VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[OnlineRando]

The way I see it, he doesn't need to dodge. He can just block them by keeping some tentacles between him and Met, the same way he did against Evander (although Evander could actually mow through the tentacles thanks to his power). So unless Met is such a good marksman that can consistently shoot through small gaps against a moving target, or his lightning spear is capable of penetrating multiple obstacles, chances are that he will have huge trouble landing even one.

Met will need to constantly reposition himself and shoot from blindspots, but since he has to hold the charge inside him to boost his physical attributes, I'm not sure if that's possible or sustainable past 1-2 attempts. It will leave him vulnerable and MC can adapt by just making more eyes.

PS. I just remembered that Met has an additional way to fight at range. The one that he constantly warns the others that "letting his charge inside them was a mistake". I'm not sure exactly what's up with that. I'll give it a second look.

I wouldn't put it past Met to be a great marksman, considering he was trained from childhood like Micheal and was a mercenary, but I don't know if he's good enough to do what you said. Regardless, I don't think he has to put all his energy into every single one of his bolts, or if he did, he can just attack melee, the electricity should still affect MC, although at lower potency over a larger amount of time, with possibly more precision.

Also I wouldn't be surprised that Met is much stronger physically than MC usually is, considering almost every physically inclined superhuman is, even if their body doesn't have to do much with their body *cough* *cough* Alice *cough*

 

[Gtdead]

I wouldn't put it past Met to be a great marksman, considering he was trained from childhood like Micheal and was a mercenary, but I don't know if he's good enough to do what you said. Regardless, I don't think he has to put all his energy into every single one of his bolts, or if he did, he can just attack melee, the electricity should still affect MC, although at lower potency over a larger amount of time, with possibly more precision.

Also I wouldn't be surprised that Met is much stronger physically than MC usually is, considering almost every physically inclined superhuman is, even if their body doesn't have to do much with their body *cough* *cough* Alice *cough*

Yeah, which goes back to the trading argument. Tbh, normally I wouldn't expect MC to be able to trade efficiently with Met. Even if MC has become significantly better at melee combat he still has much to learn and Met is both a great warrior and his whole body can be used for defense as long as electricity runs through it.

If it wasn't for electricity boosting his regeneration I wouldn't really entertain this. Considering how much this weakness has been teased though.. I really expect the interactions to be fully counterintuitive.

 

[Sayajin2205]

Also I wouldn't be surprised that Met is much stronger physically than MC usually is, considering almost every physically inclined superhuman is, even if their body doesn't have to do much with their body *cough* *cough* Alice *cough*

That's true for base mc form but with the amount of enhancements mc gets through his transformations it isn't true.

 

[Sayajin2205]

Yeah, which goes back to the trading argument. Tbh, normally I wouldn't expect MC to be able to trade efficiently with Met. Even if MC has become significantly better at melee combat he still has much to learn and Met is both a great warrior and his whole body can be used for defense as long as electricity runs through it.

If it wasn't for electricity boosting his regeneration I wouldn't really entertain this. Considering how much this weakness to electricity has been teased though.. I really expect the interactions to be fully counterintuitive.

I really think in future the electricity would somehow unlock more potential for future like if I remember correctly the electricity destabilized mc cells and the cells started growing before the burst right. Electricity really might do something good for mc in the future lol.

 

[Gtdead]

That's true for base mc form but with the amount of enhancements mc gets through his transformations it isn't true.

Normally I'd agree with that, the problem is that even if MC can use his best enhancements, every material he makes reacts the same way, be it heavy armor of plain flesh.. Add to it that Met is an energy Superhuman, which means that he should be physically gifted, and the smart money bet on Met being the tougher of the two, at least for this particular instance.

I really think in future the electricity would somehow unlock more potential for future like if I remember correctly the electricity destabilized mc cells and the cells started growing before the burst right. Electricity really might do something good for mc in the future lol.

Yeah that's the general sentiment. This growth that MC experiences when struck with electricity seems like a great way to support bigger transformations and faster regeneration using the Eel transformation as the "engine".

In any case, I think that this weakness is relevant to his Seahuman heritage and not really something related to his powers. It may be overwhelming for now, but eventually he will figure out some way to use it for his benefit.

 

[Sayajin2205]

Normally I'd agree with that, the problem is that even if MC can use his best enhancements, every material he makes reacts the same way, be it heavy armor of plain flesh..

No no I didn't mean winning against Met I am talking about met being physically stronger that was what the other guy was talking about not about the fight just physical ability.

