VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[John Doe Jr.]

What are the 5 new scenes?

 

[KingAgamemnon]

Going down this path is a bit of a rabit hole. WW is obviously getting heavy inspiration from religion and folklore. But I really don't think it's a good idea to transfer the attributes of these characters from the various works to this game.

Now we can create a list like that:
Aglaecwif - Chosen of 3rd - Name taken from a demon? troll? not sure what she is, from Beowulf.
Syla - Chosen of 4th - Name taken from a demonic spirit in Arabian folklore.
Valravn - Chosen of 7th - Name taken from a raven in danish mythology.
Eisheth Zenumin - Chosen of 9th - Name taken from a demon in Zorah.
Rebis - Chosen of 12th - It's name means the result of a great alchemical work.

There's also Lochan Deus, which translates to God of the Lake and since he somehow sets MC on his path and "protects" him from deviations, perhaps he is inspired by Nimue (Lady of the Lake)? I can't find any other explanation for his name.




Frankly, SIN care so little about MC that I doubt Tanos has played any important part in MC's past. Perhaps there was some overlap by accident or by circumstance, but probably not enough for that thread to worth the trouble pulling.



1. I get the sense that this 50/50 idea is Memory's project and she designs hers and her brother's spawn based on this. I really don't get the sense that this is a recent development. If Syla is anything like the other Chosen, she may be thousands of years old. The one thing we can say for sure is that finally, the Arbiter has a chance to be reborn after a long time, and Memory is aware that 50/50 spawns have higher "connection", whatever that may be. It feels very.. planned, to me.

2 & 3. I agree that the main assumption is that Ella failed on the Memory trait, but to be capable of failing in the first place, she has to have compatibility with it. So while we don't know Ella's compatibility, I think it's fair to assume that she is supposed to be compatible with it. So like MC, she has to have a significant percentage of compatibility, if not a perfect 50/50, at least something close. After all Syla says that MC isn't a perfect 50/50 but he seems to be the one.

4. This lack of even the smallest example of Ella being capable of using the Memory trait makes this question really hard. The 4th wouldn't accept Ella if her grasp of the Memory trait was weak anyway, at least if Syla is to be believed. MC wasn't good at Memory too, but he was capable of using it to augment his shapeshifting. Ella seemingly had to build her forms from scratch.



You assume that Ella considers herself a failure because she doesn't fit in Memory's plans. This isn't necessary true. Ella wants MC to succeed because he will make "her dreams" come true (deadend2), not Memory's dreams. She also reiterates that she is a failure in deadend3, which is a different outcome of the same scene.

Someone mentioned this earlier, I forget who, but isn't Ella's eyes being able to see the underlying structure of people and how compatible they are with the apostles an example of the Memory trait?

 

[Dipasimaan]

What are the 5 new scenes?

Bailey
Ella
Alice
Claudia
Syla

 

[BassTheFish]

What does that do?

It effectively resets any and all changes made to a save file outside the game such as a save editor or a posted save from anyone, it also makes it practically impossible to load a save that did not originate from the games files, but from upload sites like mega or here.

 

[TerminusPrime]

Someone mentioned this earlier, I forget who, but isn't Ella's eyes being able to see the underlying structure of people and how compatible they are with the apostles an example of the Memory trait?

It's also been stated that Ella has been upgrading her body with monster parts, after she painstakingly learned to copy animal parts. Her eyes are copied from a monster and aren't part of her power. Like the monster heart that Bramon gave MC to copy.

 

[kibaris]

Going down this path is a bit of a rabit hole. WW is obviously getting heavy inspiration from religion and folklore. But I really don't think it's a good idea to transfer the attributes of these characters from the various works to this game.

