VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[KingAgamemnon]

Since we are talking about Ella, I wanted to tackle her earlier shenanigans.

The common theory is that Ella wants an exceptionally strong Superhuman who fits certain criteria for something.
This something has to do with a ritual, the Apostles and a plan to make the world a better place.

The problems:
1. While MC and Jake fit a certain profile, being Apostlespawns and potential inheritors of the Origin Powers, Kenny, James do not. However she calls them chosen.
2. While she says during the 33th training event that she doesn't want to kill MC, during Kenny's massacre she is a bit apprehensive that MC will be the "one".
3. During an early training event, if you mention Memory powers, she seemingly kills MC.

At this point, I want to believe that WeirdWorld hasn't made a mistake and there is a reason why these things happen. So I'm not going to deny reality, I'm just going to put it into perspective and find the missing context.

Could it be that the whole Apostlespawn situation threw us off the scent?
Could it be that MC and Jake are not important due to their Apostlespawn status, but due to some other reason?

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Considering her relationship with Memory, even though I believe that her plan is different from that of Memory's Arbiterspawn plan, there still needs to be a commonality between the two, otherwise neither one of them would be happy with us. So whatever plan Ella has, an important facet that needs to be considered is how well it ties into Memory's Arbiterspawn plan.

 

[JmTrad]

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Thank you guys for sharing your interesting theories regarding ELLA.

Best hint from Ddlc : just rest easy in knowing that everyone is as clueless as you are

Indeed now I´m looking forward feeling reassured

We know a little, and you will too the more you read. Day 40 is still very in the beginning, is after Alice getting her powers and you are training with her if i remember well. Protect my waifu.

 

[kibaris]

I'm not sure I really care for the idea that power is something to be used like a resource for his transformations. I feel like its more accurately a maximum for the "transformative power" of the MC, for lack of a better term. It's like the higher his power is, the greater control and depth of his ability to use his traits. I see his life force as a sort of ray of light and his traits as colored glass that shifts the light in whatever ways he can manipulate the glasses. With each evolution, a new shine and chink and bend can be found in the glasses that expand their applications, and the intensity of light goes up tremendously.

Now the metaphor kinda breaks down a bit, but adopting the traits of others would kind of be like using the glasses to create a "pseudo-glass structure" that emulates another person's trait. Except this trait would be made out of the light (life force) filtered through his original traits. So it likely will lack the intensity and adaptability of the true trait as it is unwieldy and can't be orientated as easily, but it's a decent enough approximation for brute force things. Maybe a perfect level 5 evolution trait would allow something more complex to occur, but that's how I see things atm.

Except that it's already explained in game that it is.

Ella "Seems making metal is a little too much for you. What a shame."
You "*pant* It's worse than forming my armor."
Ella "You don't have enough MP, that's all."
You "MP? What? Like Magic Points? From video games?"
Ella "No...? Well, maybe. I don't really know what you're talking about."
Ella "By MP, I mean Monster Power. Alternatively, Monster Energy. It's what fuels our abilities."
You "What happens when we run out? We become just abnormally strong humans?
Ella "No, we die, generally. Our power is closely linked to our lifeforce, we even generate it in similar ways."
Ella "Eating food, drinking, sleeping, that's how we recover our power. Much like how those things recover a normal human's lifeforce, it's basically the same thing."

also this :

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And when mc run out of energy he cant regenerate, like during his fights against Deryl.

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[Fanvor]

On telepathy:
Any chance you can outline the telepathy idea for me? I must have missed it. I could see it for MC communicating with his tails, or Kenny communicating with his zombies, but these ideas feel iffy. When I think of telepathy, characters like Kiri and Shen come to mind. MC and Kenny are way too restricted in comparison.

We definitely know that Ella doesn't care if her "Chosen One" is smart or strong (a strong one is better), we know this because Deryl was immediately denied the title, despite, potentially, being able to prove his strength in combat against us and Jake, and being the smartest guy we know. As such it is safe to say that Ella cares about her chosen having a special type of power, or at least being able to develop it down the line with evolution.
The opinion that the special ability is stealing memories and others powers is just dumb, the only reason it is even considered a possibility is because of a power fantasy.
Of the four potential "Chosen Ones" the only thing they had in common, that i noticed, was the affinity to telepathy.
- The two jocks were both sons of the big tidy snake lady, who we know can use it to communicate with her minions, and to speak to us during the "Fight of the Titans".
- Jake can literally control others minds, it is not that big of a stretch that he will learn how to speak to them that way (probably his 3rd evo, since it would mean he no longer gets fucked by people in headphones).
- MC might not have telepathy per se, but mind reading can be used as a shitty one way laggy form of it (someone thinks something, MC reads the latest memory and hears the thought).

This leaves the question of why the fuck does Ella care, and why can't she just use the Miniyak or any other monster for the job. The reason monsters don't fit might be because none of them would do the thing she wants (might be considered heresy to them), or because all of the telepaths are members of the faction that is hostile towards her. The reason she cares, is that she wants someone to talk to the stone creature that she is collecting, it might be that that thing is one of the gods and she wants an audience with it, or because there is some form of monster "Collective (un)conscious" that she wants to enter (I think that whole meeting with the First one after we kill Jake was inside of one).

I wrote this before Michael got his powers, so don't be too harsh on it.

