Snugglepuff

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I have. That part is largely unrelated to the rest of my comment.
Ok, now go back and re-read every post of mine on the recent subject of Power vs Skill, and then tell me where I said or indicated that skill was the only thing that matters, or even trumps power on its own... Be sure and read very carefully, because if I didn't specifically write that, then I never implied it.

But yeah, sure, I don’t really see how Oscar would’ve killed the MC, considering his regeneration is instinctive and doesn’t require training. So I guess you could count that as a win for the MC. At least against superhuman Oscar.
Instinctive, yes. Not unlimited though.
 
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Tahxeol

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Oscar, while still in his human body, managed to fatally wound, or maybe even kill, the red-eyed monster. Then he dies and transforms from damage, but it is what it is. If you would give him Michael-level prep on the fight and a lot of guns, I certainly bet on him.
Honestly, from what we know of him, just not being ambushed by a monster while he was distracted by his family might have been enough
 

hsuaisbsjsh

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If it's in relation to in-game religion/religious figures and their place in the story and setting then I'd argue it's on-topic. Not just because we've been talking about them recently... Or several times previously in the thread.
yeah but we were talking about the game too and multiple times before so it's just weird. it maybe because the admins didn't like us correcting someone lying
 

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I mean, even in the game MC with 0 skill (so 0 training too) gets killed by a couple of gun thugs at the restaurant if he tries to fight. He literally doesn’t know how to use his powers. Then he monstrifies from the damage and later gets burned alive by Malik, but whatever, just to complete the point.
Oscar, while still in his human body, managed to fatally wound, or maybe even kill, the red-eyed monster. Then he dies and transforms from damage, but it is what it is. If you would give him Michael-level prep on the fight and a lot of guns, I certainly bet on him.

Your own example doesn’t really work, I don’t know how else to say it. Sure, MC with 74 powers probably could have a very good chance against superhuman Oscar (who has only 12 Power and 4 Skills), but his strategy literally was "Look at the dude and punch the dude". And even then I doubt that MC without any transformation (again, 0 skill = 0 training) could easily kill him. His red light was just fine in stopping MC when he was running away with Danica even though MC might have been stronger stat-wise at that point. His light is Hax.

But yeah, sure, I don’t really see how Oscar would’ve killed the MC, considering his regeneration is instinctive and doesn’t require training. So I guess you could count that as a win for the MC. At least against superhuman Oscar.
Here, I think it falls more to the question of, what are the circumstances? Oscar was a monster, an aberration, and not because of his power, but because of his skill, I can't remember the exact number, but his skill as a human must have been between 60 or 70, an absurd amount, Michael and Alice are the only ones who might have more skill, but, until we know for sure, Oscar is basically the greatest or one of the most skilled

Oscar beat his monster without preparation? Yes, but we must remember that although it was a monster, it wasn't that powerful, considering Oscar's own abilities, dangerous but not powerful. Michael beat his monster, true, but two things to note, he had time to prepare, and even though he won, he would have died if it hadn't been for the 2nd Apostle

And being honest, level 1 mc could be killed by them or kill them, the odds are 50/50, because they have a lot of training, but without weapons and using only their hands, The mc would end up winning, either by his bone thorns or his poison, it would be basically this here:

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hsuaisbsjsh

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Here, I think it falls more to the question of, what are the circumstances? Oscar was a monster, an aberration, and not because of his power, but because of his skill, I can't remember the exact number, but his skill as a human must have been between 60 or 70, an absurd amount, Michael and Alice are the only ones who might have more skill, but, until we know for sure, Oscar is basically the greatest or one of the most skilled

Oscar beat his monster without preparation? Yes, but we must remember that although it was a monster, it wasn't that powerful, considering Oscar's own abilities, dangerous but not powerful. Michael beat his monster, true, but two things to note, he had time to prepare, and even though he won, he would have died if it hadn't been for the 2nd Apostle

And being honest, level 1 mc could be killed by them or kill them, the odds are 50/50, because they have a lot of training, but without weapons and using only their hands, The mc would end up winning, either by his bone thorns or his poison, it would be basically this here:

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if they are a human then a single hit will kill them or at least make them lose because of the poison plus only one of the positions in that tentacle can make someone paralyzed in seconds and he has a bunch mixed in and all of them are enhanced by his powers so those poisons are even more powerful. and that's not even considering he could put the poison on his bone things or make something under the floor that makes small slices on the humans body that injects the body with that poison which would mean mc could just use his bone tentacles for range while the enemy can't get close or just make a small cut on the humans body then force a tentacle into it and just pump the poison inside them while growing his tentacle to slowly make them expand and eventually blow up.
 
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