Now we can create a list like that:
Aglaecwif - Chosen of 3rd - Name taken from a demon? troll? not sure what she is, from Beowulf.
Syla - Chosen of 4th - Name taken from a demonic spirit in Arabian folklore.
Valravn - Chosen of 7th - Name taken from a raven in danish mythology.
Eisheth Zenumin - Chosen of 9th - Name taken from a demon in Zorah.
Rebis - Chosen of 12th - It's name means the result of a great alchemical work.

There's also Lochan Deus, which translates to God of the Lake and since he somehow sets MC on his path and "protects" him from deviations, perhaps he is inspired by Nimue (Lady of the Lake)? I can't find any other explanation for his name.

when i would normaly agree, her name is not the only similarity at all.
A lot of references,like daemon, witch, birthing monster, dark magic. Valravn call her a daemon witch, that lies like she breathe.
She also seduce, an also her usage of ritual and she's linked to dark art like her alter ego.

Mc say about Aglaecwiff that she look like a beautiful woman when in the film, she's a monster and take the form of a beautiful women, also both live in a cave, seduced Beowulf to impregnate her through a pact to replace a lost son like mc can too ,the pact is also similar, Aglaecwiff ask for a son in exchange for the ones dead because of Ella, when the other ask for a son after losing one and promised in exchange to make Beowulf a rich and powerfull king ( and in game we can ask for power and skill), and Valravn said about that pact beeing dangerous and the fruit of that pact "one day come for thee", and Beowulf have to kill the fruit of that pact too, a gold-skinned male who took the form of a dragon.
She's also strongly linked to dark magic just like Aglaecwiff,and of course her name ( Grendel's mother is introduced in lines 1258b to 1259a as: "Grendles modor/ides, aglæcwif". ) ,
( Grendel's mother was an 'aglæc-wif', 'a female warrior' [...] in line 1519 where she is called merewif, defined simply as 'water-woman',
That Change about her just now is odd so personnaly i dont rule out totaly that she could be 10th.
even if like i said 3th is more likely given the shapeshifting part of both her and her son , on that we agree and you definitly have something with the inspiration of chosen , ( Aglaecwiff would be germanic then and it's funy because Beowulf who is her ennemy is danish, when origins of Valravn are also there and he's clearly hostile to her ^^)

I have a bad feeling about MC past...

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Not sure, Tanos is obviously linked to mc because mc'dad take him in Tanos clinic during the time Syla,and i had a little theory about him responsible for Syla not beeing pur enough and losin her place as a chosen but why ignoring mc that much if he was so important for him?

 

[jak1165]

I was very satisfied with how this fight played out. Not only MC used the techniques that I advocated for quite a while (burrowing tentacles to kill Devana, uprooting half the forest to stomp Evander), but his performance against Shen was beyond my imagination. It felt like MC would easily win this fight if Shen was a level 3.

Yeah I was surprised people were like "Why MC get ass kicked"? And Im like....that's how all his fights go. He tanks their offense and learns how they fight and then forms a counter-attack. Just let WW cook

 

[Deleted member 2191783]

In the couple of weeks after Valravn the game slows down a lot. It picks up the pace again when HERO attack the Hexenringe's dimension. If you haven't reached that point, keep playing. If you have reached that point and you still think the writing took a dive, then I doubt that you will continue enjoying this.



There's a good chance MC will share a dream with Danica in the next update when exploring the 11th Apostle. She is the only character we know except Evander, with powers that could possibly fit the trait.

Hey, thanks for replying. It's not that it slowed down, it makes sense to slow down after the climax.
I would say that the game speeds up massive instead of slowing down. There wasn't a lot of build-up before that fight instead we get a simple message saying that a month passed and the fight happens right after the wedding.

But I honestly got my money's worth already, I'm just a bit sad that the ride feels over.

 

[jak1165]

Hey, thanks for replying. It's not that it slowed down, it makes sense to slow down after the climax.
I would say that the game speeds up massive instead of slowing down. There wasn't a lot of build-up before that fight instead we get a simple message saying that a month passed and the fight happens right after the wedding.

But I honestly got my money's worth already, I'm just a bit sad that the ride feels over.