 

[OnlineRando]

Normally I'd agree with that, the problem is that even if MC can use his best enhancements, every material he makes reacts the same way, be it heavy armor of plain flesh.. Add to it that Met is an energy Superhuman, which means that he should be physically gifted, and the smart money bet on Met being the tougher of the two, at least for this particular instance.



Yeah that's the general sentiment. This growth that MC experiences when struck with electricity seems like a great way to support bigger transformations and faster regeneration using the Eel transformation as the "engine".

In any case, I think that this weakness is relevant to his Seahuman heritage and not really something related to his powers. It may be overwhelming for now, but eventually he will figure out some way to use it for his benefit.

Uhh seahuman? What?

 

[Sayajin2205]

Uhh seahuman? What?

MC's mom Syla is most likely a sea human

 

[Gtdead]

No no I didn't mean winning against Met I am talking about met being physically stronger that was what the other guy was talking about not about the fight just physical ability.

Perhaps. One thing to note is that we don't know how much MC can empower the materials he is using.

Superhuman bodies get naturally stronger magically. It's not just flesh anymore, it's monster energy. Is there a breakoff point where no material can possibly be stronger than a superhuman body? Can MC take any material and boost it with his energy to create something far stronger than the sum of it's parts or he is limited to his flesh, which is weaker due to his monster line?

The Eye deadend tells us that it's possible, but still it uses normal materials compressed to extreme levels, not empowered with energy.

 

[OnlineRando]

MC's mom Syla is most likely a sea human

The hell is a sea human? did I miss a mini-update or something?

 

[Gtdead]

Uhh seahuman? What?

If you visit the Vestige with Henri, it tells MC that he is the last of them. This vestige is of the Seahuman race probably, because it accepts the seahuman vertebrae MC offers and can even provide the full memory of what happened. It also mentions their great king which is a figure from Seahuman memories.

This along with some indications about Syla make it likely that they are Seahumans.

Seahumans and Skyhumans are introduced with the memories from the Shopkeep items. We still don't know much about them. I had a post summarising these memories, I'll edit with a link.

Edit: https://f95zone.to/threads/superhuman-v0-982-weirdworld.74436/post-11371537

 

[OnlineRando]

If you visit the Vestige with Henri, it tells MC that he is the last of them. This vestige is of the Seahuman race probably, because it accepts the seahuman vertebrae MC offers and can even provide the full memory of what happened.

This along with some indications about Syla make it likely that they are Seahumans.

Seahumans and Skyhumans are introduced with the memories from the Shopkeep items. We still don't know much about them. I had a post summarising these memories, I'll edit with a link.

Ah. Probably just didn't connect the descriptions of the items, they just didn't seem to matter. Didn't really read them with my lore glasses on.

 

[TheShelly]

I was saying it COULD be worse. It makes sense; if you have a balloon filled with air, and something makes the air crash into the balloon aggressively, the more air there is the more chance there is for the balloon to burst. But I agree its not confirmed in the slightest.

As for supernatural lightning, there is nothing saying it is NOT lightning speed (as far as I know/remember, not to mention tiffany moves at the speed of light AT LEVEL 1, so it's not far-fetched for lightning to go at lightning speeds at level 3), and I doubt Met's lightning would go faster than actual lightning before the limit breaker stage.

Michael's and Met's fight literally has a moment where Michael tries to use the fact that his radiation beams are faster than Met's lightning because theyre made of photons aka light particles to blast him while Met's zapping around in his lightning-bolt form, and Met literally just speeds up to outpace the beams.

Met's Lightning is clearly moving at usual speed for lightning at the very minimum, and can be proven to move faster than light with a little effort.

 

[OnlineRando]

Michael's and Met's fight literally has a moment where Michael tries to use the fact that his radiation beams are faster than Met's lightning because theyre made of photons aka light particles to blast him while Met's zapping around in his lightning-bolt form, and Met literally just speeds up to outpace the beams.

Met's Lightning is clearly moving at usual speed for lightning at the very minimum, and can be proven to move faster than light with a little effort.

-Which makes MC even less likely to dodge his attacks. Though, I don't think that Met can move at light-speeds, for the simple fact that he isn't at level 4 yet, so there's that. It is possible that lightning speed (or whatever speed Met was moving at) is simply fast enough for him to evade Micheal's radiation even though it is faster, as you don't necessarily need to be faster than something to dodge it.

 

[TheShelly]

-Which makes MC even less likely to dodge his attacks. Though, I don't think that Met can move at light-speeds, for the simple fact that he isn't at level 4 yet, so there's that. It is possible that lightning speed (or whatever speed Met was moving at) is simply fast enough for him to evade Micheal's radiation even though it is faster, as you don't necessarily need to be faster than something to dodge it.

