V2begone

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Hey guys, haven´t been following up with the discussion to avoid spoilers since it's been a while I've played, but I have a nagging question in my mind that I can't avoid spoiling myself with: Has the situation on Amber and Liz caused by Tanos been solved yet?
 

Krytax123

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I want to say I feel bad for Danu, and I chose to spare her for that reason, but I feel like letting my Mc say that was real reason he asked Alice to spare her would be a massive mistake. What happened to Danu was tragic, but even if Michael is alive, it doesn't justify her trying to murder Alice and anyone who tries to protect her in the first place, when Alice has done nothing to her. Ironically Danu trying to kill Alice for her potential to support Aos's plans, is a lot like the sky people, who sent her human children to their graves, because they wanted to crush her family for their political motives. It's unreasonable and unfair from Alice and the Mc's perspective just like what happened to Danu in the past, which is why I felt like my Mc needed a motive for his actions beyond the sympathy he may have felt for Danu. It's why I chose the real reason he chose to spare her to be because she is useful.
Hmm i chose to say that i did it for Aos and to not let him suffer further, but Aos was mysterios if he was pleased about it and tbh i dont even really know why i took that choice, i dont even like aos this much :ROFLMAO:

but i couldnt tell alice "Well there will be more content if we keep her alive" so what am i gonna do
 

KingAgamemnon

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Speaking of Alice, I have to gush about a minor thing, which is the level of variation they give you on deciding how to convince her to save Danu.

I'm glad WW is doubling down on Alice loving to kill people and not doing the more obvious and cliche thing of MC softening her and revealing what an innocent princess she really is. So I really like that if you try to appeal to her by saying that you think Danu was a good person and can be redeemed, she doesn't care and smashes her fucking head in.

BUT.

I also fucking love that if you speak her language and point out how useful Danu is, that later she asks you why you really asked her to spare her and you can admit that it was because you just thought it was wrong and said what she needed to hear.

There's maybe a handful of games on this site that offer such granular level of roleplaying (and rly im just saying that to cover my ass, i cant think of any) that connects me to these characters and the MC so so much more than usual, even if it doesn't change things in the long run, and I wish more games, even AAA games, adopted this approach.
You can do that, but it does cost you an Alice point if you say anything other than "I told you already, it's because she's useful."
 
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You can do that, but it does cost you an Alice point if you say anything other than "I told you already, it's because she's useful."
Yeah, like I said I'm glad WW is sticking to Alice liking murder, and tbh players are prob overflowing with points for any LIs at this point in the game so one point is def worth the chance to have this disagreement with her but be able to discuss it properly.

I don't even think the point system has been used for scenes in like aaaages. It just checks if you ARE dating or not.


but i couldnt tell alice "Well there will be more content if we keep her alive" so what am i gonna do
I mean you can tell her its because you thought she was hot. WW should have had her actually bite your dick off if you pick that tho
 

Triple OG

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I want to say I feel bad for Danu, and I chose to spare her for that reason, but I feel like letting my Mc say that was real reason he asked Alice to spare her would be a massive mistake.
Good man I applaud you for your heart of gold.
Myself I couldn't encourage Alice quick enough to send this lady to the shadow realm.
She won't be joining the harem and I feel like we did humanity a favor.
 

KingAgamemnon

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Yeah, like I said I'm glad WW is sticking to Alice liking murder, and tbh players are prob overflowing with points for any LIs at this point in the game so one point is def worth the chance to have this disagreement with her but be able to discuss it properly.

I don't even think the point system has been used for scenes in like aaaages. It just checks if you ARE dating or not.




I mean you can tell her its because you thought she was hot. WW should have had her actually bite your dick off if you pick that tho
I believe there was an Amber/Liz check not to long ago, but I could be mistaken on that front. And as we get closer to the end, I also suspect that those points will start mattering a lot more.

The real question here, is are we going to have to wait until the next game before we figure out whether Alice or Michael should've gone into the power boost chamber last update.
 

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Hey guys, haven´t been following up with the discussion to avoid spoilers since it's been a while I've played, but I have a nagging question in my mind that I can't avoid spoiling myself with: Has the situation on Amber and Liz caused by Tanos been solved yet?
How far back are you? I mean their alive, and well, uh, physically. Their also free and back in the MC's group.
 

BobCarter

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I believe there was an Amber/Liz check not to long ago, but I could be mistaken on that front. And as we get closer to the end, I also suspect that those points will start mattering a lot more.