I do agree with this for an extent. The duel vs Birb is, to that point, the highlight of the game and then it loredumps at you very quickly. Weird excels in writing the big set piece battles

 

[Gtdead]

Someone mentioned this earlier, I forget who, but isn't Ella's eyes being able to see the underlying structure of people and how compatible they are with the apostles an example of the Memory trait?

The question is why would that be an example of the Memory trait in the first place. We don't know the mechanics of the ability and we can't map it to anything that MC can do with his Memory powers.

This ability Ella has, is very similar to another that all powerful monsters seem to have, which is to recognize Superhuman lineages. For monsters this seems to me like a sense that monster bodies have, similar to smell, not an ability. Transforming your body to have additional senses is strictly a Body power. I'd need someone to make a really good case for the memory angle before I accept it.

when i would normaly agree, her name is not the only similarity at all.
A lot of references,like daemon, witch, birthing monster, dark magic. Valravn call her a daemon witch, that lies like she breathe.
She also seduce, an also her usage of ritual and she's linked to dark art like her alter ego.

Mc say about Aglaecwiff that she look like a beautiful woman when in the film, she's a monster and take the form of a beautiful women, also both live in a cave, seduced Beowulf to impregnate her through a pact to replace a lost son like mc can too ,the pact is also similar, Aglaecwiff ask for a son in exchange for the ones dead because of Ella, when the other ask for a son after losing one and promised in exchange to make Beowulf a rich and powerfull king ( and in game we can ask for power and skill), and Valravn said about that pact beeing dangerous and the fruit of that pact "one day come for thee", and Beowulf have to kill the fruit of that pact too, a gold-skinned male who took the form of a dragon.
She's also strongly linked to dark magic just like Aglaecwiff,and of course her name ( Grendel's mother is introduced in lines 1258b to 1259a as: "Grendles modor/ides, aglæcwif". ) ,
( Grendel's mother was an 'aglæc-wif', 'a female warrior' [...] in line 1519 where she is called merewif, defined simply as 'water-woman',
That Change about her just now is odd so personnaly i dont rule out totaly that she could be 10th.
even if like i said 3th is more likely given the shapeshifting part of both her and her son , on that we agree and you definitly have something with the inspiration of chosen , ( Aglaecwiff would be germanic then and it's funy because Beowulf who is her ennemy is danish, when origins of Valravn are also there and he's clearly hostile to her ^^)



Not sure, Tanos is obviously linked to mc because mc'dad take him in Tanos clinic during the time Syla,and i had a little theory about him responsible for Syla not beeing pur enough and losin her place as a chosen but why ignoring mc that much if he was so important for him?

I agree, for all intents and purposes, these characters who carry the exact same names, are (conceptually at least) the same that can be found in folklore/religion.
Eisheth has similar attributes. She carries the same surname and title, and her title can explain some of the design choices.
Princess of Qlippoth could be tied to her ability to create domains.
Mother of Estries, Estries being Vampires, could be tied to her creating the line of the the pink demon monsters, especially if they turn out to be called Estries.

However, the link to the Twins and Strength Eaters.. Aglaecwif mentions them in passing and she doesn't seem to subscribe to the idea. Instead she seems like following the Outer Twins. If her water affinity was important to the story, she lost a good chance to showcase it.

Yeah I was surprised people were like "Why MC get ass kicked"? And Im like....that's how all his fights go. He tanks their offense and learns how they fight and then forms a counter-attack. Just let WW cook

I can sympathize with people who disliked MC's performance for a couple of reasons.
1. This has been the loss with the most consequences. Normally, when MC loses, we get a deadend scene and we just pick the right option to continue. This time, Twins were abducted and infected.
2. People think about it based on certain expectations that the game has created and miss the context.
3. While MC's performance was great, he still lost and it doesn't feel good, especially when you expect MC to win most of his fights. Also he barely managed to injure Devana so the SIN party won by a large margin.
4. Considering how "angry" people are at Tanos for the Amber scene, it makes sense that they will also be "angry" at MC for letting it happen in the first place.

