VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[lorkdubo]

I'm just at the party after MC gets exposed on the news and have a quick question:

I'm on Amber's romance route but Liz's friend route (i had sex with her all the time, just turned her down during her final event) and I didn't get the threesome at the party or even any non-sexual interaction with Amber or Liz.

I'm ok with missing out a sex scene or two (that's what the gallery's for) but out of curiosity does this lock me out of future Amber or Liz content entirely? Can I still do the Amber/Liz route if I'm only romancing one of them?

It does cut you out off content. You need both of them for the twin throuple.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

I'm just at the party after MC gets exposed on the news and have a quick question:

I'm on Amber's romance route but Liz's friend route (i had sex with her all the time, just turned her down during her final event) and I didn't get the threesome at the party or even any non-sexual interaction with Amber or Liz.

I'm ok with missing out a sex scene or two (that's what the gallery's for) but out of curiosity does this lock me out of future Amber or Liz content entirely? Can I still do the Amber/Liz route if I'm only romancing one of them?

You won't miss much. Sex scenes aside, I vaguely recall that there's one scene where he's a bit more openly affectionate with them if he's dating both than if he's dating just one (or neither), but that's it. Otherwise you're fine.

 

[OnlyUsedForNever]

It does cut you out off content. You need both of them for the twin throuple.

You won't miss much. Sex scenes aside, I vaguely recall that there's one scene where he's a bit more openly affectionate with them if he's dating both than if he's dating just one (or neither), but that's it. Otherwise you're fine.

Okay, thanks for the clarification. I'm ok missing the throuple sex scenes, as long as there's still story events for them. I got concerned since there was nothing at all at at the party.

Kind of a bummer you can't later jump into the straight up throuple path if you're dating just one of them and friends with the other though, esp since Amber's route kinda implies she just wants you to be friends with Liz for it to happen, not dating her.

 

[weezal]

MC says that trying electric transformations is problematic. However this isn't the same as protecting himself from electricity.
1. Against Klaus we've seen him cut off limbs struck with tasers.
2. Against Hydra Deryl we've seen that when his flesh explodes, it actually causes damage to the surroundings so Met isn't necessarily safe in melee.
3. Against Jake we've seen that electricity increases his regeneration and his resistance to various effects.

4. Met holds his charge inside him for physical boosts. If he starts shooting, he will lose strength and mobility. MC is very good at protecting himself against projectiles, he can just sacrifice basic tentacles, he doesn't even need his heavy duty tails.
5. Without seeing it, we can't know what will happen if MC and Met engage into trading melee blows. It's possible that electricity boosted regeneration and the blowback from explosions will allow MC to trade more efficiently.
6. The last interaction is Met's heavy attacks, like his dragon form. If that's enough to erase MC, then Met wins, if not, again it depends on the efficiency of trading blows, going back to 5.

So while I think that Met has a good match up here, there are multiple ways this fight can be hard for him. If MC's weakness directly translates to inefficient trading in melee, then MC loses. But based on his track record, this weakness to electricity is far more complex than what meets the eye.

PS.
- These reasons are why there exists a long running theory that electricity is actually a blessing in disguise for MC.
- Zack stops MC from fighting with Met because "attempting to regenerate will expose him". So at the very least, it seems that even while holding back for the infiltration, MC is actually capable of at least surviving his attacks.

yeah I’ve always suspected that MC isn’t actually weak to lightning. That it actually boosts his abilities but he just doesn’t know how to channel it. Considering the power crawl style of the game, MC is bound to overcome this “weakness” at some point so I can see him finally channeling it.

 

[Ddlc]

yeah I’ve always suspected that MC isn’t actually weak to lightning. That it actually boosts his abilities but he just doesn’t know how to channel it. Considering the power crawl style of the game, MC is bound to overcome this “weakness” at some point so I can see him finally channeling it.

It seems eletricity makes his cells multiply whitout control and then his body explodes, so by itself eletricity helps his regeneration and transformation, the real problem is that he can't stop the process. During his first evolution he was tazed but resisted the effect, according to his words it was a power out of his control because it was not his own power, my view is that with his increased power poll that amount of eletricity was just safely absorbed, i find it very relevant how Mc's power manifests as black lightning, i don't think i'ts for no reason, after all he did get in control of eletricity before safely and used to his advantage.

 

[Deleted member 7530943]

Man, cut MC some slack, you just don't know his pain, or you want me to prove his pain?
Fine!

