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I'm a few updates behind and haven't gotten to the content of this new update yet, but what do you mean by Amber somehow having a crush on Micheal? Is this something from the NTR route?
Maybe this happens if you don't romance her, but in my playthrough she never mentioned anything about having a crush on him. She does seem attached to him, more than basically anyone in the group bar Liz and MC, but there really isn't any implication for that sort of stuff beyond that.
 

Juan96

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That, and just working on improving his own biology in general. Stuff like making his muscles denser, able to contract faster, make the body better structured, remove dependencies like blood, food, and air, improving the material his cells are made of, and many, many more things.

Granted, it would be harder and take more time for him to do than it would for Ella, but I seriously doubt he's actually incapable of doing these things.

By understanding biology and practicing super minute transformations, he could not only change stuff like his organs, but also mix and match stuff to be more efficient and powerful, as well as invent stuff from scratch/via inspiration from these things.

This kind of power is literally the most developable kind of power IMO. MC just isn't really practicing it like that.
This plan by Bramon Xanthe is simply brilliant and very effective, it's a shame that the MC completely forgot to continue improving in this way.
 

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This plan by Bramon Xanthe is simply brilliant and very effective, it's a shame that the MC completely forgot to continue improving in this way.
As it's been said before, he already got a new heart and lungs, and Deryl seems to be the one checking out if there are compatible better organs from monsters, they may just not be that common to be compatible with his human form. I don't think Ella's way of modifying herself was the same also.
 

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Just finished the update, this is a perfect place to leave off for a long wait until 1.0 imo. The cliffhanger is very mild, because its just a chaotic situation instead of the beginning of a duel. The MC didn't get much in the way of trials, fighting, training, or evolving, (just events for draining power and one for regaining a bunch), so I don't feel like I'm particularly salivating for him to flex newfound abilities. Nothing we didn't already know is happening on Earth, and we haven't seen the perspectives of any of our friends there. Michael being pulled into the sky was a whole update ago and there's nothing you can do for him at this point so there's less tension there as well.

I'm perfectly fine waiting until, say, December, for the undoubtedly long task of redoing early art and adding more story to boot to be complete.
 
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Ella says that she's the only one who can tell compatibility with the core trait...and I think there is something to that because nobody else seems to think the MC is in a good place...even Aos suggested that because the MC had "emotional" evolutions(ie under high stress) he is damaged somehow. But I think Ella is onto something there. The big question is what the MC will eventually become...almost certainly not a monster and I think a serum evolution for 5th is off the table too. But we know almost nothing about natural 5th evolutions...only three have done it and they are vastly more powerful than any other superhumans including serum induced 5ths. Would the MC have to be chosen for a natural 5th evolution? He also has abilities from not just one but two apostles so how would his compatibility with patron even work since he's basically 50/50 split between the 3rd and 4th. Though the 3rd and 4th are brother and sister sooo...idk...maybe they don't mind? Do apostles even care about familiar links?
All twelve Apostles are Siblings though, with the next to them being their twin
 
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I'm a few updates behind and haven't gotten to the content of this new update yet, but what do you mean by Amber somehow having a crush on Micheal? Is this something from the NTR route?
That's just that person interpretation of Amber's affection for Michael by being(in her eyes) nothing but an excellent friend that even on Earth taked his time to training her and Liz
 

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That's what bugs me. What could Ella possibly know that apparently no other character has a clue of? And where does said knowledge even come from in the first place? It's certainly VERY obscure knowledge, otherwise characters like Aglaecwif would probably be aware of it. If the Eye is antagonistic and she knows about it, then surely her plan is for the MC to overcome it. But if that's the case, who the fuck told her that?

I know that I'm asking questions that only WW has the answers to, but I'm afraid we'll have to wait until the MC's 5th evolution to have an answer to this, and that both excites me and frustrates me a lot lol.
Aglaecwif may very well know, she is the oldest Chosen, and outright remember the Arbiters.

Plus, her Goal is mothering an Offspring "Strong enough to defy the Gods", saying that with the MC's help she might finally accomplish that, and remember, Glae only see the Outer Twins(that by all we know, are above the Apostles in power) as true Gods, she thinking that hers and MC's child could result on something of such power, would only make sense if she is aware that something aberrant exist on his nature
 
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Haha, worried about blood? Seriously? After all the blood he's spilled before, he would be worried about this? I am personally disappointed that the developer thinks that this is something disgusting; it's perfectly natural, and I don't see any problems with defloration scenes that include some blood. He could at least make two variations of this scene, and for those who are afraid of virgin blood or painful reaction when the hymen is torn, create a scene without blood and with blood for people like me. Unfortunately, he is just like the majority of other developers who are afraid of this specific detail, which might occur during defloration. What a shame.
 

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Haha, worried about blood? Seriously? After all the blood he's spilled before, he would be worried about this? I am personally disappointed that the developer thinks that this is something disgusting; it's perfectly natural, and I don't see any problems with defloration scenes that include some blood. He could at least make two variations of this scene, and for those who are afraid of virgin blood or painful reaction when the hymen is torn, create a scene without blood and with blood for people like me. Unfortunately, he is just like the majority of other developers who are afraid of this specific detail, which might occur during defloration. What a shame.
Man, if you think WW has a problem with blood during lewd scenes, you should see one of the latest Alice scenes :KEK:
 

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Man, if you think WW has a problem with blood during lewd scenes, you should see one of the latest Alice scenes :KEK:
Haha! This even more hilarious! He's not afraid of showing blood during h-scenes with not virgins but afraid of showing blood during scene with an actual virgin :LOL:
 

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Okay so wild theory but is the reason Alice's mutated transformation of being able to switch between her monster form and human form a result of her mindset and mentality during the fight?