 

[kibaris]

1. We know that most apostles want pure spawn and only Body and Memory want 50/50, but from Syla's words it's possible to imagine that this is a recent development, if that's the case maybe they wanted a 50/50 with both traits but Ella never progressed much on her memory, Mc is the first like that because it's supposed to be even more rare than being pure, and because none of the other apostles and even Body and Memory didn't care before.

2. Do we know her compatibility with both traits ? i really can't remember anyone mentioning it before, i mean she clearly is VERY compatible with body but do we know if she is or isn't with memory?

3. Maybe she also is 50/50 or close to that but instead developing both she just strived to body powers, her thinking that she is a feailure could be from realizing that even at her 5 evolution she didnt grow on the memory trait enough.

4. Now that's interesting, in Mc case he had both traits from the start but grew too much on the body side, his father as a pure body and mother almost pure memory so maybe thats the reason. Could also be because while being constantly in danger his powers were forced to depend on body for survival, mind state is also a thing and his will to fight lead to developing body.
In Ella's case we don't really now but it seems like this was both not the plan and a dissapointment to her, Body and Memory.

We have this. (it's when we investigate her room with Christie and Emily after her death)

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Syla isnt "almost" pure but purer than most, but not enough, and with Ella mentionning memory not being her strong suit, so she should have both but 50/50 seem unlikely, Xante also mention that Ella was better with body than mc even when she was level 1, mc was more focus on the body side at first, but even then, he had a lot of difficulties and needed memory to perfectly transform in anyone (like with Amber and Deryl in the begining),
So if Mc is 50/50 (or close), Ella should be more around 70-30 or even 80-20 with how better she is than mc with Body from the start.

 

[Gtdead]

Hey, thanks for replying. It's not that it slowed down, it makes sense to slow down after the climax.
I would say that the game speeds up massive instead of slowing down. There wasn't a lot of build-up before that fight instead we get a simple message saying that a month passed and the fight happens right after the wedding.

But I honestly got my money's worth already, I'm just a bit sad that the ride feels over.

Yeah you are right, I should have phrased that a bit better. I wanted to say that the drama dies down and nothing really interesting happens on the "monster side" or to resolve the various open plotlines. It also didn't really introduce any new plotlines that need to be resolved. SIN introduce themselves, a monster eats the groom and we get some info on fertility and evolutions. However it seems you enjoy the more "slice of life" aspect of the game that MC's time in college supported, so my idea was wrong from the start.

As far as the build up is concerned though, I will have to disagree. At the point where MC fights Valravn, all these plotlines are waiting to be resolved:
1. Deryl's Arc (started when Deryl monsterfied)
2. HERO vs Ella (the first shot was fired when Clark and Alexis failed to get her)
3. The Lord of Dark (Introduced with Valravn in relation to deadend 3)
4. Ella's plan for MC
5. Langdon's efforts to antagonize HERO.

Aside from 3, everything else has been building up for quite some time both in game time and in real time with update frequency. From Jake's defeat to HERO busting Hex's dimension, literally nothing happens to resolve any of the plotlines, despite how quickly the days pass. Even that fight managed to resolve 2 of othe 5, and introduced a myriad more.

I personally think that things don't happen quickly enough. Even at this pace it will be hard to resolve all open plotlines in a reasonable time frame, moreso if MC goes back to doing 1 thing per week and spending the rest of the time building relationships and doing unrelated slice of life stuff.

 

[Ddlc]

We have this. (it's when we investigate her room with Christie and Emily after her death)

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Syla isnt "almost" pure but purer than most, but not enough, and with Ella mentionning memory not being her strong suit, so she should have both but 50/50 seem unlikely, Xante also mention that Ella was better with body than mc even when she was level 1, mc was more focus on the body side at first, but even then, he had a lot of difficulties and needed memory to perfectly transform in anyone (like with Amber and Deryl in the begining),
So if Mc is 50/50 (or close), Ella should be more around 70-30 or even 80-20 with how better she is than mc with Body from the start.

