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Incest is illegal in alabama and carries a prison sentence.
The notion that all alabaman's are incestous inbred hicks is gaslighting by holliwood over political differences.
As alabama is the most devoutly christian state in the USA. Which triggers holliwood types hard.
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Thanks for keeping the guide updated! Just wanted you to know that the pdf still says "version 0.971" at the beginning.
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Honest question, remind me why we think aglaecwif is a spawn of the fourth?
Because I was looking through the dialouge for the section with her, and things don't quite add up for me.
So, the section I remembered being pointed to for the hinted at connection says, as of the latest version:
(If spawn of the fourth)
label ellainvmonster4:
Aglaecwif: "Swa þú eart offspring of þæs fēowerðan ēac? Hm, how mysterious... "
chatgpt translation: "You are the descendant of the fourth ancestor? Hm, how mysterious..."
(If spawn of the third)
label ellainvmonster3:
Aglaecwif "Eart þū ofspring þæs priddan ēac? Thy grēata hlāford traveleth far and wide, nis hit swilce?"
chatgpt translation: "Are you offspring of the third also? Your great lord travels far and wide, is it not so?"
Now, none of this seems to suggest a direct connection between aglaecwif and the fourth, but I could obviously be mistaken or missing something.
With that in mind I went searching through the backlog of posts and hit on an earlier discussion about this particular section, and noticed something curious.
Assuming this is a direct quote from the code/game from that time, it would seem like the dialogue was altered in subsequent updates to change the meaning of what aglaecwif says.
Thoughts?
Because I was looking through the dialouge for the section with her, and things don't quite add up for me.
So, the section I remembered being pointed to for the hinted at connection says, as of the latest version:
(If spawn of the fourth)
label ellainvmonster4:
Aglaecwif: "Swa þú eart offspring of þæs fēowerðan ēac? Hm, how mysterious... "
chatgpt translation: "You are the descendant of the fourth ancestor? Hm, how mysterious..."
(If spawn of the third)
label ellainvmonster3:
Aglaecwif "Eart þū ofspring þæs priddan ēac? Thy grēata hlāford traveleth far and wide, nis hit swilce?"
chatgpt translation: "Are you offspring of the third also? Your great lord travels far and wide, is it not so?"
Now, none of this seems to suggest a direct connection between aglaecwif and the fourth, but I could obviously be mistaken or missing something.
With that in mind I went searching through the backlog of posts and hit on an earlier discussion about this particular section, and noticed something curious.
Notice the changes in what aglaecwif/"Female" says here.
Assuming this is a direct quote from the code/game from that time, it would seem like the dialogue was altered in subsequent updates to change the meaning of what aglaecwif says.
Thoughts?
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IIRC, another reason people thought Aglaecwif was of the 4th's lineage was that her English got significantly better after the MC had sex with her, indicating she could read people's memories like the MC can.
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Really interesting and maybe that you'r right !
i searched a little and she is directly inspired by Grendel's mother in Beowulf poem, a lot of references,like daemon, witch, birthing monster, dark magic, she also live in a cave , Beowulf can impregnate her like mc ,the pact is also similar since she ask for a son after losing one in exchange of making him a rich and powerfull king ( and in game we can ask for power and skill) and Valravn hint about that pact beeing dangerous and that the fruit of that pact "one day come for thee", and Beowulf have to kill the fruit of that pact too, a gold-skinned male who took the form of a dragon.
But it's true that she probably chosen of the 3th and not the 4th because in the film adaptation, she can take the form of a beautiful nude woman,and her son the form of a dragon and Shapeshifting is 3th trait, but her talking a better english after fucking mc suggest a memory trait too. ( but both 3th and 4th can use each other trait )
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Yeah the apostles can, not the monsters or superhumans, not if they aren't of dual traits but Aglaecwif surely isn't.
It's more probable that she is of the 4th lineage instead of the 3rd's for various reasons as the dialogues that more than one posted above, the fact that she talks more modern english after staying in contact with the MC and the fact that at the moment of her appereance it was hinted that she just "materialized" herself out of thin air, like some sort of memory form like others already theorized
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monster and superhuman can, Mc can, Ella can, and that monster looking like Syla can
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What if she's not from either lineage?
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This is my old attempt to translate the text with chatgpt.
It seems that this has been changed. Because now Aglaecwif says:
Good catch myst0501
Edit:
This is a recent change which happened in 0.975. I still have the 0.971 on my PC and checked the script
It seems that this has been changed. Because now Aglaecwif says:
Good catch myst0501
Edit:
This is a recent change which happened in 0.975. I still have the 0.971 on my PC and checked the script
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I like your theory, and it could be a real possibility, i made a similar one but with Christie the 9th and her obsession for truth with Ella and the saint artorius massacre ^^
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No they normally can't. Like I said at the first phrase, if they haven't dual traits like the MC or Deus possibly normally a superhuman can only use his monster parent's powers. Obviously there are some inconsistencies as, if the monster parent has percentage of memory body and dark even if in little parts it's obvious that if someone concentrate hard enough could theoretically utilize both traits and possibly more but it's so nigh-impossible that noone ever tried and even if they did it's not like having dual traits or 50/50 of twins traits. I'm sorry if it's not extremely well-written or explained but right now I can't do it better.
