VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

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Simpgor said:
Is there anywhere in game that could straighten out the "an/the" arbiter for me? From what i recall it was more of "the" than "an", is there somewhere where the combination of apostles are called an arbiter(s)? Aglaecwif mentions order but doesnt say "the arbiter of order" (iirc) but maybe since MC specifically asked "whats the greatest power" her saying "order" and not the arbiter of orders powers is still right?
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Aglaecwif refers to the eldest monster praying for the return of the "Arbiters", plural. But it is true that the idea that "Order" is the name of an Arbiter instead of just being a power is speculation. The idea stems from a combination of Aglaecwif's statement on "Order" being the greatest power, and certain recurring words that appear when the MC connects to each pair of Apostles.

Authority + Power: Order
Body + Memory: Evolution
Time + Ether : Infinity
Darkness + Light : Soul
Truth + Fantasy: Paradox
Destruction + Creation : Chaos

So we speculate that there's six Arbiters in total, one for each pair of Apostles. We also think that the eye that overtakes the MC is the Arbiter of Evolution.
 
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KKStrider said:
Aglaecwif refers to the eldest monster praying for the return of the "Arbiters", plural. But it is true that the idea that "Order" is the name of an Arbiter instead of just being a power is speculation. The idea stems from a combination of Aglaecwif's statement on "Order" being the greatest power, and certain recurring words that appear when the MC connects to each pair of Apostles.

Authority + Power: Order
Body + Memory: Evolution
Time + Ether : Infinity
Darkness + Light : Soul
Truth + Fantasy: Paradox
Destruction + Creation : Chaos

So we speculate that there's six Arbiters in total, one for each pair of Apostles. We also think that the eye that overtakes the MC is the Arbiter of Evolution.
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Thanks I figured I just wasn't remembering a single line of dialog :KEK:, I knew what the 6 were called just wasnt sure if they had been given a "group name", I still feel like the eyes attitude is weird during the battle if they were the arbiter of evolution for reasons previously stated and if the eye is "just" an arbiter would they really be "above" all? Despite them knowing that they "came" from a group of 12 and that six is still divisible by two? Not to mention the whatever the outer twins are? Them claiming that could just be the eye being cocky but it never really came off that way to me, also a seemingly unrelated apostle (7th) is showing more interest in MC than the 3rd and 4th combined does the eye know? shouldnt the eye be able to tell "something" in mc is making the 7th literally reach out and pull him "back into the dream"? (after the "i am gods darkness" scene)
 
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Dinoflaggelate said:
From what I remember, the evidence is that it's much worse than the moon being a monster. Instead, it's probably housing a portal that the Twelve Apostles are going to use to manifest in a more enduring way than their avatar bodies. The MC receives a vision during his first evolution trance of tendrils connecting the moon to the earth and the knowledge that "they" will come down from the moon. That's implicitly the Apostles because he says that only one through six will be coming, seven through twelve are already...something that we don't know, his vision gets cut off by Klaus attacking him.

We've also got mention of some upcoming event called the "Black Moon". When the MC touches the goop from the Third Apostle that he found in Ella's old school, he gets a vision of the Third telling him to prepare for the Black Moon's coming. We've also got Valravn's conversation with Syla, where he says that he and Ella have been making their own opposing preparations for the Black Moon. Presumably the Black Moon is the time when the Apostles use the moon to make their entrance into the world. Which means it would be so much worse than just fighting a monster the size of the moon, these things are full-on gods. Dealing with them manifesting is probably going to be the entire end game.
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Then this make me feel like we need a long training arc or try to get the fuck out of dodge and just live in space they can have earth because gods are can only be killed by other gods really and even then that's iffy since they can exist through faith and belief
 
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INquiop said:
Then this make me feel like we need a long training arc or try to get the fuck out of dodge and just live in space they can have earth because gods are can only be killed by other gods really and even then that's iffy since they can exist through faith and belief
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they arent those kind of "gods" they are where are the other monsters came from after all, they are not powered nor exist through things believing in them they are just very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very powerful monsters/beings :HideThePain:
 
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Simpgor said:
they arent those kind of "gods" they are where are the other monsters came from after all, they are not powered nor exist through things believing in them they are just very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very powerful monsters/beings :HideThePain:
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But with the reveal of the other world the power of believing is not out of the picture cause if a noob of this otherworld like us can influence a no name SIN agent whose to say one these gods won't have the power to do so as well or one of them may have power that make us fight each other just by existing in the same space as them in that point in time plus some of these powers may branch into to insane levels since we seen the laws of physics out the window long ago
 
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INquiop said:
But with the reveal of the other world the power of believing is not out of the picture cause if a noob of this otherworld like us can influence a no name SIN agent whose to say one these gods won't have the power to do so as well or one of them may have power that make us fight each other just by existing in the same space as them in that point in time plus some of these powers may branch into to insane levels since we seen the laws of physics out the window long ago
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I mean the Arbiters are just better versions of them? So they unquestionably are not the top of the food chain. In fact we know that order (power + authority) is required to do stuff like "make us just fight each other". (On a large world destorying scale) Like I said they are stupendously powerful but they are still "living beings" (once they come to earth). Unless a big plot twist comes out of nowhere they are coming and unless WW just says "and then everyone fucking died lmao" the story will grow past them.
 
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Tahxeol said:
Of course not. The Shopkeeper said it itself, it isn't a monster or a superhuman, or anything like that. Or are you doubting the prophetic being who sell mythical items that turn into pipe bombs when opened by someone else than the buyer
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Well the apostles and arbiters aren't monsters and superhumans either but I get your point.
 
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Dipasimaan said:
For now we just have this preview of today that I just posted. We remain with the high possibility that it will release end june/early july
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When we got a teaser for (green eyed girl who was talking to shopkeep) the update dropped like between 1-2 weeks later? :unsure: could be mid/late June if similar
 
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Simpgor said:
When we got a teaser for (green eyed girl who was talking to shopkeep) the update dropped like between 1-2 weeks later? :unsure: could be mid/late June if similar
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Most probably late june but you gotta get down those expectations so as to not kill yourself when the update doesn't drop
 
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