develop new ways to express their power.
 

johnsmith001

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This is way too specific.
It is basically just jake's power but far far far more limited in scope and can only be used to do one singular sub-thing.
Superhuman powers start out versatile and then just develop new ways to express their power.
In my idea, this is used to target superhumans, and the users support pro-human movements, to "normalise" superhumans.
 

harem.king

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In my idea, this is used to target superhumans, and the users support pro-human movements, to "normalise" superhumans.
So what?
I didn't say it was weak or useless, I said that it was too overly specific. And being overly specific made it not fit the pattern of how superhuman powers work.

Additionally, this is literally something jake can already do.
Possibly Demi too if she levels up
 
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