If I recall the writing right, it doesn't mention Met specifically trying to dodge the radiation beams. It just mentions that Met outpaces them. Could be wrong though. Even if Met cannot achieve total FTL speeds at lvl 3, he would atleast need to have light-speed reflexes. Hell, even Michael could be argued to have light-speed reaction times during his evolution trance, when he intercepts Tiffany, landing at hit on her at the very moment she dropped out of it to attack.

 

[OnlineRando]

If I recall the writing right, it doesn't mention Met specifically trying to dodge the radiation beams. It just mentions that Met outpaces them. Could be wrong though. Even if Met cannot achieve total FTL speeds at lvl 3, he would atleast need to have light-speed reflexes. Hell, even Michael could be argued to have light-speed reaction times during his evolution trance, when he intercepts Tiffany, landing at hit on her at the very moment she dropped out of it to attack.

Aim dodging is a thing, and you don't necessarily need to have reflexes of a certain caliber to dodge things of that caliber; for example, even in real life, people can sometimes dodge bullets, although no human moves fast enough to do so due to sheer speed, and nor is their reaction fast enough to do that consistently. By simply predicting the opponent, you can dodge things you would have no chance to otherwise. as for Met just moving faster than Michael's beams I just checked and can confirm that it says "the lightning begins to move even faster, so there's that. Maybe Met is actually beyond light speed, or maybe Michael's power isn't actually light speed, though i'd find it redundant to mention his beams being photons if that's so. Could just be a mistake on WW's part, but who knows.

 

[-Maniackanime-]

Aim dodging is a thing, and you don't necessarily need to have reflexes of a certain caliber to dodge things of that caliber; for example, even in real life, people can sometimes dodge bullets, although no human moves fast enough to do so due to sheer speed, and nor is their reaction fast enough to do that consistently. By simply predicting the opponent, you can dodge things you would have no chance to otherwise. as for Met just moving faster than Michael's beams I just checked and can confirm that it says "the lightning begins to move even faster, so there's that. Maybe Met is actually beyond light speed, or maybe Michael's power isn't actually light speed, though i'd find it redundant to mention his beams being photons if that's so. Could just be a mistake on WW's part, but who knows.

Everyone forgetting that MC's most win comes from strategic thinking that utilizes his versatility of his powers to its fullest to win fights and with his false memories, he now has another weapon in his arsenal.

Making him a slippery opponent that as a fight goes on, the bigger chance he can understand his enemies and win.

That's why I believe Met would defeat mc because he's the same, electricity is versatile (can use it can be used internally and externally, like that big ass energy strike) not as versatile compared to the mc but, is stronger cause he is a pure breed, unlike mc (pure breeds are just better in raw strength of their ability).

Though I believe electricity is just too much for mc right now and will definitely be utilized it, in instant big transformation, if he can control the chaotic reaction when he touches electricity in the future, as mc is the descendant of the 4th, he understands...

 

[Davner]

Everyone forgetting that MC's most win comes from strategic thinking that utilizes his versatility of his powers to its fullest to win fights and with his false memories, he now has another weapon in his arsenal.

Making him a slippery opponent that as a fight goes on, the bigger chance he can understand his enemies and win.

That's why I believe Met would defeat mc because he's the same, electricity is versatile (can use it can be used internally and externally, like that big ass energy strike) not as versatile compared to the mc but, is stronger cause he is a pure breed, unlike mc (pure breeds are just better in raw strength of their ability).

Though I believe electricity is just too much for mc right now and will definitely be utilized it, in instant big transformation, if he can control the chaotic reaction when he touches electricity in the future, as mc is the descendant of the 4th, he understands...

If he found a way to ground himself with his steel arms by stabbing into the ground then maybe he can counter it. Electricity takes the path of least resistance. Sure Met can shoot it to whatever target he wants, but when in contact in the MC's body it will go down. Potentially.

 

[OnlyUsedForNever]

I'm just at the party after MC gets exposed on the news and have a quick question:

I'm on Amber's romance route but Liz's friend route (i had sex with her all the time, just turned her down during her final event) and I didn't get the threesome at the party or even any non-sexual interaction with Amber or Liz.

I'm ok with missing out a sex scene or two (that's what the gallery's for) but out of curiosity does this lock me out of future Amber or Liz content entirely? Can I still do the Amber/Liz route if I'm only romancing one of them?

 

[TerminusPrime]

And MC has never shown to be able to shrug off even the weakest of electric attacks, nor was it shown to have changed since level one.

The MC absorbed the electricity from the taser during his final fight with Klaus and used it to power an evolution. Electricity is a strong weakness, but it's not guaranteed.