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I think the MC would've Won the Evander Devana Fight no sweat. The only reason he didn't is because of Shen, who's Level 4. The way the MC is portrayed in a Fight, and the Body Trait itself, at least, in his hands, is very Spongy. Sure, it may seem like he took a big hit or that he's basically a punching bag, and in some sense, he is. But that's just it, Valravn describes it best; it's disheartening to see your foe suffer a blow the same as you in a Fight, but then get right back up, completely renewed. Body is a Power I EXPECT to get tossed around with the way it's portrayed, but I also know it's gonna either Outlast the entirety of a Fight even if it's slightly outclassed, or it's gonna fall without contest to a clearly overly stronger opponent.

Devana didn't even stand a chance. She created Monsters and shit, big deal, she was practically MIA half the Fight because her Durability couldn't keep up with our Pounding. Evander on the other hand, well, he was putting up a good fight. I don't think it would've been enough to actually win, but his Power being Destruction, is literally a direct counter to the Body Trait.

Anyways, I remember a lot of people whining about that Fight when it came out. I don't really understand why though, if the MC Fighting TWO Level 3s wasn't enough, Shen was also there. He wasn't even really struggling, just trying to figure out the best way to win whilst protecting the Twins before Shen surprised him. If it was two Level 2s, THEN I would've been mad at the struggle, but it wasn't, so I think the Fight was fine. Disheartening that we had to lose mind you, but fine from a Narrative/Power Scaling Standpoint I guess.
 

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Also WW did just recently clarify on MC's lack of healing, so that might be a hint.
That's what I took it as. WW might have been sick of "why didn't mc heal x" questions but it's likelier he has plot points in mind that don't work unless healing got a nerf
 
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For me, it's the specific comment that the twins were holding back because they were ordered to capture the MC. No they weren't. Shen only ordered them to capture him at the very last moment. Up to that, they were doing their best to kill him, and that just wasn't a very well-done attempt. Like, I can believe that they weren't using their full potential, but that's because they didn't think to, not because they didn't want to. They didn't have good tactics, or much ability to react to plans going wrong.
Holding back in terms of using their full power in the fight maybe, but certainly not in the general sense as you said. They were superhumans, what, a month? They had fuck all skill and control over their powers, both of them, and certainly almost none of the aces in the sleeves or specific techniques someone cornered and/or pushed to the wall with their power's development to get creative to progress in any way, just some blueprints from daddy Rebis and nothing more. They got power, and more power, and more power just for existing, this is no environment for personal growth or honing one's skill, or learning to think at all.

As a funny note to that, Devana's comment about dropping nuke on the forest is so hilarious, she conjured up a plate of steel to cover herself from MC's tail, and it still almost skewered her to death; if she'd drop an actual nuke there most likely she would fry her own stupid fucking ass in the blast more than accomplishing anything else.
 
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He's totally gonna fucking die the next time we see him. You'd have to be blind to miss all of those death flags.
I hope it doesn't happen, but it's quite possible, MC didn't even bother to heal his arm, eye, and baldness, it could be used to trigger his evolution, with reactions depending on their chosen relationship.
God I hope not. The Mc already has a fuckton of wrongs to get payback from people for.

1. Get revenge for Sylla's death.
2. Get some payback from that bitch Jared.
3. Get revenge from Cole ( or rather, more than he already did ).
4. Get revenge from Evander and Devana for kicking our ass in the forrest.
5. Get revenge from Shen for kicking out ass in the forrest.
6. Get revenge from Tanos for mutilating and torturing his girlfriends.
7. Get revenge from Dietz for kidnapping Alice and Michael and threatening to torture and gangrape her.