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[Knight]

yeah I’ve always suspected that MC isn’t actually weak to lightning. That it actually boosts his abilities but he just doesn’t know how to channel it. Considering the power crawl style of the game, MC is bound to overcome this “weakness” at some point so I can see him finally channeling it.

Technically he can already overcome it the plot just choose not to let him do so. Since he can copy animals down to individual organs and even glands, he can just copy the energy storage matrix of a electric eel or catfish, combine it with high magnesium nerve spikes (or some other organic compatible conductive salt) to act as lighting guides and then just absorb the shock then distribute the energy or release it back in to the environment.

TBH, just with the power he has in the early game he was already borderline invincible with proper application. Given his regenerative and metabolic capacity combined with shape shifting he can just make a gland that produces nerve gas while making himself immune to the effect, which is a kill shot to most everyone he's fought so far who don't have powers that neutralize that.

 

[sexoffended]

Technically he can already overcome it the plot just choose not to let him do so. Since he can copy animals down to individual organs and even glands, he can just copy the energy storage matrix of a electric eel or catfish, combine it with high magnesium nerve spikes (or some other organic compatible conductive salt) to act as lighting guides and then just absorb the shock then distribute the energy or release it back in to the environment.

TBH, just with the power he has in the early game he was already borderline invincible with proper application. Given his regenerative and metabolic capacity combined with shape shifting he can just make a gland that produces nerve gas while making himself immune to the effect, which is a kill shot to most everyone he's fought so far who don't have powers that neutralize that.

Don't forget that MC is incapable of making small changes like deliberately growing a nerve or a blood vessel because his power works by instinct.

 

[Knight]

Don't forget that MC is incapable of making small changes like deliberately growing a nerve or a blood vessel because his power works by instinct.

He can make tendrils that produce jellyfish toxin, he used it against his first fight with Ella. Which means he can combine his own workings with specific glands or organs; it's not a single nerve or blood vessel, it's a systemic change.

Also, he can alter the chemical makeup of his skin and bodily extensions to a pretty specific degree (sword arms just as an example), making tendrils lined with organic conductors to act as lighting rods then just have an electric energy storage matrix (electric eels power comes from modified muscle) somewhere on his body is something he can do; he's done much more complex mix and matching and none of that is a micro level change.
And that's all it would take to neutralize 99% of electrical attacks.

 

[Knight]

Because as he explains, the material he uses doesn't matter. Metal, plastic, the result is always the same. Once electricity touches him, he explodes.

That is kryptonite levels of plot convenience and bad writing.

 

[Sayajin2205]

That is kryptonite levels of plot convenience and bad writing.

Unlike kryptonite tho electricity I really think will help mc in the future.Electricity rn feels like a fuel which mc just can't control.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

He can make tendrils that produce jellyfish toxin, he used it against his first fight with Ella. Which means he can combine his own workings with specific glands or organs; it's not a single nerve or blood vessel, it's a systemic change.

Also, he can alter the chemical makeup of his skin and bodily extensions to a pretty specific degree (sword arms just as an example), making tendrils lined with organic conductors to act as lighting rods then just have an electric energy storage matrix (electric eels power comes from modified muscle) somewhere on his body; he's done much more complex mix and matching and none of that is a micro level change.
And that's all it would take to neutralize 99% of electrical attacks.

It should work against small discharges like tasers, but I'm doubtful of its effect on the big lightning blasts we see. An electric eel's electricity tops out around six hundred volts and one ampere. Lightning is three hundred million volts and thirty thousand amperes. It's way more than an electric organ is designed to deal with, it would overload and burn and then the rest of the electricity would function as it normally does for the MC.

I think a better option, now that he can copy monster anatomy, is to see if he can get anything useful from the corpse of one of those lightning monsters that Michael fought. Electricity is that thing's power, but it also had a bunch of anatomical features to help channel it, focusing crystals and energy-storage goo. And unlike the eel, they're designed to handle massive discharges. Hooks those up to some lightning rod growths, and then we're talking.

 

[Sayajin2205]

It should work against small discharges like tasers, but I'm doubtful of its effect on the big lightning blasts we see. An electric eel's electricity tops out around six hundred volts and one ampere. Lightning is three hundred million volts and thirty thousand amperes. It's way more than an electric organ is designed to deal with, it would overload and burn and then the rest of the electricity would function as it normally does for the MC.