Also Ella can't use both of Memory and Body traits as she was infected by the 3rd and she wasn't compatible with the 4th trait so she could never use it. What you implicated in your post about aglaecwif possibly having both traits couldn't be possible as for monsters it isn't exactly possible as as we know to have both traits divided in 50/50
I admit that I have not a good counterargument for the strenght eater but I guess that it has a good portion of both but not exactly half of both
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Since the last update, I think we have to rethink our theories about Ella and how dual trait spawn work.
- Ella knows who MC is, who his parents are, and what his compatibility is.
- Ella says that MC is just like her.
- Ella considers herself a failure.
- During the Body dream she says that memory is not "her strong suit" so it leaves a possibility that she is actually capable of using it a bit.
So what I think is happening here is that Ella is supposed to be a half & half and just happened to be turned by Body, either by chance or circumstance. She just never managed to develop her Memory trait because she is a "failure", despite having a compatibility with it, and this is also why Memory is so active in her life.
With the new knowledge, a lot of the ideas we had about Apostlespawns are not correct. MC for example is not 100% compatible to both traits, he is a half & half. We also learned that Apostles in general prefer high purity spawns, while the Evolution Twins prefer strict half & half. So we need to start answering these questions:
1. Why would Ella care about using the memory trait? No other Apostle spawn (except MC) was ever capable of using the twin trait
2. Why would Ella consider herself a failure if she only had compatibility to Body?
3. Why Memory is so interested in Ella if she is supposed to have Body compatibility? Does she actually have high Body compatibility?
4. Why did she fail to manifest Memory powers?
I don't have developed the new theory enough to give answers, but I think the good old "Ella is the spawn of the 3rd and that's that" is not correct.
- Ella knows who MC is, who his parents are, and what his compatibility is.
- Ella says that MC is just like her.
- Ella considers herself a failure.
- During the Body dream she says that memory is not "her strong suit" so it leaves a possibility that she is actually capable of using it a bit.
So what I think is happening here is that Ella is supposed to be a half & half and just happened to be turned by Body, either by chance or circumstance. She just never managed to develop her Memory trait because she is a "failure", despite having a compatibility with it, and this is also why Memory is so active in her life.
With the new knowledge, a lot of the ideas we had about Apostlespawns are not correct. MC for example is not 100% compatible to both traits, he is a half & half. We also learned that Apostles in general prefer high purity spawns, while the Evolution Twins prefer strict half & half. So we need to start answering these questions:
1. Why would Ella care about using the memory trait? No other Apostle spawn (except MC) was ever capable of using the twin trait
2. Why would Ella consider herself a failure if she only had compatibility to Body?
3. Why Memory is so interested in Ella if she is supposed to have Body compatibility? Does she actually have high Body compatibility?
4. Why did she fail to manifest Memory powers?
I don't have developed the new theory enough to give answers, but I think the good old "Ella is the spawn of the 3rd and that's that" is not correct.
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I think you are just sad that MC is forced to bow to H.E.R.O. for the time being, because the lore is only getting better.
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Ella said that she can help mc with memory but isnt her strong suit, so maybe she can but not as well a she should?.
All other superhuman and monster linked to 4th or 3th could use both so far and in this last update Ella hint that she possibly can too.
For Aglaegwiff , i learned that her source of inspiration is strongly linked to water " Grendel's mother has always been associated with the water and may well have been based on an ancient Slavic water-goddess or spirit. ", and with Aglaecwiff change being made during the twin arc and their monster being strenght eater, a fish linked to the great ocean + Liz and Amber affinity to water, maybe myst isnt that far with is random theory about Aglaecwiff and 10th ^^
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1. We know that most apostles want pure spawn and only Body and Memory want 50/50, but from Syla's words it's possible to imagine that this is a recent development, if that's the case maybe they wanted a 50/50 with both traits but Ella never progressed much on her memory, Mc is the first like that because it's supposed to be even more rare than being pure, and because none of the other apostles and even Body and Memory didn't care before.
2. Do we know her compatibility with both traits ? i really can't remember anyone mentioning it before, i mean she clearly is VERY compatible with body but do we know if she is or isn't with memory?
3. Maybe she also is 50/50 or close to that but instead developing both she just strived to body powers, her thinking that she is a feailure could be from realizing that even at her 5 evolution she didnt grow on the memory trait enough.
4. Now that's interesting, in Mc case he had both traits from the start but grew too much on the body side, his father as a pure body and mother almost pure memory so maybe thats the reason. Could also be because while being constantly in danger his powers were forced to depend on body for survival, mind state is also a thing and his will to fight lead to developing body.
In Ella's case we don't really now but it seems like this was both not the plan and a dissapointment to her, Body and Memory.