8. Maybe also get some payback from Zara, since she was the cause for them being stuck in the Monster World for so long.

If Stephen dies at the hands of someone that will just be yet another one in the bucket list.
MC's blacklist filled with whinny brats and world genociding gods.
1. Do remember that there is quite a few Indra hating Asuras waiting to be released from their chains, and the 7th planning the death of monsterkind, so it could end in a pretty epic battle.
2. Yeah.
3.
I kind of want to reconcile and befriend Cole, but like after we kick his ass just a little bit more. Like fully establish his place in the pecking order. Then be friends.
best i can do is give him the escachad
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As of right now, I'm in a mix of both. Cole's whole character seems to be a walking horny inferiority complex whose only goal is to get his dick wet with a woman that has clearly stated having absolutely no interest in him, other than being her litlle brother. Hating him is just wasting time and energy, just beat him up if he throws another tantrum, kill him if he insists in getting the MC killed, and ignore him until he moves on. I mean, he is not even good at what he does, a decade being a superhuman and he doesn't even have 15 skill, he is a spammin button masher. The MC catched up in less than a year with about 2/3 of his power and 4 times his skill, he would have lost had he not evolved.
4-5. These would be more rematches than revenge, I believe, it would still be fun to beat the shit out of them, but since they are twin Apostle spawn backed up by Tanos, its not going to happen in the near future.
6. Shame that he is so useful, and that Stephen vouches for his good intentions.
7. This is Alice's business, she will most likely kill him in a painfull way.
8. She's got enough having Cole as a crush.

Remember that Indra is still around, he could be the one who kills Stephen.

Guys, if I remember correctly, the MC and his mom's weakness to electricity is due to trauma. But if they have memory powers, why can't they just forget, erase, or destroy the memory of the trauma?
Personal anwers:
1. Syla doesn't want to forget her parents. MC can't remove it yet as it's genetical.
2. Dumdum.
 

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If it was a fight I guess mc would have beaten atleast one of them ,bcoz mc is not some average level 3 he is one of the most powerful of level 3 ,he defeated valraven when he was level 2 I don't think anyone is beating valraven at level 2 ,not even ella could have beaten raven at level 2 ,this clearly shows and mc's growth that he would actually beaten atleast one of the twin and in infiltration of sin if he fought like himself and used his power he would have defeated evana
You're speaking as if the Moon twins are just some average level 3 and not also some of the most powerful level 3 too lmao. Also you got any source of Ella not being able to beat Val at lvl 2?
 

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You're speaking as if the Moon twins are just some average level 3 and not also some of the most powerful level 3 too lmao. Also you got any source of Ella not being able to beat Val at lvl 2?
Nope ,purely just random thoughts no source
And yeah they are twins not some average level 3 but the mc could have defeated evana on both occasion without the interference of other and he smashed evanader by a tree a couple time ,evana was already spitting blood and the fight was not even that long
 
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I think the MC would've Won the Evander Devana Fight no sweat. The only reason he didn't is because of Shen, who's Level 4. The way the MC is portrayed in a Fight, and the Body Trait itself, at least, in his hands, is very Spongy. Sure, it may seem like he took a big hit or that he's basically a punching bag, and in some sense, he is. But that's just it, Valravn describes it best; it's disheartening to see your foe suffer a blow the same as you in a Fight, but then get right back up, completely renewed. Body is a Power I EXPECT to get tossed around with the way it's portrayed, but I also know it's gonna either Outlast the entirety of a Fight even if it's slightly outclassed, or it's gonna fall without contest to a clearly overly stronger opponent.

Devana didn't even stand a chance. She created Monsters and shit, big deal, she was practically MIA half the Fight because her Durability couldn't keep up with our Pounding. Evander on the other hand, well, he was putting up a good fight. I don't think it would've been enough to actually win, but his Power being Destruction, is literally a direct counter to the Body Trait.

Anyways, I remember a lot of people whining about that Fight when it came out. I don't really understand why though, if the MC Fighting TWO Level 3s wasn't enough, Shen was also there. He wasn't even really struggling, just trying to figure out the best way to win whilst protecting the Twins before Shen surprised him. If it was two Level 2s, THEN I would've been mad at the struggle, but it wasn't, so I think the Fight was fine. Disheartening that we had to lose mind you, but fine from a Narrative/Power Scaling Standpoint I guess.
Funny you talked like Shen is such a big help to the Moon twins, when in reality it's Shen's fuck up that made them lower their guards and got Devana skewed in the first place(the only damage MC ever inflicted on the Moon twin btw). Also Val and Evander are not remotely comparable. Val relies on precise slash attacks on MC's weak points while Evander doesn't need all that because one single strike from him erases 90% of MC's body; he is so efficient at erasing MC's mass that he's basically the worst match-up for MC's "trading blow" tactics to the point that MC outright admitted that he can't afford to trade blows with Evander, not to mention it's a 2 vs 1 so fat chance he's out lasting the twin.

