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I think there must be at least some of Michael's supernatural energy mixed in with his attacks, because his radiation is the wrong color. Ionizing radiation is itself invisible, but as it passes through the air and ionizes it, it produces a blue glow. Instead, Michael's beams are red. And I don't think it's just artistic license on Weirdworld's part, because the same effect happens with Michael absorbing electricity. Lightning attacks go into him blue, come out red. Some portion of Michael's red supernatural energy is carried along with his attacks, dying it his color.
Seems to be something that happens to all superhumans. Everyone seems to get coloring to their abilities.
 
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Whatever you think they are, is what they'll appear as in sex scenes. It also affects the sex of a monster that's the same species as the one that turned them too, later down the line. Except for one, in which Demi's sex is always female for some reason. Not sure if that's gameplay and story segregation or integration though, considering the nature of Demi's powers.
Thanks, but could you be a bit more specific? For example, if Demi is male, will there be same-sex romance, or will the protagonist’s gender change for the scene? Or will we get to choose? The same question applies if Demi is female. I’m currently using a walkthrough and noticed the Demi gender choice later in the game.
 

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Thanks, but could you be a bit more specific? For example, if Demi is male, will there be same-sex romance, or will the protagonist’s gender change for the scene? Or will we get to choose? The same question applies if Demi is female. I’m currently using a walkthrough and noticed the Demi gender choice later in the game.
No, in no Demi scenes does the protagonist change his gender. So, same sex romance ( though even that is kinda false, since Demi's genitals, along with their entire appearance is just an illusion that stems from a passive manifestation of their powers ).
 
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I know pretty much everyone here hate Jack, but what would his next evolutions have added to his powerset (I don't believe his mental would allow him to evolve again)?

Outside of raw power, I don't see any more application of raw authority than brainwashing, giving orders, forcing commands on somone

A few months ago I read a reply here answering this... If the 3rd Evolution is supposedly the "Strengthening stage", I could see the following happening:

  • His passive protection would be stronger and easier to maintain, maybe it could start to affect the concept itself of going against him rather than protect him from people actively trying to harm him (ej: Xanthe randomly deciding that pursuing Jake is counterproductive regardless of distance to him or awareness).
  • Verbal commands could work regardless of being heard by the target, only intent itself would matter. If Jake said "The president of Sector B will resign" said person would be compelled to resign, even if Jake doesn't know specifically who he is nor has a clear picture on his head.
  • More psychic commands and the ability to aim them at multiple targets simultaneously.

And finally, what the comment itself proposed: Some sort of reality manipulation similar to Eisheth, but rather than enforcing concepts as "truth" (rocks suddenly flying, not being killed regardless of body damage, "the floor is monster-world"...) he could enforce his Authority on the preexisting material stuff AND further into living beings. My personal guess would be something like: Guns not firing regardless of trigger press, blades not cutting regardless of sharpness, powers not working on a subconscious level or only by actively opposing him in his sphere of influence... He wouldn't be able to make the guns and blades disappear or turn you into a human outright, but if something works in some way or has a function, he could disrupt it to his wishes.
 
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I don't remember who was properly in charge of the wiki but I found a discrepancy in case someone more versed on that can fix it:


On the 12th Apostle page < >, it says: (...) known as . The 12th created it using traits from the and .

However, if one visits the Udug page < > it says the lineage is:
(35%)
(35%)
(30%)


My best guess it's either a mouseslip from 2 to 3, or it lacks a proper source that says it comes from the 3rd apostle.
 

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I don't remember who was properly in charge of the wiki but I found a discrepancy in case someone more versed on that can fix it:


On the 12th Apostle page < >, it says: (...) known as . The 12th created it using traits from the and .

However, if one visits the Udug page < > it says the lineage is:
(35%)
(35%)
(30%)


My best guess it's either a mouseslip from 2 to 3, or it lacks a proper source that says it comes from the 3rd apostle.
itzsyther is the one who controls the wiki I think
 
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I have come to the realization that the power/skill/money micro that the next update may ask of us is kinda insane. I've been looking through and there's a chain of cause and effect going all the way back to the S.I.N. tournament, assuming you've made good choices up until then.