The real question here, is are we going to have to wait until the next game before we figure out whether Alice or Michael should've gone into the power boost chamber last update.
I assume it'll pay off in the next 2-3 updates myself, even more so since meta-wise I can all but tell you decisions won't carry between games. I also don't know what he'll do for the next game, if you heard something (I don't watch the live streams or anything) let me know.

If I had to guess, if we boosted Micheal he'll save himself, and if we boosted Alice, she'll save him. Or at least the boosted one will win finishing off the big bad sky monster.

No clue what will happen if you didn't boost them at all.
 

V2begone

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How far back are you? I mean their alive, and well, uh, physically. Their also free and back in the MC's group.
I think the last build I played was 0.990, started from the beginning this time and haven't caught up yet
I know they're 'alive' but, yeah, that situation got my mind fucked up on my first playthrough
Also, Tanos' death has to be gruesome, with as much suffering as WW can come up with :)
 
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I assume it'll pay off in the next 2-3 updates myself, even more so since meta-wise I can all but tell you decisions won't carry between games. I also don't know what he'll do for the next game, if you heard something (I don't watch the live streams or anything) let me know.

If I had to guess, if we boosted Micheal he'll save himself, and if we boosted Alice, she'll save him. Or at least the boosted one will win finishing off the big bad sky monster.

No clue what will happen if you didn't boost them at all.
Firstly, you'd be surprised how easy it is to carry saves across games. You can easily do it and in many ways, a very simple one being literally making it so the saves are connected to the same directory, and that loading a first game save from the second game would just start the game (with the variables from the save). Preferably from a specific end screen, so variables won't be missing.

This method isn't particularly efficient, because there would inevitably be a lot of pointless variables, but in reality, it would just be the same as the first game in that regard. You can also just scan the save file for only the relevant variables, which removes that problem, but that could takemuch more effort, depending on the amount of variables you want to carry over.

Secondly, that is assuming the games will be separate. WW said in one of his streams that he isn't sure if he's going to make it a separate game, so he could just make it in the same game, in the end.
 
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When I started the update, I thought, "Just when I believed we were moving away from the monster world, this happens..." However, seeing AOS again was pleasing, and his personality was great. Learning that he was once human and that world have humans in the past was also very interesting. It's like a cycle where each world undergoes the same transformation, eventually leading to the extinction of humanity. What else can I say?

Regarding Alice, I really enjoyed her fight and her development as a monster. It's good to have variety in how characters can strengthen themselves, not just through levels of evolution. In such a chaotic universe, you can't expect perfection or kindness. A funny detail was during a conversation with another monster where we asked about our future, and she replied something like, "You are different, you will be..." only to glitch out and forget, similar to what happens in "Solo Leveling," as if something prevents her from revealing the truth. Haha.

As for Michael, I have two thoughts... Either that sky is another dimension where creatures are so powerful that everyone who goes there dies, or it might be portals to other worlds or dimensions, which is why no one returns. If it's the latter, Michael might be training right now. It would be exciting to think he encountered another spawn of the 2nd Apostle, one who would guide him and teach him to control and evolve his powers in the best way possible. These are just thoughts, though...

Concerning Ella, I've been thinking, "How does she seem to know everything all the time?" While it's understandable for monsters with centuries of life to be knowledgeable, Ella is the same age as the protagonist. How has she evolved so much in such a short time? She doesn't just have vast knowledge; she also possesses remarkable power and practical skills... Well, perhaps there's a hint somewhere about how she became this way. I can't forget the words of the Apostle of Truth, "Do not believe in the lies of the Third Chosen" but even so, I hope Ella has good intentions beyond her hunger for power.
 
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KingAgamemnon

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I assume it'll pay off in the next 2-3 updates myself, even more so since meta-wise I can all but tell you decisions won't carry between games. I also don't know what he'll do for the next game, if you heard something (I don't watch the live streams or anything) let me know.

If I had to guess, if we boosted Micheal he'll save himself, and if we boosted Alice, she'll save him. Or at least the boosted one will win finishing off the big bad sky monster.

No clue what will happen if you didn't boost them at all.
From what I've heard, the next game WW wants to work on is some sort of vampire game. But yeah, as OnlineRando mentioned, it is trivially easy to port variables across games, assuming it will be in a separate executable.
 
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