Even without Syla's comment about the twin(which is basically WW telling some of you to get off MC's dick btw), we saw numerous evidence of the Moon Twins not using their true power from the fight. For example, Devana only ever used fodder summons against MC when she had far stronger sommons like Cerbius and neclear weapons, Evander not using a single named attack on MC unlike when he went all out against Met, and the twin not using their shared power pool in the fight which is one of the biggest weapons of a twin SH, etc.

It's crazy how on this date, when we are repeatedly shown evidence and statements that the Moon twins were just using a fraction of their true power in their fights and shouldn't be underestimated, people still keep choking on that thang and think MC can 1 v 2 them "no sweat" lmao.
 
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Nope ,purely just random thoughts no source
And yeah they are twins not some average level 3 but the mc could have defeated evana on both occasion without the interference of other and he smashed evanader by a tree a couple time ,evana was already spitting blood and the fight was not even that long
Without interference MC wouldn't even have the chance to sneak shot Devana lmao.
 

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and the twin not using their shared power pool in the fight which is one of the biggest weapons of a twin SH
Correct me if I'm wrong, but their shared power pool is always active when they're near each other, no? At least, that's the impression I got. The only way I can see them losing to anything below a level 5 is if they're in separate locations.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but their shared power pool is always active when they're near each other, no? At least, that's the impression I got. The only way I can see them losing to anything below a level 5 is if they're in separate locations.
I think given the nature of the MC it can make people think power supply would be a much bigger deal for many fights when it reality, most fights are probably over a lot quicker. Power supply is such a big deal for the MC because its basically his defence more so than almost any other Superhuman, Klaud, Deryl, Jake, Alexis and so many others to greater or lesser degree's have some defence they can throw up, but for most Superhuman's being ripped in half or having your head blown off probably death, you need to drain Ella and the MC dry.

I could see a level 3 Cole effortlessly killing the sister and maybe even the brother depending on how his defence works.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but their shared power pool is always active when they're near each other, no? At least, that's the impression I got. The only way I can see them losing to anything below a level 5 is if they're in separate locations.
No, it is sth they have to actively dip into. Remember Evander's talk with Met where he hinted that it was not even his full power? It's referring to the shared power pool ability, which allows Evander to dip into his sister's power to conjure an attack that is far stronger than what he can pull off by himself. Same goes for Devana. The shared power pool basically allows them to borrow their sibiling's power to utilize techniques that are far above their weight class.
 
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Got a new monster profile, wonder if this guy is part of Elle's comeback plan.

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I was going to mention how this guy being in Aos (and soon to be Alice's) army and the possibilities that brings, but then I started thinking about "Ella's comeback plan".

In the (diary?) letter she wrote just before the battle of the diamond she specifically wanted Nyx to kill her. Nyx has stated that whenever she kills or mark someone using her powers a piece of their soul gets put in her lake/river.
I wonder if doll Ella contains a small piece of her soul that the Drekavac or even doll Ella herself can somehow put back into her own body and resurrect. Doll Ella having a soul could also explain why she can use her powers and somehow regenerate energy even if by her own explanation she should just have a set stored amount of it. Maybe this is also why MC can't read doll Ella's mind, like with Jake failing to command clone Deryl?

Now as for if this particular Drekavac is part of her plan: I doubt it. It was just one of many monsters trying to get to Earth, got dunked in the ocean and despite it's immortality swore an oath of slavery to Aos for being saved. I doubt Ella could have planned that very convenient course of event.
Really makes the monster world ocean a lot more scary when you think about it.
 
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