I've been trying to see if i can get the raffle ticket on a skill/min corruption playthrough, and i think you need to go drop out of the tournament, buy the 10 power bone and the soda and neither of the skill bones, but even this doesn't take into account anything that happens after the fact.
 

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I don't remember who was properly in charge of the wiki but I found a discrepancy in case someone more versed on that can fix it:


On the 12th Apostle page < >, it says: (...) known as . The 12th created it using traits from the and .

However, if one visits the Udug page < > it says the lineage is:
(35%)
(35%)
(30%)


My best guess it's either a mouseslip from 2 to 3, or it lacks a proper source that says it comes from the 3rd apostle.
I'll thank you on behalf but I'd also like to remind you and everyone else who'll see this post that the wiki can be edited by anyone who has an account so once you find a very obvious error you can simply correct it right away
 

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I don't remember who was properly in charge of the wiki but I found a discrepancy in case someone more versed on that can fix it:


On the 12th Apostle page < >, it says: (...) known as . The 12th created it using traits from the and .

However, if one visits the Udug page < > it says the lineage is:
(35%)
(35%)
(30%)


My best guess it's either a mouseslip from 2 to 3, or it lacks a proper source that says it comes from the 3rd apostle.
Thanks for the heads up my man.

I fixed it.
 
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I have come to the realization that the power/skill/money micro that the next update may ask of us is kinda insane. I've been looking through and there's a chain of cause and effect going all the way back to the S.I.N. tournament, assuming you've made good choices up until then.

I've been trying to see if i can get the raffle ticket on a skill/min corruption playthrough, and i think you need to go drop out of the tournament, buy the 10 power bone and the soda and neither of the skill bones, but even this doesn't take into account anything that happens after the fact.
Yeah, it's tight. You can do it on a min corruption playthrough, but you'll wind up with near nothing afterward. $1000 for winning Alice's poker game back during the Mafia arc, another $1000 for hunting the Gorgon successfully, $2000 for fighting the Asura with Nico, and then $49000 for dropping out of the tournament and not getting caught. $53000 is enough to get you both the Skill bones, Vortex Stone, Raffle Ticket, and then you'll be completely wiped out. Or go for the Power bones instead and have $3000 left over. The soda isn't necessary, if you didn't get caught infiltrating Langdon's office and picked Power for what you want from Tiffany, you'll have enough to pass the check it helps you with.

I wonder what the purchases the MC might have to make later on will be, though. Shopkeep offering to trade Power for money suggests that there will be things he needs to buy, but I don't know what. All the really useful stuff comes from Shopkeep anyway, everything else you can spend money on is things like a few relationship points in Amber or Emily's routes. Maybe we'll have to bribe someone or something like that, I don't know. But if money is to be valuable again, taking Shopkeep's conversion offer might be worth it over going for Skill gain or Corruption reduction. I dropped a save at the shop just in case.

EDIT: Actually, come to think about it, the Vortex Stone really isn't that useful if you didn't buy the Spine as well, so if you're going for the Power bones instead of Skill bones you can skip it, giving you an extra $15000. That's not a bad amount to have going into the next update, $18000.
 
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The soda isn't necessary, if you didn't get caught infiltrating Langdon's office and picked Power for what you want from Tiffany, you'll have enough to pass the check it helps you with.
All hail the +1 Tiffany point.

I wonder what the purchases the MC might have to make later on will be, though. Shopkeep offering to trade Power for money suggests that there will be things he needs to buy, but I don't know what. All the really useful stuff comes from Shopkeep anyway, everything else you can spend money on is things like a few relationship points in Amber or Emily's routes. Maybe we'll have to bribe someone or something like that, I don't know. But if money is to be valuable again, taking Shopkeep's conversion offer might be worth it over going for Skill gain or Corruption reduction. I dropped a save at the shop just in case.
The last Skill check was with Cole, where it was 40 points. In my previous unoptimized playthrough, I hit 62 points after paying for the skill heart. The actual value I had when the ColeWin check happened was 47, So I suspect the next threshold will be around 55 skill. We'll see how it is when the next update hits.