I think a better option, now that he can copy monster anatomy, is to see if he can get anything useful from the corpse of one of those lightning monsters that Michael fought. Electricity is that thing's power, but it also had a bunch of anatomical features to help channel it, focusing crystals and energy-storage goo. And unlike the eel, they're designed to handle massive discharges. Hooks those up to some lightning rod growths, and then we're talking.

The problem with that can be MC's base form might reject it and his body would turn back the changes to normal.When mc got the monster heart from Xanthe he also changed other organs but all of the other organs changed back because only the heart was suitable.I might be missing some info tho but that's all I remember.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

The problem with that can be MC's base form might reject it and his body would turn back the changes to normal.When mc got the monster heart from Xanthe his also changed other organs but all of the other organs changed back because only the heart was suitable.I might be missing some info tho but that's all I remember.

Yeah, he probably couldn't integrate it into his base form, at least not yet. I was thinking of it as an addition to his armor. Something mostly external, so he doesn't have to worry about his organs rejecting it.

 

[lorkdubo]

Yeah, he probably couldn't integrate it into his base form, at least not yet. I was thinking of it as an addition to his armor. Something mostly external, so he doesn't have to worry about his organs rejecting it.

He could easily make a faraday cage with his skin or armor. Now, I don't know the levels of volts we are talking about, so the materials involved and the difficulty, I guess, would vary a lot.
Actually, any kind of extremophile ADN material would be overkill for MC.

 

[weezal]

It seems eletricity makes his cells multiply whitout control and then his body explodes, so by itself eletricity helps his regeneration and transformation, the real problem is that he can't stop the process. During his first evolution he was tazed but resisted the effect, according to his words it was a power out of his control because it was not his own power, my view is that with his increased power poll that amount of eletricity was just safely absorbed, i find it very relevant how Mc's power manifests as black lightning, i don't think i'ts for no reason, after all he did get in control of eletricity before safely and used to his advantage.

I forgot about the black lightning. MC definitely has something going on with the electricity

 

[KKStrider]

That is kryptonite levels of plot convenience and bad writing.

The in-universe logic is at least consistent. All of the things the MC uses, from his armour and weapons to his clothing, are technically a part of his weird supernatural body, and thus respond to its weaknesses no matter what form its been turned into. Anything he wears or uses will dissolve unless integrated into another source of energy to feed it, like another person's body.

It may be a plot convenience, but I wouldn't call it bad writing. It's not even entirely a weakness for the MC. Aside from it being shown that he can take more and more as he grows in power and evolves, by the time he was a peak Level 2 he'd already learned to weaponize it, violently detonating one of Chimera Tertius' heads by letting the electricity it was spewing react with a harpoon he'd launched.

 

[Gtdead]

That is kryptonite levels of plot convenience and bad writing.

Perhaps but at least it's consistent and the writer doesn't abuse it in his story telling. Beating MC is almost never about electricity.

 

[camube]

i just read the walkthrough, how much different is it between Public Hero playthrough and Public Enemy playthrough?

is it just some different flavor texts here and there, and sparsely at that, or do we get branching events between the two?

 

[Zeca Suez]

Aim dodging is a thing

Like Mr. Miyagi said... best way to not get hit "No be there" .

The in-universe logic is at least consistent. All of the things the MC uses, from his armour and weapons to his clothing, are technically a part of his weird supernatural body, and thus respond to its weaknesses no matter what form its been turned into.

Ya I was going to point out this same thing. Anything created from the MC's body will have all the properties of the target object but at its Core it will still stay connected to the MC and be a part of him. It comes more from the magic part of the monster abilities rather than the science part.
So no matter what he creates to insulate himself against electricity as long as it was produced from his own body it will react to the energy and explode. even if its a golden Lightening rod or a Giant Block of Dense Wood/Asbestos around his whole body.

I was also trying to think of a solution to this same issue months ago fearing we might have to face Met someday. Eels, rays or jellyfish were no help. But I also am all for MC going around absorbing Exotic Monster corpses, a little bit of corruption can't be that bad. The Lightening monster's crystals did look like they could be a useful.

Unlike kryptonite tho electricity I really think will help mc in the future.Electricity rn feels like a fuel which mc just can't control.

I also suspect the solution to the problem of electricity is MC having greater control over his body so he can in a way have absolute command over his cellular structure dominate the smallest part of his being and force it to retain its shape even while being bombarded with energy ... absorb the energy like a little bio battery so it can be reused by the MC or at the very least redirected with minimal damage.

The way electricity makes MC's cells expand and explode reminds me of how the Alien goo reacted to heat in that old "Evolution" movie. Sudden explosive growth.