Juscaa

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So, I've been trying to assemble some theory about Ella's ritual, not sure if something similar to my ideas was already discussed here at some point, but fell free to point out.
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Honestly, reading this, I feel like you've cracked the case wide open. Surprised this post didn't get more attention. If it turns out to be true in a year just remember who was your first Apostle.
 

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Another update, another reaction post.

1) HOLY SHIT MALIK JUST CREATED A FUCKING SUN. Aint no way any of the chosen even touches the big three.
2) Alice was the obvious MVP this update but with us probably not seeing her or Micheal for some time in the future. Next time we see her and Micheal, they probably will be S class/rank 5.
3) Love that every character has a different evolution method. With Alice, now pretty much everyone in the group is evolving in a different way
4) Wtf was that Alice sex scene tho. Blood and Cannibalism straight up turned me off lol. First time I gotta give a sex scene a no.
5) Is this the first time we got a hentai like bad ending? Shit caught me off guard lol.
6) The Alice fight was great but I was distracted by the cheeks for most of it. Seeing Daoine, Aos and their family in the flashback was def the best part of the fight. No way I kill Daoine after that.
 

Juscaa

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On the 'Malik created a star' thing, dunno how to feel about that. Stars and rocky planets (which is what was depicted) are composed of almost entirely different elements and even then you'd need an extremely large planet to have enough mass to turn into a star. We can either read into it and infer that Malik may have some matter creation powers oooooor use the rule of cool and accept it.

I am only nitpicking because, for the most part, WW's physics make sense. The only other example I can think of of something he was quite off on was the mass numbers on big monster cards.
 

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On the 'Malik created a star' thing, dunno how to feel about that. Stars and rocky planets (which is what was depicted) are composed of almost entirely different elements and even then you'd need an extremely large planet to have enough mass to turn into a star. We can either read into it and infer that Malik may have some matter creation powers oooooor use the rule of cool and accept it.

I am only nitpicking because, for the most part, WW's physics make sense. The only other example I can think of of something he was quite off on was the mass numbers on big monster cards.
To be fair, he doesn't just generate heat, he spews out actual flames, meaning his fire is actually fueled and oxidized.

While we don't actually know what his flames' oxidizer or fuel is, I think it's pretty safe to assume it's just his monster power... but if his monster power has the properties necessary to sustain flames, that can theoretically substitute for the necessary materials... mainly being hydrogen.

Let's be harsh and assume his monster power has the properties of oxygen. The fuel isn't really relevant.
Assuming he can generate enough heat (though it'd take much more than what it would with hydrogen, so more than a regular star could output) and apply enough pressure to direct the oxidizer (being mp) towards the core, nuclear fusion should be possible.

Given that we see Berny compress his wind to supposedly Planck scale, which is a FAR more impressive feat, being impossible according to physics, I don't see why Malik wouldn't be able to create enough pressure on his power to do this. And all this, is assuming his power has the properties of oxygen, which is comparatively bad for this because of its weight. Realistically, his power should be better for this than even hydrogen.

Also, what's mass numbers on big monster cards?
 

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I don't think starting the fusion reaction is enough to create a star. You need enough mass for it to self-sustain. Either way, I'm not too bothered given that stuff like Bernhard's Planck pressure exists like you mentioned.
Re: mass number on big monster cards. I don't have them on hand but examples like Deryl's monster form being ~40 meters tall but only weighing ~5 tons. That's a ridiculously low number, off by several orders of magnitude. If we suppose he is the density of a human (~water) and shaped like cylinder 40 meters tall with a radius of 5m, then we'd expect him to weigh about 3000 tons.
 
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So, I've been trying to assemble some theory about Ella's ritual, not sure if something similar to my ideas was already discussed here at some point, but fell free to point out.
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My only issue with this is I remember the 7th's final goal is to snuff out all life and everything so while he is good for us now his end goal might be even worse.
 
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I don't think starting the fusion reaction is enough to create a star. You need enough mass for it to self-sustain. Either way, I'm not too bothered given that stuff like Bernhard's Planck pressure exists like you mentioned.
Re: mass number on big monster cards. I don't have them on hand but examples like Deryl's monster form being ~40 meters tall but only weighing ~5 tons. That's a ridiculously low number, off by several orders of magnitude. If we suppose he is the density of a human (~water) and shaped like cylinder 40 meters tall with a radius of 5m, then we'd expect him to weigh about 3000 tons.
Stars are mostly made of hydrogen, which, after nuclear fusion, is turned into helium, which will eventually turn into some other stuff. They also tend to have some other stuff, but they don't strictly require anything other than that. Hydrogen is specifically the best-known material for a star, because it has super low mass and a high energy output. If we substitute that with Malik's monster power, there really shouldn't be anything missing... except for proper hydrogen, but that doesn't really matter.

As for the Deryl thing, I rechecked and yeah this is a horrible ratio lol. He's 4245 cm tall, so 42 meters, and weighs 5009 kg, so 5 tons... if we calculate it like you did, with a radius of 5 meters, his density is slightly higher than that of literally air lmao. Air being 1.225 kg/m³ and Deryl Rebis form being 1.52 kg/m³. Bro is a thousand times less dense than a normal human, let alone a superhuman.
 
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So, I've been trying to assemble some theory about Ella's ritual, not sure if something similar to my ideas was already discussed here at some point, but fell free to point out.
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Agreed with the other comments, now I cant possibly imagine the plan being anything else, great write-up!

But I have to say... I don't know if I have it in me to put up with a whole nother game of Ella's bullshit... Personally, I don't care if every other subplot and character arc gets booted off to SH2, but I really hope there's some kind of satisfying conclusion to Ella's story in SH1.
 

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Bit of an odd question, but does anyone know the name of that mellow song that says something like "walking down the street and the people that I meet..."? It played a few times in the monster world and it's stuck in my head.
 
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