I remember that line, i interpreted that as Ella talking about monster infection, Mc's body being as compatible as hers meaning the ability to handle the infection and surviving it, while being worried about his mind means the risk of monsterfication during the process.
This is what the context meant to me at the time (they were talking about monster infection) but maybe we can recontextualize to compatibility to body and memory traits though i'm still not sure if it's really the case .

 

[kibaris]

I remember that line, i interpreted that as Ella talking about monster infection, Mc's body being as compatible as hers meaning the ability to handle the infection and surviving it, while being worried about his mind means the risk of monsterfication during the process.
This is what the context meant to me at the time (they were talking about monster infection) but maybe we can recontextualize to compatibility to body and memory traits though i'm still not sure if it's really the case .

Now that i think of it, Ella and mc are the two only superhuman beeing refered as Chosen (if i remember correcly), so her beeing a failure could be related to not kiling christie and

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She was destined to much more but failed by not taking Christie life, and now she cant do it herself and Mc became her best hope to achieving her plan.
But if Ella was 50/50, she should be good with memory... and she dont have any reason to lie about that, and she's level 5 so she had time to perfect her usage of both trait unlike mc who's only level 3.

 

[bloodaxis]

Honest question, remind me why we think aglaecwif is a spawn of the fourth?

Because I was looking through the dialouge for the section with her, and things don't quite add up for me.

So, the section I remembered being pointed to for the hinted at connection says, as of the latest version:

(If spawn of the fourth)
label ellainvmonster4:
Aglaecwif: "Swa þú eart offspring of þæs fēowerðan ēac? Hm, how mysterious... "
chatgpt translation: "You are the descendant of the fourth ancestor? Hm, how mysterious..."

(If spawn of the third)
label ellainvmonster3:
Aglaecwif "Eart þū ofspring þæs priddan ēac? Thy grēata hlāford traveleth far and wide, nis hit swilce?"
chatgpt translation: "Are you offspring of the third also? Your great lord travels far and wide, is it not so?"

Now, none of this seems to suggest a direct connection between aglaecwif and the fourth, but I could obviously be mistaken or missing something.

With that in mind I went searching through the backlog of posts and hit on an earlier discussion about this particular section, and noticed something curious.


Notice the changes in what aglaecwif/"Female" says here.

Assuming this is a direct quote from the code/game from that time, it would seem like the dialogue was altered in subsequent updates to change the meaning of what aglaecwif says.

Thoughts?

"ēac" directly translated seems to mean also, so it seems chatgpt just fucked up the first translation.

 

[estrada777]

It effectively resets any and all changes made to a save file outside the game such as a save editor or a posted save from anyone, it also makes it practically impossible to load a save that did not originate from the games files, but from upload sites like mega or here.

And why would one want that?

 

[Deleted member 6943714]

Hi,
Updated my Android Port to 0.975
https://f95zone.to/threads/superhuman-v0-975-weirdworld.74436/post-12157605

0.976?

 

[CainKova]

This game have NTR route or just "NTR" options? I can share the LI in the love route?

 

[Dipasimaan]

This game have NTR route or just "NTR" options? I can share the LI in the love route?

This game at the moment has only an avoidable NTR route with a single LI that later in the game after some events you can share but there's not really a lot of scenes as this game focus more on other things and mostly the story

In essence, if you are here just for NTR then go elsewhere, though if you want a really good game with a solid story and fun and exciting sex scenes stay and enjoy

 

[jak1165]

This game have NTR route or just "NTR" options? I can share the LI in the love route?

Depends on how much of a psychopath you are about NTR

There are people on this site who'd consider the threescore between MC, Deryl, and Cheerleader ntr