Most of the time, when a superhuman evolves into their next stage, don't they often have the mindset of surviving the evolution or simply wanting to become stronger. Alice on the other hand, her focus was also on both but with the major addition and prime focus of finding Michael. Her finding Michael is basically her human tether and goal as to why she needed to evolve. To prove they can be on the same level and win as well as to get her best friend back. If she evolves into a monster. she would lose her mind and potentially lose her goal of finding michael and she won't allow that. However, she has to get stronger in the fight in the moment in order to defeat her opponent. I assume this mindset is what caused her mutation in the first place.

I can't remember where it was said, but I do recall Ella saying in the earlier game something about what a person trains ability wise influences their evolution. Like how Deacon and Ella share the same god but have completely different skillsets since they learned and trained in other aspects.

What i'm trying to say is, Alice's biology is saying that she needs to be both monster and human, in order to find Michael hence causing the mutation? Some mind over matter shit cause of it.

I'm pretty sure somewhere along superhuman 2, that there will be a decision or values that determine if Alice keeps more of her humanity or be fully more monstrous.

Though this is mostly from a narrative pov not a bioglocial one since every mutation is unique and different.
 

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Okay so wild theory but is the reason Alice's mutated transformation of being able to switch between her monster form and human form a result of her mindset and mentality during the fight?

Most of the time, when a superhuman evolves into their next stage, don't they often have the mindset of surviving the evolution or simply wanting to become stronger. Alice on the other hand, her focus was also on both but with the major addition and prime focus of finding Michael. Her finding Michael is basically her human tether and goal as to why she needed to evolve. To prove they can be on the same level and win as well as to get her best friend back. If she evolves into a monster. she would lose her mind and potentially lose her goal of finding michael and she won't allow that. However, she has to get stronger in the fight in the moment in order to defeat her opponent. I assume this mindset is what caused her mutation in the first place.

I can't remember where it was said, but I do recall Ella saying in the earlier game something about what a person trains ability wise influences their evolution. Like how Deacon and Ella share the same god but have completely different skillsets since they learned and trained in other aspects.

What i'm trying to say is, Alice's biology is saying that she needs to be both monster and human, in order to find Michael hence causing the mutation? Some mind over matter shit cause of it.

I'm pretty sure somewhere along superhuman 2, that there will be a decision or values that determine if Alice keeps more of her humanity or be fully more monstrous.

Though this is mostly from a narrative pov not a bioglocial one since every mutation is unique and different.
Hey is not MC's mother the same as Alice? Both of them can switch between monster and human form at will. Don't know why his mother thinks herself only as a human but maybe we will get that info from the memory monster.
 

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It's a bit unclear if the MC's mother was turned back into a human or if she just could hide her true form, we only saw her full monster form in the dream world after all so it might just have been the memory of what she was before.
 

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Hey is not MC's mother the same as Alice? Both of them can switch between monster and human form at will. Don't know why his mother thinks herself only as a human but maybe we will get that info from the memory monster.
I think the level of monsterfiction beetwen Alice and Sylla is very different.
Alice's monster taint is probably very inferior to Sylla's , who became a monster as a direct chosen of a Apostle, totaly different, likely a much more drastic, permanent, and major transformation than Alice's.

Which is why Sylla likely was only able to temporarily alter her appearance ( and conceive a child with a human ) due to Tano's extensive help, research and experiments.
 
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Hey is not MC's mother the same as Alice? Both of them can switch between monster and human form at will. Don't know why his mother thinks herself only as a human but maybe we will get that info from the memory monster.
I don't think Syla literally thinks she's only a human. From how she talks, it seems more like it's a point of defiance for her. The Apostles might have mutated her body, but she's still a human and that's all she ever has been, because the opinion of a bunch of tyrannical gods doesn't get to define her. Syla's a bimbo, but we know that she was also at the heart of the rebellion against the Apostles. I think she would have picked up how to politicize her identity.
 

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But what restraint tho ? lmao you talk as if Alice suddently became a feral monster and couldn't hold it it dude, but she and the Mc just had a little banter pre sex and she bit him as a kink thing. You're exagerating.

Saying Eisheth has more restraint just because Alice ate the Mcs flesh as kink play is such a crazy exageration. These people are leagues above humanity, Mc can have 90% of his body destroyed and still regenerate, if you walk among the stalls the Mc literally rips his arm off and offers it to a meat vendor as payment like it's normal grocery shopping, to the Mc a few bites is the equivalent of a hicky to us. So don't compare Alice to Eisheth lmao c'mon now.
Eisheth is the biggest hedonistic, pleasure seeking demonette and her reputation widespread, there is no comparison. Eisheth indulges in orgies, intercourse with any monster, and consumes humans and twins in particular just for pleasure.

And I get that people have different tastes, nothing wrong with it, but it also has to be said that in a game with as many sex scenes as this one it is expected to delve into kinks which aren't for everyone.

Personaly I fear that when enough people complain about one kink being introduced the author would feel pushed into making sex scenes that are tame just to please everyone. He shouldn't. That's my two cents on the matter.

People whinning about how put off they were and wishing it weren't there should really just learn to go with the flow.
Not really dude she is pretty much a feral to me lol your opinion isn't gonna change that for me .idk why you are getting offended over it too I just said I don't like it lol. That's all even your Esiheth point still doesn't work she again showed more restraint when she was with Mc that was point.I don't care how above human they are or how much flesh mc can regenerate that isn't the point.It is gross and will be gross for me you can enjoy it and that is fine. I can't it is that simple.
 
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