I'm actually concerned about the existence corruption reduction heart. I think there may be a reality where a min corruption playthrough actually requires gaining corruption early on to take advantage of power gains, then reducing it to zero later on. Cause I figured the power boosting machine that you can give to Michael or Alice was meant to deal with those few who got one corruption point to consume Bailey while not being on a true "evil" playthrough, but the presence of a second corruption reduction is surprising.

As for power, my unoptimized Skill playthrough ends the update with 833 power. I did take a lot of power sacrifices, so there's a possibility that the power check here is 850. There's a lot of things to micromanage these last couple arcs.
 
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All hail the +1 Tiffany point.


The last Skill check was with Cole, where it was 40 points. In my previous unoptimized playthrough, I hit 62 points after paying for the skill heart. The actual value I had when the ColeWin check happened was 47, So I suspect the next threshold will be around 55 skill. We'll see how it is when the next update hits.

I'm actually concerned about the existence corruption reduction heart. I think there may be a reality where a min corruption playthrough actually requires gaining corruption early on to take advantage of power gains, then reducing it to zero later on. Cause I figured the power boosting machine that you can give to Michael or Alice was meant to deal with those few who got one corruption point to consume Bailey while not being on a true "evil" playthrough, but the presence of a second corruption reduction is surprising.

As for power, my unoptimized Skill playthrough ends the update with 833 power. I did take a lot of power sacrifices, so there's a possibility that the power check here is 850. There's a lot of things to micromanage these last couple arcs.
Yeah, I'm also at 62 Skill after buying the Skill heart. Unless there's an opportunity to gain more Skill soon, 55 sounds reasonable for the next check. Enough that you won't need to have gotten every Skill point possible, but you will have to have gotten most.

I think the Corruption-changing hearts are just for people who want to diverge their path, not for min-maxing. It costs 20 Power to reduce Corruption by 20, and there aren't any Corruption-gaining options that give more Power than they do Corruption. There also aren't even 20 Power points to get by taking Corruption actions, so you'd actually lose Power total. I guess it could be that the actions unlocked by high Corruption are themselves important, like eating Kenny. The Eye did tell us to eat everyone we can.

I think it's possible to get around 930 Power if you optimize for it and don't spend any in the latest update. With how Shopkeep was hinting we'd need all the Power we could get, that might be the requirement for the check. I hope not, I spent 60 Power total in this update. Oh well, that's what saves are for.
 

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Yeah, I'm also at 62 Skill after buying the Skill heart. Unless there's an opportunity to gain more Skill soon, 55 sounds reasonable for the next check. Enough that you won't need to have gotten every Skill point possible, but you will have to have gotten most.

I think the Corruption-changing hearts are just for people who want to diverge their path, not for min-maxing. It costs 20 Power to reduce Corruption by 20, and there aren't any Corruption-gaining options that give more Power than they do Corruption. There also aren't even 20 Power points to get by taking Corruption actions, so you'd actually lose Power total. I guess it could be that the actions unlocked by high Corruption are themselves important, like eating Kenny. The Eye did tell us to eat everyone we can.

I think it's possible to get around 930 Power if you optimize for it and don't spend any in the latest update. With how Shopkeep was hinting we'd need all the Power we could get, that might be the requirement for the check. I hope not, I spent 60 Power total in this update. Oh well, that's what saves are for.
I can believe that the corruption increasing/reducing hearts are just for path switching. The money heart feels like bait, but the fact that our money count gets so low, especially considering all of the ways to pay for things in recent updates, spooks me a bit. I think the optimal playthrough will require the skill heart, it's just going to come down to what optimization choices need to be made. The delay choice on the hearts is also suspicious. I think the next arc is going to have a series of skill/power/corruption checks, rather than just one fight. I am eager to see how things develop. Hopefully next update isn't too long of a wait.
 
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