 

[Gtdead]

I wrote this before Michael got his powers, so don't be too harsh on it.

It's a good theory and I don't see anything past Michael's infection that shuts it down. Needing something that interacts with the stones is as good idea as any. I can't find any way to support it at this point as there is absolutely no info on what they do. I may have a theory in the works about them but it's too imcomplete to share.

The problem with theories is that we have to fit them in the data we have available. It's why I developed the fertility theory in the first place.
We need to identify a problem that Ella would care about, find potential solutions and map these solutions to her actions.

I'm usually after bits of info that feel deliberately out of place. For example the Minyak monster report (that you so kindly posted, thanks for these by the way), mentions the Orang Minyak predicament, along with a passing reference to male inheritors of the Oil trait being rare/special.

Taking a more "meta" approach on this, WW is a single dev who had to create the mythology mostly from scratch, as some monster backgrounds aren't exact fits with the folklore creatures he got inspiration from. He can't possibly have time to develop a comprehensive background, complete with various trivia, for each monster in the setting. He probably has to partially develop it around the Chekov's gun principle.

Some examples:
When I look at the Valravn monster report, I see a lot of information that explains his actions in the game. One interesting bit of info that I get from his report is that WW encloses the Lord of Dark in quotation marks. It feels there is some akwardness going on with that character and I wonder why.

When I look at the Minyak monster report, other than a passing reference to the strength of the oil ability, the main theme is the Orang Minyak's situation. So I wonder "does WW try to tells us something with this?".

 

[Hairydoggie]

I get this issue when I try starting the game on joiplay

 

[Gtdead]

I get this issue when I try starting the game on joiplay View attachment 3388846

I've never used Joiplay but this looks like a version problem because "allow_underfull" is in fact a keyword for the vpgrid statement. However I have no idea how the Joiplay ecosystem works. If it's possible to update it or update something related to renpy specifically, then do so.

Otherwise you can attempt to delete the game/gallery.rpy and game/gallery.rpyc files (back them up first).
You will get an error if you ever try to access the gallery but you should be able to play the game.

 

[thatoneguy543w745387]

Whelp, since everyones guessing...

I think the reason the MC is the 'chosen' along with a few other dudes, is that Ella wants the One thing super humans cant have.
A child. I think she is looking for a special super-human that can bring in a special super-human monster baby into the world. Just my two cents. I think it would make sense considering this is erotica.

 

[Hairydoggie]

I've never used Joiplay but this looks like a version problem because "allow_underfull" is in fact a keyword for the vpgrid statement. However I have no idea how the Joiplay ecosystem works. If it's possible to update it or update something related to renpy specifically, then do so.

Otherwise you can attempt to delete the game/gallery.rpy and game/gallery.rpyc files (back them up first).
You will get an error if you ever try to access the gallery but you should be able to play the game.

Thanks that approach worked

 

[xetalon]

I have little question, it is worth it to eat Bailey ?

 

[Gtdead]

I have little question, it is worth it to eat Bailey ?

It seems to be the best outcome for her and the only way to get her new scene.

 

[xetalon]

Thanks for the information ! I must say I had some doubts bevause of how weird and dark it seems. But that's also the thing of this game.

 

[Mustang1998]

this is Akame ga Kill mixed with X men, I love it

 

[Lord Kentus]

this is Akame ga Kill mixed with X men, I love it

It's a weird franchise where the anime original ending tops the manga, hopefully the ending of this game is better.

 

[deadh30775n]

What seems to be the best option to choose?

The shopkeeper is offering me one of the above 3 items for making a devilery for Charlie.
The mask is a joke option and the horn gives us 10 power points.
What does the eye gets us? And which option should I choose?

 

[SomeDrunk]

What do you all think she meant, before what?

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[Kazenaraka]

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What seems to be the best option to choose?

The shopkeeper is offering me one of the above 3 items for making a devilery for Charlie.
The mask is a joke option and the horn gives us 10 power points.
What does the eye gets us? And which option should I choose?

Horn is the better options for the simple fact that it gaves you 10 power point straight out of the bag

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[JmTrad]

What do you all think she meant, before what?

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Maybe in the end of the game the MC will cut his hair bangs. He will look different enough lol.

View attachment 3392641
What seems to be the best option to choose?

The shopkeeper is offering me one of the above 3 items for making a devilery for Charlie.
The mask is a joke option and the horn gives us 10 power points.
What does the eye gets us? And which option should I choose?

The eye is something for a future character. You can get 2 rewards with it instead of 1. If you need power, is best to pick horn.
The rewards is more focused about the lore. Even if you read them using save and load, the game will remember if you choose any of them. Because you will use the same questions you choose to ask to another character later to double check the information so you can take your own conclusions about the 2 points of view. I used a cheat to unlock them in this part because it's interesting to read.

 

[deadh30775n]

Also is there any importance to money in this game? All I can buy are sex toys and gadgets that mc never uses.
I think I did a mistake on choosing money over power by the options given by Tiffany

 

[JmTrad]

Also is there any importance to money in this game? All I can buy are sex toys and gadgets that mc never uses.
I think I did a mistake on choosing money over power by the options given by Tiffany

Tiffany power reward in my opinion is not worth. It comes too late in a time you don't need to pass power check anymore. After a certain event the merchant will sell new items that are worth to buy.